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September 7, 2007 at 6:48 PM #10204September 7, 2007 at 8:34 PM #83828kev374Participant
I first thought it was a misprint and was 1200 jobs but nope, it’s 12k and i’ve heard there are more to come if conditions worsen and we all know what’s ahead of us…
all I can say at this point is WOW!
On a positive note, Countrywide is doing the right thing by aligning themselves to the market so at least they will not go out of business! I feel if they need to cut 60% of their workforce to reflect market conditions then they will!
September 7, 2007 at 8:51 PM #83830bubble_contagionParticipantA couple of days back they said 900, now it will be 12,000 more. This gives you an idea of how quickly things are changing. Good they waited after market close to release the news. Imagine this on top of today’s the very week employment numbers that tumbled the markets.
September 8, 2007 at 1:51 AM #83847bob007Participanthow many ppl did countrywide employ in 2002 ?
September 8, 2007 at 1:20 PM #83873kev374ParticipantCountrywide has 61,000 employees, so 12,000 is 20% of their workforce. Still pretty drastic and there is more to come, probably 12-15,000 additional layoffs because if you think we’re having bad times now wait till 2008.. it’s going to be a total MESS!
September 8, 2007 at 1:36 PM #83875patientlywaitingParticipant12,000 is only the beginning. Countrywide needs to layoff 40,000, shrink and right-size in order to survive.
Look for Thousand Oaks to be hammered. It’s very Carmel Valley like to me.
Amgen and Countrywide both laying off.
Note that this NPR report is before the 12,000 layoff announcement.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=13972673Once the venture capital dries up and more and more drugs go generic, the biotech sector will be hit hard.
This is only the beginning of layoff induced hard times.
1. Subprime = price drops
2. Alt-A = more price drops
3. Prime = more price drops
4. Fraud and Lies = more price drops
5. Foreclosures to market = more price drops
6. Layoffs = more price drops
7. More foreclosures = more price dropsSeptember 8, 2007 at 1:50 PM #83876kewpParticipant7. More foreclosures = more price drops
8. More price drops = more foreclosures
9. GOTO 7September 8, 2007 at 3:19 PM #83884JWM in SDParticipant“This is only the beginning of layoff induced hard times.
1. Subprime = price drops
2. Alt-A = more price drops
3. Prime = more price drops
4. Fraud and Lies = more price drops
5. Foreclosures to market = more price drops
6. Layoffs = more price drops
7. More foreclosures = more price dropsYep, that is why it is stupid to think that 50% off peak is not possible in SoCal and specifically San Diego. There will be overcorrection to the other side of the mean. To think otherwise is nieve at best and myopic at worst.
September 9, 2007 at 10:10 AM #83924eyePodParticipantCountrwide has annouced this – it is no longer merely a possibility.
September 9, 2007 at 2:52 PM #83954waiting hawkParticipant“how many ppl did countrywide employ in 2002 ?”
Bob has the greatest question. Over correction would be 10-20% less workers than they had in 01-02 and telling you the mortgage mess is worse than we all would even think.
September 9, 2007 at 3:14 PM #83958crParticipantQuestion for the experts here:
Countrywide is offering the highest rates I can find on a CD right now 5.49%, min 10k, for 1 year.
It’s obvious they’re desperate for money, but how can they do this? Or more importantly, isn’t this quite a risk? Sure it’s FDIC insured, but what happens if you open a CD with CW and they go BK? Do you get your money back? Does FDIC pay you out? What about interest?
September 9, 2007 at 3:37 PM #83963bob007Participantwhat is the number ?
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