The cost of an Ivy League undergrad degree next year….

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=spdrun] all without debt.[/quote]

What is it with people on here being so against any debt?

Debt is leverage and the way (along with selling stock) to get wildly rich beyond your initial seed capital.

Generally, the richer the society, the higher the debt levels.
For example, rich people get multimillion dollar loans to buy houses, boats, planes, etc…

When assets/collateral lose too much value, the end result is bankruptcy. Too bad student debts can’t be discharged in bankruptcy. I think they’ll have to reform that if young families are so burdened by student debts that the overall economy suffers.[/quote]

the reform required is not bankruptcy. That’ll just send tuition upwards. The solution is shutting down the federal spigot of student loans

[Coronita]

[quote=AN]flu, UPenn is #1 Undergrad biz specialize in Finance. So, it’s obvious that it would carry some weight when you’re apply wall street. However, #3 is University of Michigan–Ann Arbor. Harvard is not even in the top 10. Do you think wall street would prefer Harvard over UMich?[/quote]

Actually, yes. Because there are a lot of people that go to Harvard on wall street. And wall street works like a fraternity. Hey, I don’t like it either, but that’s how the game works.

[flyer]

The variables other than education are the real deal breakers. Can’t tell you how many people I’ve known and my kids have known who got where they are via connections vs. education. In my kid’s case, even with great degrees, connections trumped education every time.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=deadzone]
2. “I can brag to my friends that my kid went to Harvard”

The #2 reason is total douche. But that seems to be the main argument from flyerinhi.[/quote]

Next time you brag about something, remember what you said.

Isn’t bragging about money uber douchy?

Like it or not, we all need and want social recognition. Seeking that recognition in anyway at all is total douche.

I personally am sick of people bragging about their gifted kids. Gifted in what way?! I’d be more impressed if people told me their kids are going to Princeton or Harvard.

[spdrun]

… and restoring previous levels of PUBLIC funding for PUBLIC universities. Take the money from Homeland Security and War on Drugs bullshit programs if need be.

I’d rather see outright funding to the universities than students being forced to take on loans. Yeah, yeah, spending on social programs is so old-fashioned in 2015…

[Coronita]

I’m going to draw this back again to cars and hijack my own thread that I created.

Colleges are a lot like cars.

Porsche is a better car than a BMW, because a Porsche will always be a Porsche, not matter how much BMW tries to make an M better than a Porsche. 10-15% of the population can afford to drive a porsche. Out of that, maybe 25% of the population do so because they plan on utilizing that porsche for how it’s meant to be used. The remaining 75% of buyers buy a Porsche just because it’s a Porsche, including those that buy a Cayenne Turbo (the Porsche SUV, which is the most ridiculous thing)

The remaining 85-90% of the population that can’t afford the Porsche, probably 50% of them wouldn’t mind having one if money wasn’t an issue, but due to budget constraints, still drive a piece of shit miata. And no matter how much those people spend supercharging a miata, and even though it might come very close to a porsche… It’s still just a piece of shit miata.

[spdrun]

Hey! My former Miata takes issue at the last line!

[an]

Also, allow JC to offer 4 years degrees.

[spdrun]

They can now, if they meet appropriate standards. Unless you propose to water down the standards for a degree. In that case, NO THANKS!

[Coronita]

[quote=spdrun]Hey! My former Miata takes issue at the last line![/quote]

I’m sure mine does too. That’s probably why it barfed this week…I hope I didn’t blow a head gasket…Piece of shit.

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Oh well, time to make room..

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See, if I actually got into Harvard instead of a lesser Ivy League, I could show you pictures of my Porsche…instead of my piece of shit miata…

QED.

[flyer]

[quote=flu][quote=AN]flu, UPenn is #1 Undergrad biz specialize in Finance. So, it’s obvious that it would carry some weight when you’re apply wall street. However, #3 is University of Michigan–Ann Arbor. Harvard is not even in the top 10. Do you think wall street would prefer Harvard over UMich?[/quote]

Actually, yes. Because there are a lot of people that go to Harvard on wall street. And wall street works like a fraternity. Hey, I don’t like it either, but that’s how the game works.[/quote]

Exactly to my point about how connections trump education in many, many cases.

[scaredyclassic]

My fancy ivy league pedigree paid for by my folks made my mom very angry that I was sending my kid to SDSU. Hell I wouldn’t even let him apply anywhere expensive. She felt like I was being a cheapskate and not paying forward what I got.

The kid was cool with that. Kids are OK with some direction.

Prestige. Held me back in some ways. I should’ve been in a state school.

[Coronita]

[quote=flyer][quote=flu][quote=AN]flu, UPenn is #1 Undergrad biz specialize in Finance. So, it’s obvious that it would carry some weight when you’re apply wall street. However, #3 is University of Michigan–Ann Arbor. Harvard is not even in the top 10. Do you think wall street would prefer Harvard over UMich?[/quote]

Actually, yes. Because there are a lot of people that go to Harvard on wall street. And wall street works like a fraternity. Hey, I don’t like it either, but that’s how the game works.[/quote]

Exactly to my point about how connections trump education in many, many cases.[/quote]

I won’t disagree with you there. there is definitely that angle to it too.

[spdrun]

[quote=flu]I’m sure mine does too. That’s probably why it barfed this week…I hope I didn’t blow a head gasket…Piece of shit.[/quote]

It was probably angry that you posted a picture of its engine the wrong way around and blew a gasket. Your fault.

“WHAT! MAKING IT LOOK LIKE I HAVE A TRANSVERSE ENGINE! LIKE SOME DAMN TOYO…GAAACK!”

[Coronita]

[quote=scaredyclassic]My fancy ivy league pedigree paid for by my folks made my mom very angry that I was sending my kid to SDSU. Hell I wouldn’t even let him apply anywhere expensive. She felt like I was being a cheapskate and not paying forward what I got.

The kid was cool with that. Kids are OK with some direction.

Prestige. Held me back in some ways. I should’ve been in a state school.[/quote]

I’m not quite sure why I went in hindsight. I guess I just wanted to get out of CA and try something different. In hindsight, probably not the smartest move for engineering.

Anyway, my kid decided she wanted to be a fashion designer and at one point wanted to be a professional cheerleader. I think we settled on fiction novelist for the time being.

So why I’m talking or worried about Ivy League school is beyond me…..

I guess karma is circling back around and paying me a visit despite all the things I say about how great STEMs should be for kids…lol….

Ai-Yah!

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