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June 2, 2020 at 8:05 AM #817789June 2, 2020 at 1:33 PM #817797
CoronitaParticipant[quote=ltsddd]Before this month is over. We’ll be hearing ventilators again and again and again. All those in-your-face shouting is exactly what not to do wrt the coronavirus. We should all learn to protest like Gandhi did.[/quote]
I’m not so sure about this.
1. More companies are making ventilators, so in a few months, we should have more supply. (Ford and GM for example are making them).
2. I thought doctors are now trying to avoid putting people on ventilators because there’s questions as to whether they are helping since a large percentage of people who go on ventilators end up dying…And even the ones that survive have long term issues from being on them…
This might bode for the opposite outcome for companies that count on making ventilators. A lot more supply, reduced demand ?
June 2, 2020 at 2:06 PM #817799ltsddd
ParticipantI don’t think ventilators will kill you. It’s just that if a patient reaches a point where they need ventilators then the probably of dying go up due to their poor general health (underlying health conditions). If someone needs a ventilator then they got to have a ventilator, I don’t think they have a choice – either don’t go on it and die now or go on it and have a fighting chance.
What I am trying to say is all of a sudden people don’t seem to be too concerned about the virus – including the media from left to right. SMH
June 2, 2020 at 2:22 PM #817801CoronitaParticipant[quote=ltsddd]I don’t think ventilators will kill you. It’s just that if a patient reaches a point where they need ventilators then the probably of dying go up due to their poor general health (underlying health conditions). If someone needs a ventilator then they got to have a ventilator, I don’t think they have a choice – either don’t go on it and die now or go on it and have a fighting chance.
What I am trying to say is all of a sudden people don’t seem to be too concerned about the virus – including the media from left to right. SMH[/quote]
June 2, 2020 at 2:44 PM #817803scaredyclassic
Participantinteresting re; ventilators.
I read a very stirring personal account about a covid experience in THE SUN magazine.
https://www.thesunmagazine.org/issues/534/just-this-breath
She’s a longtime meditator which often involves concentration on breathing.
she describes the difficulty breathing she had in paintful excruciating detail and the help she got from her meditation practice. quelling panic from not getting much o2. etc.
seems like she was right on the edge of being eligible for a ventilator.
frankly it was inspirational. i hope not to be put to the test, but there may be ways for us to care for our own breathing that could help us avoid being put on a ventilator,which frankly, if I can possibly avoid, I would really like to avoid.
this might be a good time to focus on our breathing meditation.
June 2, 2020 at 3:20 PM #817804CoronitaParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]interesting re; ventilators.
I read a very stirring personal account about a covid experience in THE SUN magazine.
https://www.thesunmagazine.org/issues/534/just-this-breath
She’s a longtime meditator which often involves concentration on breathing.
she describes the difficulty breathing she had in paintful excruciating detail and the help she got from her meditation practice. quelling panic from not getting much o2. etc.
seems like she was right on the edge of being eligible for a ventilator.
frankly it was inspirational. i hope not to be put to the test, but there may be ways for us to care for our own breathing that could help us avoid being put on a ventilator,which frankly, if I can possibly avoid, I would really like to avoid.
this might be a good time to focus on our breathing meditation.[/quote]
This might explain why some people who are in better shape are surviving better. It’s maybe not be simply obesity itself, maybe it’s closer to the oxygen lung capacity. What I mean, is if you take someone that does a lot of cardio, his/her lung capacity is probably significantly more than someone that doesn’t do cardio. That extra capacity for oxygen might be what is allowing someone to survive covid versus someone who cant get enough oxygen. Same thing could be said for smokers. Unfortunately, this doesn’t bode well for people with asthma. And for someone that just goes to the gym to lift weights without doing cardio, that probably won’t help that much either in increasing your chances of winning over covid.
Don’t quit your 2-3 miles run each day.
I did the Potato Chip @ Mt Woodson hike over the weekend. 2.5 hours around the back. A 48 year old woman in our group *ran* the entire Potato Chip backtrail in 1 1/2 hr wearing a mask and didn’t even complain about being tired in the end. That was impressive. If you ever tried running with a mask on, it makes a pretty big difference assuming you are wearing it correctly.
ltsdd. Some are suspecting that the ventilators are not helping people and could cause lung damage, so some doctors are trying to avoid using them. In many cases, they are trying much milder things such as CPAP and oxygen concentrators…which is why I bought one before restrictions went into place on purchasing these.
June 2, 2020 at 3:27 PM #817806The-Shoveler
ParticipantMarket just seem wrong somehow.
IMO seems we are just one missed stimulus or something from falling off an economic cliff but then again what do I know.
June 2, 2020 at 3:27 PM #817805CoronitaParticipantAlso…Looks like housing in SD is doing ok… No crash and burn, as I guess some were expecting and hoping.
June 2, 2020 at 3:29 PM #817807ParticipantJune 2, 2020 at 3:32 PM #817808CoronitaParticipant[quote=The-Shoveler]Market just seem wrong somehow.
IMO seems we are just one missed stimulus or something from falling off an economic cliff but then again what do I know.[/quote]
Not sure. I’m wondering if the people who were financially prepared to buy a house here pre-covid were really drastically different financially now. I suspect they probably weren’t really financially impacted by covid.
Maybe now even a little better, because they can now find a loan at even a lower rate.
Like I was saying before, I think SD probably has diversified somewhat from the standard tourism industry, unlike other places. And there’s a pretty large biotech presence here which probably is doing very well. Isn’t one of the major ventilator companies manufacturing in Escondido?
I’m a little surprised myself, because I thought there would at least be some hit. But from what it appears, activity is bustling.
June 2, 2020 at 3:34 PM #817809Participant[quote=Coronita][quote=The-Shoveler]Market just seem wrong somehow.
IMO seems we are just one missed stimulus or something from falling off an economic cliff but then again what do I know.[/quote]
Not sure. I’m wondering if the people who were financially prepared to buy a house here pre-covid were really drastically different financially now. I suspect they probably weren’t really financially impacted by covid.
Maybe now even a little better, because they can now find a loan at even a lower rate.
Like I was saying before, I think SD probably has diversified somewhat from the standard tourism industry, unlike other places. And there’s a pretty large biotech presence here which probably is doing very well. Isn’t one of the major ventilator companies manufacturing in Escondido?[/quote]
Maybe SD RE is doing better as Work at home renters ect.. join the escape LA crowd.
June 2, 2020 at 3:37 PM #817810outtamojo
Participant[quote=The-Shoveler]Market just seem wrong somehow.
IMO seems we are just one missed stimulus or something from falling off an economic cliff but then again what do I know.[/quote]
All that stimulus has to find a home somewhere.
I have a feeling construction materials gonna be in short supply. Flu better stock up on for his projects!
Don’t buy nothin on Ebay cause you will be supporting the looters.
June 2, 2020 at 4:00 PM #817812Participant[quote=The-Shoveler]Market just seem wrong somehow.
IMO seems we are just one missed stimulus or something from falling off an economic cliff but then again what do I know.[/quote]
There is an article by Barron’s that talked about the lack of breadth during the recent run-up. The top 10 companies – msft, aapl, amzn, fb, intc, csco… added about $900 billion to their market cap while the other 2600 companies shed about $300 billion. That’s quite a divergence. It doesn’t seem right. We all should just roll with it.
June 2, 2020 at 4:01 PM #817811CoronitaParticipant[quote=outtamojo][quote=The-Shoveler]Market just seem wrong somehow.
IMO seems we are just one missed stimulus or something from falling off an economic cliff but then again what do I know.[/quote]
All that stimulus has to find a home somewhere.
I have a feeling construction materials gonna be in short supply. Flu better stock up on for his projects!
Don’t buy nothin on Ebay cause you will be supporting the looters.[/quote]
Heh heh. I was just about to go to the lumber store to buy gate door material and put it on my unemployment debit card that I just got, that has a balance for my Furlow Fridays $200 more each Friday than how much I would have made if I actually worked that day thanks to the extra $600/week federal UI benefit. That’s a lot more lumber I can buy, lol.
I hope the latest UI benefit bill gets passed which will give people a bonus to go back to work, so that I get paid a bonus to return back to work, which I need to anyway.
Eating government cheese on the way out. Eating government cheese on the way back in. lol.
June 2, 2020 at 4:03 PM #817813CoronitaParticipant[quote=ltsddd][quote=The-Shoveler]Market just seem wrong somehow.
IMO seems we are just one missed stimulus or something from falling off an economic cliff but then again what do I know.[/quote]
There is an article by Barron’s that talked about the lack of breadth during the recent run-up. The top 10 companies – msft, aapl, amzn, fb, intc, csco… added about $900 billion to their market cap while the other 2600 companies shed about $300 billion. That’s quite a divergence. It doesn’t seem right. We all should just roll with it.[/quote]
Probably makes a case for indexing.
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