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April 28, 2009 at 9:58 PM #389939April 28, 2009 at 10:11 PM #389285equalizerParticipant
[quote=flu]Looks like the first fatality might have happened in CA.
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/apr/28/bn28flu2-ut-overview/?health&zIndex=90208
[/quote]Don’t worry, this cant be too serious because here is top priority for the CDC –
” Richard Besser, acting director of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta said the agency was considering new names for the disease in an effort to avoid hurting the pork industry, which has seen sales plummet even though the swine flu cannot be contracted by eating pork. ‘That is not helpful to pork producers. That is not helpful to people who eat pork,’ Besser said.”
More worried about pork belly futures.
“CME pork bellies futures for delivery in July fell their 3 cents daily limit, or 3.7 per cent, to 77.80 cents a pound. Prices have lost 7.2 per cent in two days. ”
I will wager $1 that PB futures will go limit down on Wed.
April 28, 2009 at 10:11 PM #389551equalizerParticipant[quote=flu]Looks like the first fatality might have happened in CA.
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/apr/28/bn28flu2-ut-overview/?health&zIndex=90208
[/quote]Don’t worry, this cant be too serious because here is top priority for the CDC –
” Richard Besser, acting director of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta said the agency was considering new names for the disease in an effort to avoid hurting the pork industry, which has seen sales plummet even though the swine flu cannot be contracted by eating pork. ‘That is not helpful to pork producers. That is not helpful to people who eat pork,’ Besser said.”
More worried about pork belly futures.
“CME pork bellies futures for delivery in July fell their 3 cents daily limit, or 3.7 per cent, to 77.80 cents a pound. Prices have lost 7.2 per cent in two days. ”
I will wager $1 that PB futures will go limit down on Wed.
April 28, 2009 at 10:11 PM #389757equalizerParticipant[quote=flu]Looks like the first fatality might have happened in CA.
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/apr/28/bn28flu2-ut-overview/?health&zIndex=90208
[/quote]Don’t worry, this cant be too serious because here is top priority for the CDC –
” Richard Besser, acting director of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta said the agency was considering new names for the disease in an effort to avoid hurting the pork industry, which has seen sales plummet even though the swine flu cannot be contracted by eating pork. ‘That is not helpful to pork producers. That is not helpful to people who eat pork,’ Besser said.”
More worried about pork belly futures.
“CME pork bellies futures for delivery in July fell their 3 cents daily limit, or 3.7 per cent, to 77.80 cents a pound. Prices have lost 7.2 per cent in two days. ”
I will wager $1 that PB futures will go limit down on Wed.
April 28, 2009 at 10:11 PM #389808equalizerParticipant[quote=flu]Looks like the first fatality might have happened in CA.
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/apr/28/bn28flu2-ut-overview/?health&zIndex=90208
[/quote]Don’t worry, this cant be too serious because here is top priority for the CDC –
” Richard Besser, acting director of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta said the agency was considering new names for the disease in an effort to avoid hurting the pork industry, which has seen sales plummet even though the swine flu cannot be contracted by eating pork. ‘That is not helpful to pork producers. That is not helpful to people who eat pork,’ Besser said.”
More worried about pork belly futures.
“CME pork bellies futures for delivery in July fell their 3 cents daily limit, or 3.7 per cent, to 77.80 cents a pound. Prices have lost 7.2 per cent in two days. ”
I will wager $1 that PB futures will go limit down on Wed.
April 28, 2009 at 10:11 PM #389949equalizerParticipant[quote=flu]Looks like the first fatality might have happened in CA.
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/apr/28/bn28flu2-ut-overview/?health&zIndex=90208
[/quote]Don’t worry, this cant be too serious because here is top priority for the CDC –
” Richard Besser, acting director of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta said the agency was considering new names for the disease in an effort to avoid hurting the pork industry, which has seen sales plummet even though the swine flu cannot be contracted by eating pork. ‘That is not helpful to pork producers. That is not helpful to people who eat pork,’ Besser said.”
More worried about pork belly futures.
“CME pork bellies futures for delivery in July fell their 3 cents daily limit, or 3.7 per cent, to 77.80 cents a pound. Prices have lost 7.2 per cent in two days. ”
I will wager $1 that PB futures will go limit down on Wed.
April 28, 2009 at 11:52 PM #389345CA renterParticipant[quote=no_such_reality][quote=Aecetia]Only you would turn this pandemic into an opportunity to misbehave. Why not use your old line about having the antidote or antibodies in your system?[/quote]
Well, I’d bet coffee that the potentially pandemic, super nasty, end of the world flu is the same flu that was going around at the end of spring break that was on the news as a late season flu resurgence.
Now, time for a little math. In the USA, we typically have 36,000 deaths a year from the flu. We have a population of 303,000,000.
Mexico city, let’s call that ground zero, is 24,000,000 in population with much of the population living in poverty.
An equivalent annual death rate would be 2850. Roughly 100/week for the six months of high activity. Mexico, has had 159 in about two weeks.
I would expect Mexico city to have a much worse death rate for general flu than the US due to poverty.
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I think you’re right about the recent flu outbreak. We are now on child #3 with very similar symptoms: high temp (104-ish), sore throat, lethargy, etc. and it lasts longer than anything we’ve had since our kids were born. Many of our friends’ kids have been dealing with exactly the same thing over the past month or so.
April 28, 2009 at 11:52 PM #389611CA renterParticipant[quote=no_such_reality][quote=Aecetia]Only you would turn this pandemic into an opportunity to misbehave. Why not use your old line about having the antidote or antibodies in your system?[/quote]
Well, I’d bet coffee that the potentially pandemic, super nasty, end of the world flu is the same flu that was going around at the end of spring break that was on the news as a late season flu resurgence.
Now, time for a little math. In the USA, we typically have 36,000 deaths a year from the flu. We have a population of 303,000,000.
Mexico city, let’s call that ground zero, is 24,000,000 in population with much of the population living in poverty.
An equivalent annual death rate would be 2850. Roughly 100/week for the six months of high activity. Mexico, has had 159 in about two weeks.
I would expect Mexico city to have a much worse death rate for general flu than the US due to poverty.
[/quote]
I think you’re right about the recent flu outbreak. We are now on child #3 with very similar symptoms: high temp (104-ish), sore throat, lethargy, etc. and it lasts longer than anything we’ve had since our kids were born. Many of our friends’ kids have been dealing with exactly the same thing over the past month or so.
April 28, 2009 at 11:52 PM #389817CA renterParticipant[quote=no_such_reality][quote=Aecetia]Only you would turn this pandemic into an opportunity to misbehave. Why not use your old line about having the antidote or antibodies in your system?[/quote]
Well, I’d bet coffee that the potentially pandemic, super nasty, end of the world flu is the same flu that was going around at the end of spring break that was on the news as a late season flu resurgence.
Now, time for a little math. In the USA, we typically have 36,000 deaths a year from the flu. We have a population of 303,000,000.
Mexico city, let’s call that ground zero, is 24,000,000 in population with much of the population living in poverty.
An equivalent annual death rate would be 2850. Roughly 100/week for the six months of high activity. Mexico, has had 159 in about two weeks.
I would expect Mexico city to have a much worse death rate for general flu than the US due to poverty.
[/quote]
I think you’re right about the recent flu outbreak. We are now on child #3 with very similar symptoms: high temp (104-ish), sore throat, lethargy, etc. and it lasts longer than anything we’ve had since our kids were born. Many of our friends’ kids have been dealing with exactly the same thing over the past month or so.
April 28, 2009 at 11:52 PM #389868CA renterParticipant[quote=no_such_reality][quote=Aecetia]Only you would turn this pandemic into an opportunity to misbehave. Why not use your old line about having the antidote or antibodies in your system?[/quote]
Well, I’d bet coffee that the potentially pandemic, super nasty, end of the world flu is the same flu that was going around at the end of spring break that was on the news as a late season flu resurgence.
Now, time for a little math. In the USA, we typically have 36,000 deaths a year from the flu. We have a population of 303,000,000.
Mexico city, let’s call that ground zero, is 24,000,000 in population with much of the population living in poverty.
An equivalent annual death rate would be 2850. Roughly 100/week for the six months of high activity. Mexico, has had 159 in about two weeks.
I would expect Mexico city to have a much worse death rate for general flu than the US due to poverty.
[/quote]
I think you’re right about the recent flu outbreak. We are now on child #3 with very similar symptoms: high temp (104-ish), sore throat, lethargy, etc. and it lasts longer than anything we’ve had since our kids were born. Many of our friends’ kids have been dealing with exactly the same thing over the past month or so.
April 28, 2009 at 11:52 PM #390009CA renterParticipant[quote=no_such_reality][quote=Aecetia]Only you would turn this pandemic into an opportunity to misbehave. Why not use your old line about having the antidote or antibodies in your system?[/quote]
Well, I’d bet coffee that the potentially pandemic, super nasty, end of the world flu is the same flu that was going around at the end of spring break that was on the news as a late season flu resurgence.
Now, time for a little math. In the USA, we typically have 36,000 deaths a year from the flu. We have a population of 303,000,000.
Mexico city, let’s call that ground zero, is 24,000,000 in population with much of the population living in poverty.
An equivalent annual death rate would be 2850. Roughly 100/week for the six months of high activity. Mexico, has had 159 in about two weeks.
I would expect Mexico city to have a much worse death rate for general flu than the US due to poverty.
[/quote]
I think you’re right about the recent flu outbreak. We are now on child #3 with very similar symptoms: high temp (104-ish), sore throat, lethargy, etc. and it lasts longer than anything we’ve had since our kids were born. Many of our friends’ kids have been dealing with exactly the same thing over the past month or so.
April 29, 2009 at 1:48 AM #389370partypupParticipant[quote=jpinpb]partypup – I used prophetic. Maybe too strong of a word, but it sort of seems to be unraveling generally according to your concerns. That’s why I said that. I didn’t mean it in a bad way. It was a little eerie, though. You seem pretty in touch w/things or very aware (maybe too much?)[/quote]
Thanks for explaining, jp. I never take offense to your posts, BTW π
If I’m in touch with things it’s only because I’ve now reached a point in my life that my father – a retired member of the L.A. County Sheriff’s and a 35-year veteran – reached very early on in his career. He taught me to trust almost nothing I see on TV, and to trust absolutely nothing our elected officials tell us. For example, he told me very early on that the crime stats issued by law enforcement were completely bogus and purposefully downplayed for political reasons. Everyone in the department knew and played along. If you ever really want to know what’s going on, listen to what the talking heads say, listen to what the folks in government are telling you, and understand that the EXACT opposite is usually occurring. And as our economic condition deteriorates, you will see this axiom holds truer than ever. Last fall when Hank Paulson came begging for TARP money, I suspected he was a crook. And when he was hailed as a savior by Congress and the media, that was my confirmation. Flash forward 6 months, no one can figure out where the TARP funds went, the media is now discovering he may be guilty of SEC violations based on information withheld from shareholders in the B of A/Merrill merger, and Larry Kudlow is practically accusing Paulson of treason. It’s become a complete and utter joke now.
I should add that my profession has also colored my thinking. Lawyers comprise an unusually high percentage of elected officials in government. Shocking as it may sound, before I went to law school I believed in the goodness and kindness of men, the honesty of those charged with leading us and the fairness of our justice system. All that completely changed by my third year in law school after I had spent thousands of hours poring over cases written by men (and women) who claimed to honor our judicial system, but too often and quite clearly manipulated it to accomplish their own agenda. Seriously, if you want to see damn smart people twist language and reason backwards to reach conclusions and opinions formed at the outset, just spend a few days in a law library. Bush v Gore pretty much ended my belief in the justice system – and our government.
And now, sadly, the people responsible for destroying my faith in our justice system (lawyers) are the people “leading” us through this crisis.
This is why I have retreated to the only area of law that I can stomach: entertainment. At least when lawyers screw people over in my line of work, the only ones who get hurt are overpaid dolts with marginal talent.
April 29, 2009 at 1:48 AM #389636partypupParticipant[quote=jpinpb]partypup – I used prophetic. Maybe too strong of a word, but it sort of seems to be unraveling generally according to your concerns. That’s why I said that. I didn’t mean it in a bad way. It was a little eerie, though. You seem pretty in touch w/things or very aware (maybe too much?)[/quote]
Thanks for explaining, jp. I never take offense to your posts, BTW π
If I’m in touch with things it’s only because I’ve now reached a point in my life that my father – a retired member of the L.A. County Sheriff’s and a 35-year veteran – reached very early on in his career. He taught me to trust almost nothing I see on TV, and to trust absolutely nothing our elected officials tell us. For example, he told me very early on that the crime stats issued by law enforcement were completely bogus and purposefully downplayed for political reasons. Everyone in the department knew and played along. If you ever really want to know what’s going on, listen to what the talking heads say, listen to what the folks in government are telling you, and understand that the EXACT opposite is usually occurring. And as our economic condition deteriorates, you will see this axiom holds truer than ever. Last fall when Hank Paulson came begging for TARP money, I suspected he was a crook. And when he was hailed as a savior by Congress and the media, that was my confirmation. Flash forward 6 months, no one can figure out where the TARP funds went, the media is now discovering he may be guilty of SEC violations based on information withheld from shareholders in the B of A/Merrill merger, and Larry Kudlow is practically accusing Paulson of treason. It’s become a complete and utter joke now.
I should add that my profession has also colored my thinking. Lawyers comprise an unusually high percentage of elected officials in government. Shocking as it may sound, before I went to law school I believed in the goodness and kindness of men, the honesty of those charged with leading us and the fairness of our justice system. All that completely changed by my third year in law school after I had spent thousands of hours poring over cases written by men (and women) who claimed to honor our judicial system, but too often and quite clearly manipulated it to accomplish their own agenda. Seriously, if you want to see damn smart people twist language and reason backwards to reach conclusions and opinions formed at the outset, just spend a few days in a law library. Bush v Gore pretty much ended my belief in the justice system – and our government.
And now, sadly, the people responsible for destroying my faith in our justice system (lawyers) are the people “leading” us through this crisis.
This is why I have retreated to the only area of law that I can stomach: entertainment. At least when lawyers screw people over in my line of work, the only ones who get hurt are overpaid dolts with marginal talent.
April 29, 2009 at 1:48 AM #389842partypupParticipant[quote=jpinpb]partypup – I used prophetic. Maybe too strong of a word, but it sort of seems to be unraveling generally according to your concerns. That’s why I said that. I didn’t mean it in a bad way. It was a little eerie, though. You seem pretty in touch w/things or very aware (maybe too much?)[/quote]
Thanks for explaining, jp. I never take offense to your posts, BTW π
If I’m in touch with things it’s only because I’ve now reached a point in my life that my father – a retired member of the L.A. County Sheriff’s and a 35-year veteran – reached very early on in his career. He taught me to trust almost nothing I see on TV, and to trust absolutely nothing our elected officials tell us. For example, he told me very early on that the crime stats issued by law enforcement were completely bogus and purposefully downplayed for political reasons. Everyone in the department knew and played along. If you ever really want to know what’s going on, listen to what the talking heads say, listen to what the folks in government are telling you, and understand that the EXACT opposite is usually occurring. And as our economic condition deteriorates, you will see this axiom holds truer than ever. Last fall when Hank Paulson came begging for TARP money, I suspected he was a crook. And when he was hailed as a savior by Congress and the media, that was my confirmation. Flash forward 6 months, no one can figure out where the TARP funds went, the media is now discovering he may be guilty of SEC violations based on information withheld from shareholders in the B of A/Merrill merger, and Larry Kudlow is practically accusing Paulson of treason. It’s become a complete and utter joke now.
I should add that my profession has also colored my thinking. Lawyers comprise an unusually high percentage of elected officials in government. Shocking as it may sound, before I went to law school I believed in the goodness and kindness of men, the honesty of those charged with leading us and the fairness of our justice system. All that completely changed by my third year in law school after I had spent thousands of hours poring over cases written by men (and women) who claimed to honor our judicial system, but too often and quite clearly manipulated it to accomplish their own agenda. Seriously, if you want to see damn smart people twist language and reason backwards to reach conclusions and opinions formed at the outset, just spend a few days in a law library. Bush v Gore pretty much ended my belief in the justice system – and our government.
And now, sadly, the people responsible for destroying my faith in our justice system (lawyers) are the people “leading” us through this crisis.
This is why I have retreated to the only area of law that I can stomach: entertainment. At least when lawyers screw people over in my line of work, the only ones who get hurt are overpaid dolts with marginal talent.
April 29, 2009 at 1:48 AM #389893partypupParticipant[quote=jpinpb]partypup – I used prophetic. Maybe too strong of a word, but it sort of seems to be unraveling generally according to your concerns. That’s why I said that. I didn’t mean it in a bad way. It was a little eerie, though. You seem pretty in touch w/things or very aware (maybe too much?)[/quote]
Thanks for explaining, jp. I never take offense to your posts, BTW π
If I’m in touch with things it’s only because I’ve now reached a point in my life that my father – a retired member of the L.A. County Sheriff’s and a 35-year veteran – reached very early on in his career. He taught me to trust almost nothing I see on TV, and to trust absolutely nothing our elected officials tell us. For example, he told me very early on that the crime stats issued by law enforcement were completely bogus and purposefully downplayed for political reasons. Everyone in the department knew and played along. If you ever really want to know what’s going on, listen to what the talking heads say, listen to what the folks in government are telling you, and understand that the EXACT opposite is usually occurring. And as our economic condition deteriorates, you will see this axiom holds truer than ever. Last fall when Hank Paulson came begging for TARP money, I suspected he was a crook. And when he was hailed as a savior by Congress and the media, that was my confirmation. Flash forward 6 months, no one can figure out where the TARP funds went, the media is now discovering he may be guilty of SEC violations based on information withheld from shareholders in the B of A/Merrill merger, and Larry Kudlow is practically accusing Paulson of treason. It’s become a complete and utter joke now.
I should add that my profession has also colored my thinking. Lawyers comprise an unusually high percentage of elected officials in government. Shocking as it may sound, before I went to law school I believed in the goodness and kindness of men, the honesty of those charged with leading us and the fairness of our justice system. All that completely changed by my third year in law school after I had spent thousands of hours poring over cases written by men (and women) who claimed to honor our judicial system, but too often and quite clearly manipulated it to accomplish their own agenda. Seriously, if you want to see damn smart people twist language and reason backwards to reach conclusions and opinions formed at the outset, just spend a few days in a law library. Bush v Gore pretty much ended my belief in the justice system – and our government.
And now, sadly, the people responsible for destroying my faith in our justice system (lawyers) are the people “leading” us through this crisis.
This is why I have retreated to the only area of law that I can stomach: entertainment. At least when lawyers screw people over in my line of work, the only ones who get hurt are overpaid dolts with marginal talent.
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