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August 22, 2008 at 11:45 AM #260254August 22, 2008 at 1:36 PM #260086kewpParticipant
Without exotic loan instruments to continue propping this beast up, there is NO WAY this market can stabilize until prices and incomes come back to normal ratios.
Given the Moody’s article that subprime CDO’s are gone and never coming back, total meltdown looks like its in the bag.
August 22, 2008 at 1:36 PM #260284kewpParticipantWithout exotic loan instruments to continue propping this beast up, there is NO WAY this market can stabilize until prices and incomes come back to normal ratios.
Given the Moody’s article that subprime CDO’s are gone and never coming back, total meltdown looks like its in the bag.
August 22, 2008 at 1:36 PM #260295kewpParticipantWithout exotic loan instruments to continue propping this beast up, there is NO WAY this market can stabilize until prices and incomes come back to normal ratios.
Given the Moody’s article that subprime CDO’s are gone and never coming back, total meltdown looks like its in the bag.
August 22, 2008 at 1:36 PM #260343kewpParticipantWithout exotic loan instruments to continue propping this beast up, there is NO WAY this market can stabilize until prices and incomes come back to normal ratios.
Given the Moody’s article that subprime CDO’s are gone and never coming back, total meltdown looks like its in the bag.
August 22, 2008 at 1:36 PM #260382kewpParticipantWithout exotic loan instruments to continue propping this beast up, there is NO WAY this market can stabilize until prices and incomes come back to normal ratios.
Given the Moody’s article that subprime CDO’s are gone and never coming back, total meltdown looks like its in the bag.
August 22, 2008 at 1:50 PM #260101EugeneParticipantWithout exotic loan instruments to continue propping this beast up, there is NO WAY this market can stabilize until prices and incomes come back to normal ratios.
Do you allow the possibility that perhaps prices and incomes are already at normal ratios?
August 22, 2008 at 1:50 PM #260299EugeneParticipantWithout exotic loan instruments to continue propping this beast up, there is NO WAY this market can stabilize until prices and incomes come back to normal ratios.
Do you allow the possibility that perhaps prices and incomes are already at normal ratios?
August 22, 2008 at 1:50 PM #260310EugeneParticipantWithout exotic loan instruments to continue propping this beast up, there is NO WAY this market can stabilize until prices and incomes come back to normal ratios.
Do you allow the possibility that perhaps prices and incomes are already at normal ratios?
August 22, 2008 at 1:50 PM #260398EugeneParticipantWithout exotic loan instruments to continue propping this beast up, there is NO WAY this market can stabilize until prices and incomes come back to normal ratios.
Do you allow the possibility that perhaps prices and incomes are already at normal ratios?
August 22, 2008 at 1:50 PM #260358EugeneParticipantWithout exotic loan instruments to continue propping this beast up, there is NO WAY this market can stabilize until prices and incomes come back to normal ratios.
Do you allow the possibility that perhaps prices and incomes are already at normal ratios?
August 22, 2008 at 2:17 PM #260388peterbParticipantMost markets tend to over-correct there normalization or equilibrium models before they stabilize. Given the illiquid nature of real estate and its dependence on financial markets, these over-corrections can go on for a while. Throw rising unemployment and constricting credit into the mix and it will probably put added pressure on the over-correction of prices and duration. Growing negative sentiment will most likely play a large roll as well.
Therefore, I would consider “normal ratio’s” as one indicator towards a slowing decline, but by no means an end of the decline. IMO, there are just too many other large negative forces working on the housing market at this time.
If you study the nature of deflating markets, it’s an amazing economic event and not easily stopped.August 22, 2008 at 2:17 PM #260131peterbParticipantMost markets tend to over-correct there normalization or equilibrium models before they stabilize. Given the illiquid nature of real estate and its dependence on financial markets, these over-corrections can go on for a while. Throw rising unemployment and constricting credit into the mix and it will probably put added pressure on the over-correction of prices and duration. Growing negative sentiment will most likely play a large roll as well.
Therefore, I would consider “normal ratio’s” as one indicator towards a slowing decline, but by no means an end of the decline. IMO, there are just too many other large negative forces working on the housing market at this time.
If you study the nature of deflating markets, it’s an amazing economic event and not easily stopped.August 22, 2008 at 2:17 PM #260427peterbParticipantMost markets tend to over-correct there normalization or equilibrium models before they stabilize. Given the illiquid nature of real estate and its dependence on financial markets, these over-corrections can go on for a while. Throw rising unemployment and constricting credit into the mix and it will probably put added pressure on the over-correction of prices and duration. Growing negative sentiment will most likely play a large roll as well.
Therefore, I would consider “normal ratio’s” as one indicator towards a slowing decline, but by no means an end of the decline. IMO, there are just too many other large negative forces working on the housing market at this time.
If you study the nature of deflating markets, it’s an amazing economic event and not easily stopped.August 22, 2008 at 2:17 PM #260329peterbParticipantMost markets tend to over-correct there normalization or equilibrium models before they stabilize. Given the illiquid nature of real estate and its dependence on financial markets, these over-corrections can go on for a while. Throw rising unemployment and constricting credit into the mix and it will probably put added pressure on the over-correction of prices and duration. Growing negative sentiment will most likely play a large roll as well.
Therefore, I would consider “normal ratio’s” as one indicator towards a slowing decline, but by no means an end of the decline. IMO, there are just too many other large negative forces working on the housing market at this time.
If you study the nature of deflating markets, it’s an amazing economic event and not easily stopped. -
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