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October 11, 2010 at 10:34 PM #18061October 12, 2010 at 6:55 AM #616207permabearParticipant
I just went through this exercise in the Santaluz area and decided not to build. I spoke with several architects, and all of them told me $200-250 was more realistic.
Those contractors are likely lowballing you to get the job. I spoke with one who said $150, and then we went through the type of house, and finishes, etc, and it became $180… 200… 230…
What is your total budget? If you’re talking $1-1.2M, my conclusion was you can’t build a nice home for that, especially in that area. If you then go up a bit in price, I think 1.5M is definitely doable, but then there are also occasional deals like this too in that price range:
http://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Diego/7828-Santaluz-Inlt-92127/home/7447454
I ran a whole excel spreadsheet and figured the house would have to be about 3000 sq ft and the land < 300k, and then you could hit $1-1.2M realistically. But remember there's that extra $1000 each month you have to pay too. For me it was just on the edge - a 10% overrun would have be death. Your budget may be different.
October 12, 2010 at 6:55 AM #617274permabearParticipantI just went through this exercise in the Santaluz area and decided not to build. I spoke with several architects, and all of them told me $200-250 was more realistic.
Those contractors are likely lowballing you to get the job. I spoke with one who said $150, and then we went through the type of house, and finishes, etc, and it became $180… 200… 230…
What is your total budget? If you’re talking $1-1.2M, my conclusion was you can’t build a nice home for that, especially in that area. If you then go up a bit in price, I think 1.5M is definitely doable, but then there are also occasional deals like this too in that price range:
http://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Diego/7828-Santaluz-Inlt-92127/home/7447454
I ran a whole excel spreadsheet and figured the house would have to be about 3000 sq ft and the land < 300k, and then you could hit $1-1.2M realistically. But remember there's that extra $1000 each month you have to pay too. For me it was just on the edge - a 10% overrun would have be death. Your budget may be different.
October 12, 2010 at 6:55 AM #616960permabearParticipantI just went through this exercise in the Santaluz area and decided not to build. I spoke with several architects, and all of them told me $200-250 was more realistic.
Those contractors are likely lowballing you to get the job. I spoke with one who said $150, and then we went through the type of house, and finishes, etc, and it became $180… 200… 230…
What is your total budget? If you’re talking $1-1.2M, my conclusion was you can’t build a nice home for that, especially in that area. If you then go up a bit in price, I think 1.5M is definitely doable, but then there are also occasional deals like this too in that price range:
http://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Diego/7828-Santaluz-Inlt-92127/home/7447454
I ran a whole excel spreadsheet and figured the house would have to be about 3000 sq ft and the land < 300k, and then you could hit $1-1.2M realistically. But remember there's that extra $1000 each month you have to pay too. For me it was just on the edge - a 10% overrun would have be death. Your budget may be different.
October 12, 2010 at 6:55 AM #616845permabearParticipantI just went through this exercise in the Santaluz area and decided not to build. I spoke with several architects, and all of them told me $200-250 was more realistic.
Those contractors are likely lowballing you to get the job. I spoke with one who said $150, and then we went through the type of house, and finishes, etc, and it became $180… 200… 230…
What is your total budget? If you’re talking $1-1.2M, my conclusion was you can’t build a nice home for that, especially in that area. If you then go up a bit in price, I think 1.5M is definitely doable, but then there are also occasional deals like this too in that price range:
http://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Diego/7828-Santaluz-Inlt-92127/home/7447454
I ran a whole excel spreadsheet and figured the house would have to be about 3000 sq ft and the land < 300k, and then you could hit $1-1.2M realistically. But remember there's that extra $1000 each month you have to pay too. For me it was just on the edge - a 10% overrun would have be death. Your budget may be different.
October 12, 2010 at 6:55 AM #616294permabearParticipantI just went through this exercise in the Santaluz area and decided not to build. I spoke with several architects, and all of them told me $200-250 was more realistic.
Those contractors are likely lowballing you to get the job. I spoke with one who said $150, and then we went through the type of house, and finishes, etc, and it became $180… 200… 230…
What is your total budget? If you’re talking $1-1.2M, my conclusion was you can’t build a nice home for that, especially in that area. If you then go up a bit in price, I think 1.5M is definitely doable, but then there are also occasional deals like this too in that price range:
http://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Diego/7828-Santaluz-Inlt-92127/home/7447454
I ran a whole excel spreadsheet and figured the house would have to be about 3000 sq ft and the land < 300k, and then you could hit $1-1.2M realistically. But remember there's that extra $1000 each month you have to pay too. For me it was just on the edge - a 10% overrun would have be death. Your budget may be different.
October 12, 2010 at 10:15 AM #616390sdcellarParticipantAs I understand it, you have to build like an 18-inch thick wall to conform to their architectural guidelines. This means that each wall has to actually be two walls; i.e. it comes down to building a house within a house.
So, the first thing I’d ask your contractors is if they understand simply framing the place will require twice the “typical” amount of wood.
There are, of course, higher end finishes required on pretty much everything thing else starting with windows and doors and then working inward, so the costs just continue to add up, but really, just start with the 18-inch walls and see if the story changes.
October 12, 2010 at 10:15 AM #617369sdcellarParticipantAs I understand it, you have to build like an 18-inch thick wall to conform to their architectural guidelines. This means that each wall has to actually be two walls; i.e. it comes down to building a house within a house.
So, the first thing I’d ask your contractors is if they understand simply framing the place will require twice the “typical” amount of wood.
There are, of course, higher end finishes required on pretty much everything thing else starting with windows and doors and then working inward, so the costs just continue to add up, but really, just start with the 18-inch walls and see if the story changes.
October 12, 2010 at 10:15 AM #616935sdcellarParticipantAs I understand it, you have to build like an 18-inch thick wall to conform to their architectural guidelines. This means that each wall has to actually be two walls; i.e. it comes down to building a house within a house.
So, the first thing I’d ask your contractors is if they understand simply framing the place will require twice the “typical” amount of wood.
There are, of course, higher end finishes required on pretty much everything thing else starting with windows and doors and then working inward, so the costs just continue to add up, but really, just start with the 18-inch walls and see if the story changes.
October 12, 2010 at 10:15 AM #616302sdcellarParticipantAs I understand it, you have to build like an 18-inch thick wall to conform to their architectural guidelines. This means that each wall has to actually be two walls; i.e. it comes down to building a house within a house.
So, the first thing I’d ask your contractors is if they understand simply framing the place will require twice the “typical” amount of wood.
There are, of course, higher end finishes required on pretty much everything thing else starting with windows and doors and then working inward, so the costs just continue to add up, but really, just start with the 18-inch walls and see if the story changes.
October 12, 2010 at 10:15 AM #617053sdcellarParticipantAs I understand it, you have to build like an 18-inch thick wall to conform to their architectural guidelines. This means that each wall has to actually be two walls; i.e. it comes down to building a house within a house.
So, the first thing I’d ask your contractors is if they understand simply framing the place will require twice the “typical” amount of wood.
There are, of course, higher end finishes required on pretty much everything thing else starting with windows and doors and then working inward, so the costs just continue to add up, but really, just start with the 18-inch walls and see if the story changes.
October 12, 2010 at 1:40 PM #617340permabearParticipant[quote=sdcellar]As I understand it, you have to build like an 18-inch thick wall to conform to their architectural guidelines. This means that each wall has to actually be two walls; i.e. it comes down to building a house within a house.[/quote]
Yeah, that’s a biggie. They’re strict with their authentic Spanish hacienda rules. Also, they will hold your plans from 6 months – 2 years before letting you build, to vett them.
You may want to stop by the Baywood Collection. They have paint-by-numbers custom homes that they’ll build on any Santaluz lot. It’s useful because they can give you a sense for budget. They lowered their prices so it’s about $1.3M for a 4000 sq ft home, so $325/ft.
October 12, 2010 at 1:40 PM #616589permabearParticipant[quote=sdcellar]As I understand it, you have to build like an 18-inch thick wall to conform to their architectural guidelines. This means that each wall has to actually be two walls; i.e. it comes down to building a house within a house.[/quote]
Yeah, that’s a biggie. They’re strict with their authentic Spanish hacienda rules. Also, they will hold your plans from 6 months – 2 years before letting you build, to vett them.
You may want to stop by the Baywood Collection. They have paint-by-numbers custom homes that they’ll build on any Santaluz lot. It’s useful because they can give you a sense for budget. They lowered their prices so it’s about $1.3M for a 4000 sq ft home, so $325/ft.
October 12, 2010 at 1:40 PM #617650permabearParticipant[quote=sdcellar]As I understand it, you have to build like an 18-inch thick wall to conform to their architectural guidelines. This means that each wall has to actually be two walls; i.e. it comes down to building a house within a house.[/quote]
Yeah, that’s a biggie. They’re strict with their authentic Spanish hacienda rules. Also, they will hold your plans from 6 months – 2 years before letting you build, to vett them.
You may want to stop by the Baywood Collection. They have paint-by-numbers custom homes that they’ll build on any Santaluz lot. It’s useful because they can give you a sense for budget. They lowered their prices so it’s about $1.3M for a 4000 sq ft home, so $325/ft.
October 12, 2010 at 1:40 PM #617218permabearParticipant[quote=sdcellar]As I understand it, you have to build like an 18-inch thick wall to conform to their architectural guidelines. This means that each wall has to actually be two walls; i.e. it comes down to building a house within a house.[/quote]
Yeah, that’s a biggie. They’re strict with their authentic Spanish hacienda rules. Also, they will hold your plans from 6 months – 2 years before letting you build, to vett them.
You may want to stop by the Baywood Collection. They have paint-by-numbers custom homes that they’ll build on any Santaluz lot. It’s useful because they can give you a sense for budget. They lowered their prices so it’s about $1.3M for a 4000 sq ft home, so $325/ft.
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