Coronavirus Endgame

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=FlyerInHi]It comes back to: what’s a life worth?
Would be tolerate 10000 death in San Diego with hospitals overwhelmed for 1 week for $ billions in economic activity, and freedom of movement for the rest of the population?[/quote]

I’d say the average dead persons lifes worth about 700,000. So 10,000 kills is worth about 7 billion. Should get a bulk discount for all those corpses. Call it an even 5 billion. For at least 5billion and one dollar in economic activity, I’d say it’s a winning deal.

Death itself is a big business. 10000 caskets at 5000 each, 50 million right there. Hearses, preachers, headstones, booze 4 wakes, black clothing, etc.

[scaredyclassic]

I’d say my life right now is worth about 2.4 million in litigation. .But I’m probably overestimating because I’m so attached to my “self”. Lot of sentimental value to thoughts, memories, which are worthless.

Let’s face it. I cant keep working forever. My utility is small, kids are grown. Lot of mileage on me

The settlement will probably just get 1.3 or so. Not even a house in la jolla.

It’s just that I’m in such beautiful condition.

[scaredyclassic]

Nowadays, I’d say the average human has a negative value. Maybe I’ll need to pay to be culled

[FlyerInHi]

Scaredy, you have to add the value/utility of freedom of movement of the people who don’t die.

Maybe we should lay the data out there and let the invisible hand of the free market decide. People can make their own decisions and sacrifices.
My older cousin and her husband are locked inside the house. they don’t even visit their kids. They order everything online. She has developed mysophobia. The husband just goes along.

[phaster]

[quote=sdduuuude][quote=scaredyclassic]It is kind of a tough call. How much is a human life worth? Are the elderly Nonworking worth less?

How much suffering will society tolerate if the hospitals get overwhelmed.

A life really isnt worth much, dollar wise. In litigation, you get more for suffering, ongoing care than a nice quick death.

People are really kinda cheap. You cant buy em but if you kill one and it didn’t earn much, it’s not all that expensive. A nice house in SD is worth more[/quote]

I’m not suggesting we kill all the old people. Just keep them in isolation so the whole county doesn’t get put out, economically, to protect them.

San Diego has a total of about 2100 cases.
That many died in NY in the last three days.

There are seniors in high school who are deeply depressed. For them, a worse medical condition that if they contracted the virus.[/quote]

upon reading (what caught my eye) what came to mind was an editorial cartoon

AND thought that far too many don’t seem to have a grasp of the big picture

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Coronavirus: The Jewish Perspective

we live in a time of great technological advances

we live in a time where we believe almost blindly,…
in the powers of science and scientists (expert doctors)

and yet we are suddenly finding ourselves without a solution,… without a clue

…why would God allow such a virus, why would God allow such a pandemic

…we actually started to believe that life is about life is about going to school, going to work, going to parties, going to a theatre (for some entertainment), going shopping

…this virus is bringing, a fantastic opportunity to change the habits we’ve been trying or hoping to change

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyRyqQYQ8F4
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basically seems the way most people are dealing with this cluster fuck is lots of depression AND/OR finger pointing

or if one is uncomfortable w/ a religious framework, found a pop-psychology outline (that kinda sends the same message)

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What Can Children Learn From COVID-19

…this is the first national adversity they’ve ever experienced so they’re in unchartered waters. They’re disappointed with proms and school productions thwarted as well as field trips canceled. But from an educational perspective—all is not lost. This time is ripe to help students learn a few emotionally intelligent concepts from the COVID-19 crisis such as:

1) INNER IS ALWAYS GREATER THAN OUTER (At some point, a child gets the opportunity to “see” that within them is the power to overcome any obstacle, which normally would be a bully on the bus or broken leg, but today – it includes the COVID-19 epidemic.)

2) THIS IS TEMPORARY (Helping a child see the “bigger picture” and that today’s inconvenience and discomfort is temporary is going to help them move through this time. It doesn’t mean it’s easy, but helping your son or daughter recognize that in life—there are challenges, but they come and go is important.)

3) KINDNESS IS A PRACTICE (to self, and others)

4) HELP OTHERS (Every student that turns from “me, me, me” to “we, we, we” will have learned an invaluable lesson from this pandemic.)

5) EMOTIONAL TOOLBOX (everyone needs one!)

http://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/creative-development/202004/what-can-children-learn-covid-19
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basically as I read the tea leaves what we’re collectively experencing should be a sign that business/politics as usual was not sustainable,… AND we are where we are because of too much consumption and being enticed by slick marketing to believe that consumer goods are the answer to happiness

bottom line given that people have not learned or prepared to face head on various unpleasant topics, it really isn’t too big a surprise the global economy/society ended up in shit creek

[scaredyclassic]

Yep.

Tell ya what… today only, I’ll let you have this 27,000 casket for 6,400. Its gorgeous it’s beautiful I guarantee itll be better than anything your friends get buried in. Walnut trim. look at the burl. That’s class. You need it

But u need you to buy TODAY. Keep it in your garage. You’re making money on it every year, price goes up 5, 6% like clockwork . Just look at it, smile, itll make better returns than your stock portfolio…every year you live, it’s worth more, your saving more! You’re richer!

Can I put you down for 2?

Now, about embalming fluid. Gu outl need st least 5 gallons…

[scaredyclassic]

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[svelte]

When I was growing up, my father used to advocate doing away with the fire department.

His reasoning was that, for the amount we paid for firemen and fire equipment, we could replace every building that burned down and have money left over.

The fallacy in that position is that if it weren’t for fire departments and firemen, many more buildings would burn down and no doubt cost far more in life and property loss than what we pay for the fire department.

Think about that when you hear arguments about how low the death toll is so we should do away with restrictions. There is an analogy there…

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=scaredyclassic]Yep.

Tell ya what… today only, I’ll let you have this 27,000 casket for 6,400. Its gorgeous it’s beautiful I guarantee itll be better than anything your friends get buried in. Walnut trim. look at the burl. That’s class. You need it

But u need you to buy TODAY. Keep it in your garage. You’re making money on it every year, price goes up 5, 6% like clockwork . Just look at it, smile, itll make better returns than your stock portfolio…every year you live, it’s worth more, your saving more! You’re richer!

Can I put you down for 2?

Now, about embalming fluid. Gu outl need st least 5 gallons…[/quote]

It’s smart to buy caskets in advance. However I doubt the funeral home would allow you to bring your own. You have to buy from them. My parents are only getting the cheap ones. cardboard boxes would be ideal. Us kids have already decided.

[outtamojo]

[quote=svelte]When I was growing up, my father used to advocate doing away with the fire department.

His reasoning was that, for the amount we paid for firemen and fire equipment, we could replace every building that burned down and have money left over.

The fallacy in that position is that if it weren’t for fire departments and firemen, many more buildings would burn down and no doubt cost far more in life and property loss than what we pay for the fire department.

Think about that when you hear arguments about how low the death toll is so we should do away with restrictions. There is an analogy there…[/quote]

Yeah reminds me of that Head and Shoulders
Shampoo commercial:

“You use Head and Shoulders? But wait, you don’t have dandruff…

[outtamojo]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=scaredyclassic]Yep.

Tell ya what… today only, I’ll let you have this 27,000 casket for 6,400. Its gorgeous it’s beautiful I guarantee itll be better than anything your friends get buried in. Walnut trim. look at the burl. That’s class. You need it

But u need you to buy TODAY. Keep it in your garage. You’re making money on it every year, price goes up 5, 6% like clockwork . Just look at it, smile, itll make better returns than your stock portfolio…every year you live, it’s worth more, your saving more! You’re richer!

Can I put you down for 2?

Now, about embalming fluid. Gu outl need st least 5 gallons…[/quote]

It’s smart to buy caskets in advance. However I doubt the funeral home would allow you to bring your own. You have to buy from them. My parents are only getting the cheap ones. cardboard boxes would be ideal. Us kids have already decided.[/quote]

It’s the plot you should buy in advance. I think you can re-sell the plot too in some kind of secondary market

[FlyerInHi]

Yes, you can and should can buy plots in advance. My cousin bought 20 and is offering relatives to be buried together. Very generous of her. I think better for my parents to be buried with the old generation instead of alone in San Diego.

[svelte]

My dad bought plots for everyone in the family that wanted one in Northern California. I opted out. Cremation is the path for me. Much cheaper and doesn’t take up land.

I didn’t realize it at the time, but he held the titles for those plots and they are now in my possession. Guess I have to distribute them here soon, not sure why he hadn’t done that before.

Seems me to they say you have to transfer the plot title to have someone else buried there other than the named individual on the title, but then again I didn’t read it that closely.

[outtamojo]

This could open us up, keeping fingers crossed
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/16/sp-500-etf-jumps-2percent-after-hours-on-report-gilead-drug-showing-effectiveness-treating-coronavirus.html

[FlyerInHi]

Yeah. Cremation is a lot cleaner. In my family we cremate then bury.
Personally, I think when you’re dead, that’s all there is. Might a well scatter the ashes somewhere…. but others are more traditional.
My cousin is friends with the father at the church and invites him to Sunday brunch regularly. She follows the rituals.
I feel it’s such a waste to spend money on fancy casket and funeral. Better to give the money to the young generation who can use it.

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