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May 29, 2010 at 10:49 AM #557645May 29, 2010 at 7:31 PM #557728HobieParticipant
[quote=SK in CV]Insightful comment.
Specially this part.
[quote=deriving drunk]
In my experience, most dog attacks occur on their home turf, be it their home or immediate surrounds, ie they are defending in a territorial manner. Occasionally packs will feed off each other’s energy, etc. Is it a real risk? Sure, but extremely uncommon.[/quote]
I’ll expand that a bit to include the event the OP described where a dog on lead was involved with a dog off lead and violence erupted. Dog behaviorists use the term barrier agression. Dogs will often display agression on one side of a fence towards a percieved threat on the opposite side of the fence. But home territory is only a piece of that puzzle. Same thing can occur when one is on lead and one isn’t. (Or two on lead, for that matter.) The one on lead has greater exposure to threats, and is much more likely to display agression. In most cases, it has nothing to do with obedience, it’s temperment. Which makes it extraordinarily risky walking a dog on lead through a dog park with dogs off lead, even with a well trained dog. (I know all hell would break loose if I tried that with my main dog.) A few dozen dogs off lead are unlikely to fight. (not never, just unlikely)[/quote]
100% right on the mark.
Threadjack; Years ago I took my pound puppy lab mix to Dog Beach in OB for the first time. He was ecstatic! Couldn’t stop running!
But there was an, “El Cajoner” any old timers here will recall that is what locals called folks from El Cajon who frequented the beach wearing cutoff jeans, no tan, etc., passed out on the beach. Complete with a 12pack next to him smack dab in the middle of dog beach. Well my dog ran over, sniffed and promptly pissed on him!! The dude exploded in rage and was ready to kick the owners ass. I was a football field away and pretended to not notice all the while laughing my head off.
Yes I did wimp out but sometimes … well I guess you should have been there.
May 29, 2010 at 7:31 PM #557627HobieParticipant[quote=SK in CV]Insightful comment.
Specially this part.
[quote=deriving drunk]
In my experience, most dog attacks occur on their home turf, be it their home or immediate surrounds, ie they are defending in a territorial manner. Occasionally packs will feed off each other’s energy, etc. Is it a real risk? Sure, but extremely uncommon.[/quote]
I’ll expand that a bit to include the event the OP described where a dog on lead was involved with a dog off lead and violence erupted. Dog behaviorists use the term barrier agression. Dogs will often display agression on one side of a fence towards a percieved threat on the opposite side of the fence. But home territory is only a piece of that puzzle. Same thing can occur when one is on lead and one isn’t. (Or two on lead, for that matter.) The one on lead has greater exposure to threats, and is much more likely to display agression. In most cases, it has nothing to do with obedience, it’s temperment. Which makes it extraordinarily risky walking a dog on lead through a dog park with dogs off lead, even with a well trained dog. (I know all hell would break loose if I tried that with my main dog.) A few dozen dogs off lead are unlikely to fight. (not never, just unlikely)[/quote]
100% right on the mark.
Threadjack; Years ago I took my pound puppy lab mix to Dog Beach in OB for the first time. He was ecstatic! Couldn’t stop running!
But there was an, “El Cajoner” any old timers here will recall that is what locals called folks from El Cajon who frequented the beach wearing cutoff jeans, no tan, etc., passed out on the beach. Complete with a 12pack next to him smack dab in the middle of dog beach. Well my dog ran over, sniffed and promptly pissed on him!! The dude exploded in rage and was ready to kick the owners ass. I was a football field away and pretended to not notice all the while laughing my head off.
Yes I did wimp out but sometimes … well I guess you should have been there.
May 29, 2010 at 7:31 PM #557140HobieParticipant[quote=SK in CV]Insightful comment.
Specially this part.
[quote=deriving drunk]
In my experience, most dog attacks occur on their home turf, be it their home or immediate surrounds, ie they are defending in a territorial manner. Occasionally packs will feed off each other’s energy, etc. Is it a real risk? Sure, but extremely uncommon.[/quote]
I’ll expand that a bit to include the event the OP described where a dog on lead was involved with a dog off lead and violence erupted. Dog behaviorists use the term barrier agression. Dogs will often display agression on one side of a fence towards a percieved threat on the opposite side of the fence. But home territory is only a piece of that puzzle. Same thing can occur when one is on lead and one isn’t. (Or two on lead, for that matter.) The one on lead has greater exposure to threats, and is much more likely to display agression. In most cases, it has nothing to do with obedience, it’s temperment. Which makes it extraordinarily risky walking a dog on lead through a dog park with dogs off lead, even with a well trained dog. (I know all hell would break loose if I tried that with my main dog.) A few dozen dogs off lead are unlikely to fight. (not never, just unlikely)[/quote]
100% right on the mark.
Threadjack; Years ago I took my pound puppy lab mix to Dog Beach in OB for the first time. He was ecstatic! Couldn’t stop running!
But there was an, “El Cajoner” any old timers here will recall that is what locals called folks from El Cajon who frequented the beach wearing cutoff jeans, no tan, etc., passed out on the beach. Complete with a 12pack next to him smack dab in the middle of dog beach. Well my dog ran over, sniffed and promptly pissed on him!! The dude exploded in rage and was ready to kick the owners ass. I was a football field away and pretended to not notice all the while laughing my head off.
Yes I did wimp out but sometimes … well I guess you should have been there.
May 29, 2010 at 7:31 PM #558007HobieParticipant[quote=SK in CV]Insightful comment.
Specially this part.
[quote=deriving drunk]
In my experience, most dog attacks occur on their home turf, be it their home or immediate surrounds, ie they are defending in a territorial manner. Occasionally packs will feed off each other’s energy, etc. Is it a real risk? Sure, but extremely uncommon.[/quote]
I’ll expand that a bit to include the event the OP described where a dog on lead was involved with a dog off lead and violence erupted. Dog behaviorists use the term barrier agression. Dogs will often display agression on one side of a fence towards a percieved threat on the opposite side of the fence. But home territory is only a piece of that puzzle. Same thing can occur when one is on lead and one isn’t. (Or two on lead, for that matter.) The one on lead has greater exposure to threats, and is much more likely to display agression. In most cases, it has nothing to do with obedience, it’s temperment. Which makes it extraordinarily risky walking a dog on lead through a dog park with dogs off lead, even with a well trained dog. (I know all hell would break loose if I tried that with my main dog.) A few dozen dogs off lead are unlikely to fight. (not never, just unlikely)[/quote]
100% right on the mark.
Threadjack; Years ago I took my pound puppy lab mix to Dog Beach in OB for the first time. He was ecstatic! Couldn’t stop running!
But there was an, “El Cajoner” any old timers here will recall that is what locals called folks from El Cajon who frequented the beach wearing cutoff jeans, no tan, etc., passed out on the beach. Complete with a 12pack next to him smack dab in the middle of dog beach. Well my dog ran over, sniffed and promptly pissed on him!! The dude exploded in rage and was ready to kick the owners ass. I was a football field away and pretended to not notice all the while laughing my head off.
Yes I did wimp out but sometimes … well I guess you should have been there.
May 29, 2010 at 7:31 PM #557040HobieParticipant[quote=SK in CV]Insightful comment.
Specially this part.
[quote=deriving drunk]
In my experience, most dog attacks occur on their home turf, be it their home or immediate surrounds, ie they are defending in a territorial manner. Occasionally packs will feed off each other’s energy, etc. Is it a real risk? Sure, but extremely uncommon.[/quote]
I’ll expand that a bit to include the event the OP described where a dog on lead was involved with a dog off lead and violence erupted. Dog behaviorists use the term barrier agression. Dogs will often display agression on one side of a fence towards a percieved threat on the opposite side of the fence. But home territory is only a piece of that puzzle. Same thing can occur when one is on lead and one isn’t. (Or two on lead, for that matter.) The one on lead has greater exposure to threats, and is much more likely to display agression. In most cases, it has nothing to do with obedience, it’s temperment. Which makes it extraordinarily risky walking a dog on lead through a dog park with dogs off lead, even with a well trained dog. (I know all hell would break loose if I tried that with my main dog.) A few dozen dogs off lead are unlikely to fight. (not never, just unlikely)[/quote]
100% right on the mark.
Threadjack; Years ago I took my pound puppy lab mix to Dog Beach in OB for the first time. He was ecstatic! Couldn’t stop running!
But there was an, “El Cajoner” any old timers here will recall that is what locals called folks from El Cajon who frequented the beach wearing cutoff jeans, no tan, etc., passed out on the beach. Complete with a 12pack next to him smack dab in the middle of dog beach. Well my dog ran over, sniffed and promptly pissed on him!! The dude exploded in rage and was ready to kick the owners ass. I was a football field away and pretended to not notice all the while laughing my head off.
Yes I did wimp out but sometimes … well I guess you should have been there.
May 29, 2010 at 8:13 PM #557759CafeMotoParticipantIt would be better to explore ways to learn to become comfortable around many types of dogs. This could help in additional places you go. This is one of those times when you are going against the grain of everyone in the area, and like others said, no consistent biting reports refutes a serious problem.
Face this fear, get back to living your dreams. Wish you the best HappsMay 29, 2010 at 8:13 PM #558038CafeMotoParticipantIt would be better to explore ways to learn to become comfortable around many types of dogs. This could help in additional places you go. This is one of those times when you are going against the grain of everyone in the area, and like others said, no consistent biting reports refutes a serious problem.
Face this fear, get back to living your dreams. Wish you the best HappsMay 29, 2010 at 8:13 PM #557172CafeMotoParticipantIt would be better to explore ways to learn to become comfortable around many types of dogs. This could help in additional places you go. This is one of those times when you are going against the grain of everyone in the area, and like others said, no consistent biting reports refutes a serious problem.
Face this fear, get back to living your dreams. Wish you the best HappsMay 29, 2010 at 8:13 PM #557072CafeMotoParticipantIt would be better to explore ways to learn to become comfortable around many types of dogs. This could help in additional places you go. This is one of those times when you are going against the grain of everyone in the area, and like others said, no consistent biting reports refutes a serious problem.
Face this fear, get back to living your dreams. Wish you the best HappsMay 29, 2010 at 8:13 PM #557659CafeMotoParticipantIt would be better to explore ways to learn to become comfortable around many types of dogs. This could help in additional places you go. This is one of those times when you are going against the grain of everyone in the area, and like others said, no consistent biting reports refutes a serious problem.
Face this fear, get back to living your dreams. Wish you the best HappsMay 29, 2010 at 8:26 PM #557764AecetiaParticipantHe could have been from Lakeside or Santee.
May 29, 2010 at 8:26 PM #558043AecetiaParticipantHe could have been from Lakeside or Santee.
May 29, 2010 at 8:26 PM #557664AecetiaParticipantHe could have been from Lakeside or Santee.
May 29, 2010 at 8:26 PM #557076AecetiaParticipantHe could have been from Lakeside or Santee.
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