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May 28, 2009 at 6:48 AM #406793May 28, 2009 at 7:51 AM #406813carlsbadworkerParticipant
[quote=jpinpb]The only job that will be secure are those that demand be physically done here. [/quote]
Although that is true, but eventually when all other jobs are gone, the salary of these “secured” jobs can command will also drop. But there is nothing unfair about it. A good job is not an unalienable right of US born citizen. If someone can do the same job at a lower salary, the opportunity should be given to them. If a country manipulates the currency so that the salary is low, it will without a doubt face trade surplus and have to use their excessive trading surplus to lower the cost of the money of the country that has the biggest trading deficit. So people in those country can afford to buy things at lower salary.
That’s the cycle of globalization. It improves the living standard of the average people… unless, of course you are the unfortunate soul that are out of job because of your skills are insufficient to compete in the global job market. Otherwise, if you really want a job, you can at least migrate to the currency-manipulated country, and have a very decent life there.May 28, 2009 at 7:51 AM #407120carlsbadworkerParticipant[quote=jpinpb]The only job that will be secure are those that demand be physically done here. [/quote]
Although that is true, but eventually when all other jobs are gone, the salary of these “secured” jobs can command will also drop. But there is nothing unfair about it. A good job is not an unalienable right of US born citizen. If someone can do the same job at a lower salary, the opportunity should be given to them. If a country manipulates the currency so that the salary is low, it will without a doubt face trade surplus and have to use their excessive trading surplus to lower the cost of the money of the country that has the biggest trading deficit. So people in those country can afford to buy things at lower salary.
That’s the cycle of globalization. It improves the living standard of the average people… unless, of course you are the unfortunate soul that are out of job because of your skills are insufficient to compete in the global job market. Otherwise, if you really want a job, you can at least migrate to the currency-manipulated country, and have a very decent life there.May 28, 2009 at 7:51 AM #406570carlsbadworkerParticipant[quote=jpinpb]The only job that will be secure are those that demand be physically done here. [/quote]
Although that is true, but eventually when all other jobs are gone, the salary of these “secured” jobs can command will also drop. But there is nothing unfair about it. A good job is not an unalienable right of US born citizen. If someone can do the same job at a lower salary, the opportunity should be given to them. If a country manipulates the currency so that the salary is low, it will without a doubt face trade surplus and have to use their excessive trading surplus to lower the cost of the money of the country that has the biggest trading deficit. So people in those country can afford to buy things at lower salary.
That’s the cycle of globalization. It improves the living standard of the average people… unless, of course you are the unfortunate soul that are out of job because of your skills are insufficient to compete in the global job market. Otherwise, if you really want a job, you can at least migrate to the currency-manipulated country, and have a very decent life there.May 28, 2009 at 7:51 AM #407266carlsbadworkerParticipant[quote=jpinpb]The only job that will be secure are those that demand be physically done here. [/quote]
Although that is true, but eventually when all other jobs are gone, the salary of these “secured” jobs can command will also drop. But there is nothing unfair about it. A good job is not an unalienable right of US born citizen. If someone can do the same job at a lower salary, the opportunity should be given to them. If a country manipulates the currency so that the salary is low, it will without a doubt face trade surplus and have to use their excessive trading surplus to lower the cost of the money of the country that has the biggest trading deficit. So people in those country can afford to buy things at lower salary.
That’s the cycle of globalization. It improves the living standard of the average people… unless, of course you are the unfortunate soul that are out of job because of your skills are insufficient to compete in the global job market. Otherwise, if you really want a job, you can at least migrate to the currency-manipulated country, and have a very decent life there.May 28, 2009 at 7:51 AM #407057carlsbadworkerParticipant[quote=jpinpb]The only job that will be secure are those that demand be physically done here. [/quote]
Although that is true, but eventually when all other jobs are gone, the salary of these “secured” jobs can command will also drop. But there is nothing unfair about it. A good job is not an unalienable right of US born citizen. If someone can do the same job at a lower salary, the opportunity should be given to them. If a country manipulates the currency so that the salary is low, it will without a doubt face trade surplus and have to use their excessive trading surplus to lower the cost of the money of the country that has the biggest trading deficit. So people in those country can afford to buy things at lower salary.
That’s the cycle of globalization. It improves the living standard of the average people… unless, of course you are the unfortunate soul that are out of job because of your skills are insufficient to compete in the global job market. Otherwise, if you really want a job, you can at least migrate to the currency-manipulated country, and have a very decent life there.May 28, 2009 at 8:58 AM #406823blahblahblahParticipantOtherwise, if you really want a job, you can at least migrate to the currency-manipulated country, and have a very decent life there.
Hohoho I love this answer. How many people do you really think have the ability to pack up their life and move to another country? Especially those in the position of “needing a job”. Most of those people don’t have enough money to hire an immigration attorney, get a work visa, buy tickets, set themselves up in another country, move their families, learn a new language, find a job there, etc… And even if they could, what would happen if people started doing this en masse? And more importantly — how many countries even allow people to immigrate? Most of the countries that have liberal immigration policies (US, Australia, Western Europe) are the ones that are losing jobs to Asian countries anyway.
Perhaps I will move to Bangalore when my job gets outsourced — oh wait then I would still be competing with the same guys that my job was outsourced to. Whoops. Better learn how to fix cars instead…
May 28, 2009 at 8:58 AM #407129blahblahblahParticipantOtherwise, if you really want a job, you can at least migrate to the currency-manipulated country, and have a very decent life there.
Hohoho I love this answer. How many people do you really think have the ability to pack up their life and move to another country? Especially those in the position of “needing a job”. Most of those people don’t have enough money to hire an immigration attorney, get a work visa, buy tickets, set themselves up in another country, move their families, learn a new language, find a job there, etc… And even if they could, what would happen if people started doing this en masse? And more importantly — how many countries even allow people to immigrate? Most of the countries that have liberal immigration policies (US, Australia, Western Europe) are the ones that are losing jobs to Asian countries anyway.
Perhaps I will move to Bangalore when my job gets outsourced — oh wait then I would still be competing with the same guys that my job was outsourced to. Whoops. Better learn how to fix cars instead…
May 28, 2009 at 8:58 AM #406580blahblahblahParticipantOtherwise, if you really want a job, you can at least migrate to the currency-manipulated country, and have a very decent life there.
Hohoho I love this answer. How many people do you really think have the ability to pack up their life and move to another country? Especially those in the position of “needing a job”. Most of those people don’t have enough money to hire an immigration attorney, get a work visa, buy tickets, set themselves up in another country, move their families, learn a new language, find a job there, etc… And even if they could, what would happen if people started doing this en masse? And more importantly — how many countries even allow people to immigrate? Most of the countries that have liberal immigration policies (US, Australia, Western Europe) are the ones that are losing jobs to Asian countries anyway.
Perhaps I will move to Bangalore when my job gets outsourced — oh wait then I would still be competing with the same guys that my job was outsourced to. Whoops. Better learn how to fix cars instead…
May 28, 2009 at 8:58 AM #407067blahblahblahParticipantOtherwise, if you really want a job, you can at least migrate to the currency-manipulated country, and have a very decent life there.
Hohoho I love this answer. How many people do you really think have the ability to pack up their life and move to another country? Especially those in the position of “needing a job”. Most of those people don’t have enough money to hire an immigration attorney, get a work visa, buy tickets, set themselves up in another country, move their families, learn a new language, find a job there, etc… And even if they could, what would happen if people started doing this en masse? And more importantly — how many countries even allow people to immigrate? Most of the countries that have liberal immigration policies (US, Australia, Western Europe) are the ones that are losing jobs to Asian countries anyway.
Perhaps I will move to Bangalore when my job gets outsourced — oh wait then I would still be competing with the same guys that my job was outsourced to. Whoops. Better learn how to fix cars instead…
May 28, 2009 at 8:58 AM #407276blahblahblahParticipantOtherwise, if you really want a job, you can at least migrate to the currency-manipulated country, and have a very decent life there.
Hohoho I love this answer. How many people do you really think have the ability to pack up their life and move to another country? Especially those in the position of “needing a job”. Most of those people don’t have enough money to hire an immigration attorney, get a work visa, buy tickets, set themselves up in another country, move their families, learn a new language, find a job there, etc… And even if they could, what would happen if people started doing this en masse? And more importantly — how many countries even allow people to immigrate? Most of the countries that have liberal immigration policies (US, Australia, Western Europe) are the ones that are losing jobs to Asian countries anyway.
Perhaps I will move to Bangalore when my job gets outsourced — oh wait then I would still be competing with the same guys that my job was outsourced to. Whoops. Better learn how to fix cars instead…
May 28, 2009 at 9:15 AM #407072peterbParticipantAnyne who complains about govt subsidies and intervention should take a good look around at their world here in the US.
Fanny, Freddie and the GI Bill changed life for the masses in the USA. A college education and home ownership were very rare things before the govt got involved.
And the masses involvement in the stock market kicked in with the IRA plan that was created.
Check this against human history. It’s amazing what’s been created in 70 years!I may be very bearish about our current circumstances, but I wont fool myself about the opportunities here and what’s been created. So, as big and bloated and corrupt as we may like to portray the govt and its activities, it’s done a far better than average job trying to get j6p into a higher standard of living or at least the opportunity to attain it.
May 28, 2009 at 9:15 AM #407281peterbParticipantAnyne who complains about govt subsidies and intervention should take a good look around at their world here in the US.
Fanny, Freddie and the GI Bill changed life for the masses in the USA. A college education and home ownership were very rare things before the govt got involved.
And the masses involvement in the stock market kicked in with the IRA plan that was created.
Check this against human history. It’s amazing what’s been created in 70 years!I may be very bearish about our current circumstances, but I wont fool myself about the opportunities here and what’s been created. So, as big and bloated and corrupt as we may like to portray the govt and its activities, it’s done a far better than average job trying to get j6p into a higher standard of living or at least the opportunity to attain it.
May 28, 2009 at 9:15 AM #406828peterbParticipantAnyne who complains about govt subsidies and intervention should take a good look around at their world here in the US.
Fanny, Freddie and the GI Bill changed life for the masses in the USA. A college education and home ownership were very rare things before the govt got involved.
And the masses involvement in the stock market kicked in with the IRA plan that was created.
Check this against human history. It’s amazing what’s been created in 70 years!I may be very bearish about our current circumstances, but I wont fool myself about the opportunities here and what’s been created. So, as big and bloated and corrupt as we may like to portray the govt and its activities, it’s done a far better than average job trying to get j6p into a higher standard of living or at least the opportunity to attain it.
May 28, 2009 at 9:15 AM #407134peterbParticipantAnyne who complains about govt subsidies and intervention should take a good look around at their world here in the US.
Fanny, Freddie and the GI Bill changed life for the masses in the USA. A college education and home ownership were very rare things before the govt got involved.
And the masses involvement in the stock market kicked in with the IRA plan that was created.
Check this against human history. It’s amazing what’s been created in 70 years!I may be very bearish about our current circumstances, but I wont fool myself about the opportunities here and what’s been created. So, as big and bloated and corrupt as we may like to portray the govt and its activities, it’s done a far better than average job trying to get j6p into a higher standard of living or at least the opportunity to attain it.
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