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December 27, 2010 at 1:32 PM #646010December 27, 2010 at 1:50 PM #644907SD RealtorParticipant
Actually there were/are many provisions that are already law and have been around well before the reform act that HAD THEY BEEN ENFORCED would have been quite helpful. It is the same thing with the gulf oil spill, regulations were already in place but they were not enforced properly.
If you want to play the cut and paste game I can find plenty of con arguments against it, I prefer not to waste others time.
December 27, 2010 at 1:50 PM #644979SD RealtorParticipantActually there were/are many provisions that are already law and have been around well before the reform act that HAD THEY BEEN ENFORCED would have been quite helpful. It is the same thing with the gulf oil spill, regulations were already in place but they were not enforced properly.
If you want to play the cut and paste game I can find plenty of con arguments against it, I prefer not to waste others time.
December 27, 2010 at 1:50 PM #645559SD RealtorParticipantActually there were/are many provisions that are already law and have been around well before the reform act that HAD THEY BEEN ENFORCED would have been quite helpful. It is the same thing with the gulf oil spill, regulations were already in place but they were not enforced properly.
If you want to play the cut and paste game I can find plenty of con arguments against it, I prefer not to waste others time.
December 27, 2010 at 1:50 PM #645696SD RealtorParticipantActually there were/are many provisions that are already law and have been around well before the reform act that HAD THEY BEEN ENFORCED would have been quite helpful. It is the same thing with the gulf oil spill, regulations were already in place but they were not enforced properly.
If you want to play the cut and paste game I can find plenty of con arguments against it, I prefer not to waste others time.
December 27, 2010 at 1:50 PM #646020SD RealtorParticipantActually there were/are many provisions that are already law and have been around well before the reform act that HAD THEY BEEN ENFORCED would have been quite helpful. It is the same thing with the gulf oil spill, regulations were already in place but they were not enforced properly.
If you want to play the cut and paste game I can find plenty of con arguments against it, I prefer not to waste others time.
December 27, 2010 at 2:07 PM #644912briansd1Guest[quote=SD Realtor]Actually there were/are many provisions that are already law and have been around well before the reform act that HAD THEY BEEN ENFORCED would have been quite helpful. It is the same thing with the gulf oil spill, regulations were already in place but they were not enforced properly.
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Assuming you are correct and that the financial reform law restated what was already law; how does that make the law bad in of itself?
Congress legislates. The executive branch enforces the laws; and the financial crisis occurred in 2008. The crisis was due to lack of enforcement from 2000 to 2008.
I believe that the consume protection agency is a big win. Financial reform is a step forward.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/article/financial-reform-bill-means-big-consumers/story?id=11012343If you want to claim that financial reform is a step backwards, then please state your reasons.
December 27, 2010 at 2:07 PM #644984briansd1Guest[quote=SD Realtor]Actually there were/are many provisions that are already law and have been around well before the reform act that HAD THEY BEEN ENFORCED would have been quite helpful. It is the same thing with the gulf oil spill, regulations were already in place but they were not enforced properly.
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Assuming you are correct and that the financial reform law restated what was already law; how does that make the law bad in of itself?
Congress legislates. The executive branch enforces the laws; and the financial crisis occurred in 2008. The crisis was due to lack of enforcement from 2000 to 2008.
I believe that the consume protection agency is a big win. Financial reform is a step forward.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/article/financial-reform-bill-means-big-consumers/story?id=11012343If you want to claim that financial reform is a step backwards, then please state your reasons.
December 27, 2010 at 2:07 PM #645564briansd1Guest[quote=SD Realtor]Actually there were/are many provisions that are already law and have been around well before the reform act that HAD THEY BEEN ENFORCED would have been quite helpful. It is the same thing with the gulf oil spill, regulations were already in place but they were not enforced properly.
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Assuming you are correct and that the financial reform law restated what was already law; how does that make the law bad in of itself?
Congress legislates. The executive branch enforces the laws; and the financial crisis occurred in 2008. The crisis was due to lack of enforcement from 2000 to 2008.
I believe that the consume protection agency is a big win. Financial reform is a step forward.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/article/financial-reform-bill-means-big-consumers/story?id=11012343If you want to claim that financial reform is a step backwards, then please state your reasons.
December 27, 2010 at 2:07 PM #645701briansd1Guest[quote=SD Realtor]Actually there were/are many provisions that are already law and have been around well before the reform act that HAD THEY BEEN ENFORCED would have been quite helpful. It is the same thing with the gulf oil spill, regulations were already in place but they were not enforced properly.
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Assuming you are correct and that the financial reform law restated what was already law; how does that make the law bad in of itself?
Congress legislates. The executive branch enforces the laws; and the financial crisis occurred in 2008. The crisis was due to lack of enforcement from 2000 to 2008.
I believe that the consume protection agency is a big win. Financial reform is a step forward.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/article/financial-reform-bill-means-big-consumers/story?id=11012343If you want to claim that financial reform is a step backwards, then please state your reasons.
December 27, 2010 at 2:07 PM #646025briansd1Guest[quote=SD Realtor]Actually there were/are many provisions that are already law and have been around well before the reform act that HAD THEY BEEN ENFORCED would have been quite helpful. It is the same thing with the gulf oil spill, regulations were already in place but they were not enforced properly.
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Assuming you are correct and that the financial reform law restated what was already law; how does that make the law bad in of itself?
Congress legislates. The executive branch enforces the laws; and the financial crisis occurred in 2008. The crisis was due to lack of enforcement from 2000 to 2008.
I believe that the consume protection agency is a big win. Financial reform is a step forward.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/article/financial-reform-bill-means-big-consumers/story?id=11012343If you want to claim that financial reform is a step backwards, then please state your reasons.
December 27, 2010 at 2:31 PM #644917DjshakesParticipant[quote=briansd1]I believe it’s time that we recognize that in America, we intervene in the economy just as much as the socialist countries of Europe.
We just don’t call it what it is to obfuscate the issues. We bail out the banks, but our government is too timid to take them over and throw out the executives.
Our brand of socialism is for the very richest. It creates periods of exhuberance in boom and bust cycles. Only the most entrepreneurial and best connected people can take advantage of those cycles.[/quote]
Under a Socialist model the government owns the means of production. When SHTF the people rise up and blame the government…much like what is happening in Europe.
Under a Facist model the means of production remains under private ownership often directed by the government. This is a much more politically viable model. When the economy takes a turn for the worse politicians parade the business owners in front of a congressional hearing condemning them for the economies ails while all along the business owners were simply following the legislation bestowed upon them by the condemning political body.
What type of model seems more indicative in the US right now? Think Dood and Frank.
December 27, 2010 at 2:31 PM #644989DjshakesParticipant[quote=briansd1]I believe it’s time that we recognize that in America, we intervene in the economy just as much as the socialist countries of Europe.
We just don’t call it what it is to obfuscate the issues. We bail out the banks, but our government is too timid to take them over and throw out the executives.
Our brand of socialism is for the very richest. It creates periods of exhuberance in boom and bust cycles. Only the most entrepreneurial and best connected people can take advantage of those cycles.[/quote]
Under a Socialist model the government owns the means of production. When SHTF the people rise up and blame the government…much like what is happening in Europe.
Under a Facist model the means of production remains under private ownership often directed by the government. This is a much more politically viable model. When the economy takes a turn for the worse politicians parade the business owners in front of a congressional hearing condemning them for the economies ails while all along the business owners were simply following the legislation bestowed upon them by the condemning political body.
What type of model seems more indicative in the US right now? Think Dood and Frank.
December 27, 2010 at 2:31 PM #645569DjshakesParticipant[quote=briansd1]I believe it’s time that we recognize that in America, we intervene in the economy just as much as the socialist countries of Europe.
We just don’t call it what it is to obfuscate the issues. We bail out the banks, but our government is too timid to take them over and throw out the executives.
Our brand of socialism is for the very richest. It creates periods of exhuberance in boom and bust cycles. Only the most entrepreneurial and best connected people can take advantage of those cycles.[/quote]
Under a Socialist model the government owns the means of production. When SHTF the people rise up and blame the government…much like what is happening in Europe.
Under a Facist model the means of production remains under private ownership often directed by the government. This is a much more politically viable model. When the economy takes a turn for the worse politicians parade the business owners in front of a congressional hearing condemning them for the economies ails while all along the business owners were simply following the legislation bestowed upon them by the condemning political body.
What type of model seems more indicative in the US right now? Think Dood and Frank.
December 27, 2010 at 2:31 PM #645706DjshakesParticipant[quote=briansd1]I believe it’s time that we recognize that in America, we intervene in the economy just as much as the socialist countries of Europe.
We just don’t call it what it is to obfuscate the issues. We bail out the banks, but our government is too timid to take them over and throw out the executives.
Our brand of socialism is for the very richest. It creates periods of exhuberance in boom and bust cycles. Only the most entrepreneurial and best connected people can take advantage of those cycles.[/quote]
Under a Socialist model the government owns the means of production. When SHTF the people rise up and blame the government…much like what is happening in Europe.
Under a Facist model the means of production remains under private ownership often directed by the government. This is a much more politically viable model. When the economy takes a turn for the worse politicians parade the business owners in front of a congressional hearing condemning them for the economies ails while all along the business owners were simply following the legislation bestowed upon them by the condemning political body.
What type of model seems more indicative in the US right now? Think Dood and Frank.
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