Day of reckoning looms for the U.S. dollar

[nostradamus]

LOL. I’ve bought something like 400 movies (at least that’s how many I still have in my collection, they tend to “walk away”) and Blade Runner (director’s cut) as well as all the Mad Max films are of course part of my collection. Blade Runner was based on the book Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? Which is timeless… Hard to believe it was written in 1968. I am one who (like many) will almost always prefer the book to the movie.

Another potential-future movie I love is A Clockwork Orange. The movie is dated but the book just blows it away… I do see the self-entitled people of today turning into ultra-violent Alexes!

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=nostradamus]LOL. I’ve bought something like 400 movies (at least that’s how many I still have in my collection, they tend to “walk away”) and Blade Runner (director’s cut) as well as all the Mad Max films are of course part of my collection. Blade Runner was based on the book Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? Which is timeless… Hard to believe it was written in 1968. I am one who (like many) will almost always prefer the book to the movie.

Another potential-future movie I love is A Clockwork Orange. The movie is dated but the book just blows it away… I do see the self-entitled people of today turning into ultra-violent Alexes![/quote]

Nost: Philip K. Dick wrote the short story “Do Androids…”, as well as dozens of other stories and novels that have been turned into movies.

IMHO, one of the greatest sci-fi writers ever, and I say that as a fan of Asimov, Heinlein, Clarke, etc.

Interesting side note: He died in 1982 nearly right at the release of “Blade Runner” and absolutely hated the movie, saying that Ridley Scott had destroyed his vision of the tale. I wonder what he would have thought of the Director’s Cut, which is vastly superior to the theatrical release, for no other reason than it eliminated that annoying Harrison Ford narrative/voice over.

If you’re a fan of alternative history, read his novel, “The Man in the High Castle”, which is an alternative history of WWII (the Axis wins this time). Good stuff.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=nostradamus]LOL. I’ve bought something like 400 movies (at least that’s how many I still have in my collection, they tend to “walk away”) and Blade Runner (director’s cut) as well as all the Mad Max films are of course part of my collection. Blade Runner was based on the book Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? Which is timeless… Hard to believe it was written in 1968. I am one who (like many) will almost always prefer the book to the movie.

Another potential-future movie I love is A Clockwork Orange. The movie is dated but the book just blows it away… I do see the self-entitled people of today turning into ultra-violent Alexes![/quote]

Nost: Philip K. Dick wrote the short story “Do Androids…”, as well as dozens of other stories and novels that have been turned into movies.

IMHO, one of the greatest sci-fi writers ever, and I say that as a fan of Asimov, Heinlein, Clarke, etc.

Interesting side note: He died in 1982 nearly right at the release of “Blade Runner” and absolutely hated the movie, saying that Ridley Scott had destroyed his vision of the tale. I wonder what he would have thought of the Director’s Cut, which is vastly superior to the theatrical release, for no other reason than it eliminated that annoying Harrison Ford narrative/voice over.

If you’re a fan of alternative history, read his novel, “The Man in the High Castle”, which is an alternative history of WWII (the Axis wins this time). Good stuff.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=nostradamus]LOL. I’ve bought something like 400 movies (at least that’s how many I still have in my collection, they tend to “walk away”) and Blade Runner (director’s cut) as well as all the Mad Max films are of course part of my collection. Blade Runner was based on the book Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? Which is timeless… Hard to believe it was written in 1968. I am one who (like many) will almost always prefer the book to the movie.

Another potential-future movie I love is A Clockwork Orange. The movie is dated but the book just blows it away… I do see the self-entitled people of today turning into ultra-violent Alexes![/quote]

Nost: Philip K. Dick wrote the short story “Do Androids…”, as well as dozens of other stories and novels that have been turned into movies.

IMHO, one of the greatest sci-fi writers ever, and I say that as a fan of Asimov, Heinlein, Clarke, etc.

Interesting side note: He died in 1982 nearly right at the release of “Blade Runner” and absolutely hated the movie, saying that Ridley Scott had destroyed his vision of the tale. I wonder what he would have thought of the Director’s Cut, which is vastly superior to the theatrical release, for no other reason than it eliminated that annoying Harrison Ford narrative/voice over.

If you’re a fan of alternative history, read his novel, “The Man in the High Castle”, which is an alternative history of WWII (the Axis wins this time). Good stuff.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=nostradamus]LOL. I’ve bought something like 400 movies (at least that’s how many I still have in my collection, they tend to “walk away”) and Blade Runner (director’s cut) as well as all the Mad Max films are of course part of my collection. Blade Runner was based on the book Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? Which is timeless… Hard to believe it was written in 1968. I am one who (like many) will almost always prefer the book to the movie.

Another potential-future movie I love is A Clockwork Orange. The movie is dated but the book just blows it away… I do see the self-entitled people of today turning into ultra-violent Alexes![/quote]

Nost: Philip K. Dick wrote the short story “Do Androids…”, as well as dozens of other stories and novels that have been turned into movies.

IMHO, one of the greatest sci-fi writers ever, and I say that as a fan of Asimov, Heinlein, Clarke, etc.

Interesting side note: He died in 1982 nearly right at the release of “Blade Runner” and absolutely hated the movie, saying that Ridley Scott had destroyed his vision of the tale. I wonder what he would have thought of the Director’s Cut, which is vastly superior to the theatrical release, for no other reason than it eliminated that annoying Harrison Ford narrative/voice over.

If you’re a fan of alternative history, read his novel, “The Man in the High Castle”, which is an alternative history of WWII (the Axis wins this time). Good stuff.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=nostradamus]LOL. I’ve bought something like 400 movies (at least that’s how many I still have in my collection, they tend to “walk away”) and Blade Runner (director’s cut) as well as all the Mad Max films are of course part of my collection. Blade Runner was based on the book Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? Which is timeless… Hard to believe it was written in 1968. I am one who (like many) will almost always prefer the book to the movie.

Another potential-future movie I love is A Clockwork Orange. The movie is dated but the book just blows it away… I do see the self-entitled people of today turning into ultra-violent Alexes![/quote]

Nost: Philip K. Dick wrote the short story “Do Androids…”, as well as dozens of other stories and novels that have been turned into movies.

IMHO, one of the greatest sci-fi writers ever, and I say that as a fan of Asimov, Heinlein, Clarke, etc.

Interesting side note: He died in 1982 nearly right at the release of “Blade Runner” and absolutely hated the movie, saying that Ridley Scott had destroyed his vision of the tale. I wonder what he would have thought of the Director’s Cut, which is vastly superior to the theatrical release, for no other reason than it eliminated that annoying Harrison Ford narrative/voice over.

If you’re a fan of alternative history, read his novel, “The Man in the High Castle”, which is an alternative history of WWII (the Axis wins this time). Good stuff.

[Arraya]

Of course we need to expand net energy to increase productions of goods and services and thus pay off our debts. Unfortunately it’s only going down, slowly now and quickly in a few years, probably 2-3. Factor in population growth and the per capita energy use has to go down and however that manifests. Most likely it will concentrate. Economics does not sufficiently handle this problem. Bernake can’t print energy and that by definition is the ability to do work.

As for movies depicting the future. Watch the first 15 minutes of “The Running Man”. Has the timing dead on, IMO. The creators must be peak oil savvy.

The year is 2017. The world economy has collapsed. The United States has sealed off it’s borders and has become a military controlled police state which controls TV, movies, art, books, communication and censorship. In the police state America has become, criminals have a choice…

Arnie gets in trouble for not obeying orders to shoot food rioters.

Blade Runner is in my top five as well.

[Arraya]

Of course we need to expand net energy to increase productions of goods and services and thus pay off our debts. Unfortunately it’s only going down, slowly now and quickly in a few years, probably 2-3. Factor in population growth and the per capita energy use has to go down and however that manifests. Most likely it will concentrate. Economics does not sufficiently handle this problem. Bernake can’t print energy and that by definition is the ability to do work.

As for movies depicting the future. Watch the first 15 minutes of “The Running Man”. Has the timing dead on, IMO. The creators must be peak oil savvy.

The year is 2017. The world economy has collapsed. The United States has sealed off it’s borders and has become a military controlled police state which controls TV, movies, art, books, communication and censorship. In the police state America has become, criminals have a choice…

Arnie gets in trouble for not obeying orders to shoot food rioters.

Blade Runner is in my top five as well.

[Arraya]

Of course we need to expand net energy to increase productions of goods and services and thus pay off our debts. Unfortunately it’s only going down, slowly now and quickly in a few years, probably 2-3. Factor in population growth and the per capita energy use has to go down and however that manifests. Most likely it will concentrate. Economics does not sufficiently handle this problem. Bernake can’t print energy and that by definition is the ability to do work.

As for movies depicting the future. Watch the first 15 minutes of “The Running Man”. Has the timing dead on, IMO. The creators must be peak oil savvy.

The year is 2017. The world economy has collapsed. The United States has sealed off it’s borders and has become a military controlled police state which controls TV, movies, art, books, communication and censorship. In the police state America has become, criminals have a choice…

Arnie gets in trouble for not obeying orders to shoot food rioters.

Blade Runner is in my top five as well.

[Arraya]

Of course we need to expand net energy to increase productions of goods and services and thus pay off our debts. Unfortunately it’s only going down, slowly now and quickly in a few years, probably 2-3. Factor in population growth and the per capita energy use has to go down and however that manifests. Most likely it will concentrate. Economics does not sufficiently handle this problem. Bernake can’t print energy and that by definition is the ability to do work.

As for movies depicting the future. Watch the first 15 minutes of “The Running Man”. Has the timing dead on, IMO. The creators must be peak oil savvy.

The year is 2017. The world economy has collapsed. The United States has sealed off it’s borders and has become a military controlled police state which controls TV, movies, art, books, communication and censorship. In the police state America has become, criminals have a choice…

Arnie gets in trouble for not obeying orders to shoot food rioters.

Blade Runner is in my top five as well.

[Arraya]

Of course we need to expand net energy to increase productions of goods and services and thus pay off our debts. Unfortunately it’s only going down, slowly now and quickly in a few years, probably 2-3. Factor in population growth and the per capita energy use has to go down and however that manifests. Most likely it will concentrate. Economics does not sufficiently handle this problem. Bernake can’t print energy and that by definition is the ability to do work.

As for movies depicting the future. Watch the first 15 minutes of “The Running Man”. Has the timing dead on, IMO. The creators must be peak oil savvy.

The year is 2017. The world economy has collapsed. The United States has sealed off it’s borders and has become a military controlled police state which controls TV, movies, art, books, communication and censorship. In the police state America has become, criminals have a choice…

Arnie gets in trouble for not obeying orders to shoot food rioters.

Blade Runner is in my top five as well.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]Of course we need to expand net energy to increase productions of goods and services and thus pay off our debts. Unfortunately it’s only going down, slowly now and quickly in a few years, probably 2-3. Factor in population growth and the per capita energy use has to go down and however that manifests. Most likely it will concentrate. Economics does not sufficiently handle this problem. Bernake can’t print energy and that by definition is the ability to do work.

As for movies depicting the future. Watch the first 15 minutes of “The Running Man”. Has the timing dead on, IMO. The creators must be peak oil savvy.

The year is 2017. The world economy has collapsed. The United States has sealed off it’s borders and has become a military controlled police state which controls TV, movies, art, books, communication and censorship. In the police state America has become, criminals have a choice…

Arnie gets in trouble for not obeying orders to shoot food rioters.

Blade Runner is in my top five as well.

[/quote]

Arraya: I must confess I’m torn. You’re one of my favorite posters on this board and one of the more astute in my humble opinion.

However, you’ve just referenced a movie that not only features Ah-nuld, but Richard Dawson, Jesse Ventura and Jim Brown. Dude! What are we to think?

While I’m thinking about it, are you a Neil Gaiman fan? If so, check out author China Mieville (it’s actually a British guy). I think you’ll like his style.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]Of course we need to expand net energy to increase productions of goods and services and thus pay off our debts. Unfortunately it’s only going down, slowly now and quickly in a few years, probably 2-3. Factor in population growth and the per capita energy use has to go down and however that manifests. Most likely it will concentrate. Economics does not sufficiently handle this problem. Bernake can’t print energy and that by definition is the ability to do work.

As for movies depicting the future. Watch the first 15 minutes of “The Running Man”. Has the timing dead on, IMO. The creators must be peak oil savvy.

The year is 2017. The world economy has collapsed. The United States has sealed off it’s borders and has become a military controlled police state which controls TV, movies, art, books, communication and censorship. In the police state America has become, criminals have a choice…

Arnie gets in trouble for not obeying orders to shoot food rioters.

Blade Runner is in my top five as well.

[/quote]

Arraya: I must confess I’m torn. You’re one of my favorite posters on this board and one of the more astute in my humble opinion.

However, you’ve just referenced a movie that not only features Ah-nuld, but Richard Dawson, Jesse Ventura and Jim Brown. Dude! What are we to think?

While I’m thinking about it, are you a Neil Gaiman fan? If so, check out author China Mieville (it’s actually a British guy). I think you’ll like his style.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]Of course we need to expand net energy to increase productions of goods and services and thus pay off our debts. Unfortunately it’s only going down, slowly now and quickly in a few years, probably 2-3. Factor in population growth and the per capita energy use has to go down and however that manifests. Most likely it will concentrate. Economics does not sufficiently handle this problem. Bernake can’t print energy and that by definition is the ability to do work.

As for movies depicting the future. Watch the first 15 minutes of “The Running Man”. Has the timing dead on, IMO. The creators must be peak oil savvy.

The year is 2017. The world economy has collapsed. The United States has sealed off it’s borders and has become a military controlled police state which controls TV, movies, art, books, communication and censorship. In the police state America has become, criminals have a choice…

Arnie gets in trouble for not obeying orders to shoot food rioters.

Blade Runner is in my top five as well.

[/quote]

Arraya: I must confess I’m torn. You’re one of my favorite posters on this board and one of the more astute in my humble opinion.

However, you’ve just referenced a movie that not only features Ah-nuld, but Richard Dawson, Jesse Ventura and Jim Brown. Dude! What are we to think?

While I’m thinking about it, are you a Neil Gaiman fan? If so, check out author China Mieville (it’s actually a British guy). I think you’ll like his style.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Arraya]Of course we need to expand net energy to increase productions of goods and services and thus pay off our debts. Unfortunately it’s only going down, slowly now and quickly in a few years, probably 2-3. Factor in population growth and the per capita energy use has to go down and however that manifests. Most likely it will concentrate. Economics does not sufficiently handle this problem. Bernake can’t print energy and that by definition is the ability to do work.

As for movies depicting the future. Watch the first 15 minutes of “The Running Man”. Has the timing dead on, IMO. The creators must be peak oil savvy.

The year is 2017. The world economy has collapsed. The United States has sealed off it’s borders and has become a military controlled police state which controls TV, movies, art, books, communication and censorship. In the police state America has become, criminals have a choice…

Arnie gets in trouble for not obeying orders to shoot food rioters.

Blade Runner is in my top five as well.

[/quote]

Arraya: I must confess I’m torn. You’re one of my favorite posters on this board and one of the more astute in my humble opinion.

However, you’ve just referenced a movie that not only features Ah-nuld, but Richard Dawson, Jesse Ventura and Jim Brown. Dude! What are we to think?

While I’m thinking about it, are you a Neil Gaiman fan? If so, check out author China Mieville (it’s actually a British guy). I think you’ll like his style.

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