Common sense

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=pri_dk]
How many times does the words Jesus Christ, Christian, or the Bible appear in the Constitution or the Federalist Papers?

Why did the Founders use words like “Providence” and “Almighty” instead of directly referencing Christ?

The world is not as simple as you’d like it to be.[/quote]

Pri: Nor is it as simple as you’re making it out to be, either. The Founding Fathers were Deists and did believe in God, but were very wary of a state-sponsored religion, especially after George III and the Church of England.

To that end, you’ll note that caution in their writings, while they also express a belief in God, albeit not a God as represented by any specific faith or creed.

Whether you like it or not, this country was indeed founded on Judeo-Christian principles, and those principles are reflected in not only their writings, but the underpinnings of our legal system as well.

[NotCranky]

I have to admit though, when I saw the title to this thread I thought we were going to discuss Thomas Paine. Jesus did not spark the American Revolution and perhaps Mohamed is nowhere near Cairo at this time.Where is that angel Gabriel when you need him? Justice is the same everywhere and lacking nearly to the same degree everywhere with minor vagaries of time, power and place. Religion interferes with this truth.

[NotCranky]

I have to admit though, when I saw the title to this thread I thought we were going to discuss Thomas Paine. Jesus did not spark the American Revolution and perhaps Mohamed is nowhere near Cairo at this time.Where is that angel Gabriel when you need him? Justice is the same everywhere and lacking nearly to the same degree everywhere with minor vagaries of time, power and place. Religion interferes with this truth.

[NotCranky]

I have to admit though, when I saw the title to this thread I thought we were going to discuss Thomas Paine. Jesus did not spark the American Revolution and perhaps Mohamed is nowhere near Cairo at this time.Where is that angel Gabriel when you need him? Justice is the same everywhere and lacking nearly to the same degree everywhere with minor vagaries of time, power and place. Religion interferes with this truth.

[NotCranky]

I have to admit though, when I saw the title to this thread I thought we were going to discuss Thomas Paine. Jesus did not spark the American Revolution and perhaps Mohamed is nowhere near Cairo at this time.Where is that angel Gabriel when you need him? Justice is the same everywhere and lacking nearly to the same degree everywhere with minor vagaries of time, power and place. Religion interferes with this truth.

[NotCranky]

I have to admit though, when I saw the title to this thread I thought we were going to discuss Thomas Paine. Jesus did not spark the American Revolution and perhaps Mohamed is nowhere near Cairo at this time.Where is that angel Gabriel when you need him? Justice is the same everywhere and lacking nearly to the same degree everywhere with minor vagaries of time, power and place. Religion interferes with this truth.

[Anonymous]

Allan, I’m not sure why you think I’m making it out to be simple. It’s not simple.

The phrase “founded on Judeo-Christian principles” is WAY too simple.

What exactly are these values? More importantly, which of these values are different from Islamic values? Because A LOT of them are the same.

Are we talking the Ten Commandments?

Muslims aren’t aloud to kill or steal either, and we know they aren’t big on adultery.

In fact, outside of the Sabbath, I think Muslims pretty much have the same rules as the Ten Commandments (and they do a much better job with the “graven image” part.)

So what makes us distinct?

A fundamental Christian value is forgiveness. How is that value represented in our founding principles?

Also, have these values changed over the years? (hint: suffrage, slavery)

(BTW, I’m a Protestant and probably attend church as regularly as any of the characters here.)

So what specifically makes our law “Judeo-Christian?”

I really don’t know.

Interesting: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/06/08/are-the-ten-commandments-really-the-basis-for-our-laws/

[Anonymous]

Allan, I’m not sure why you think I’m making it out to be simple. It’s not simple.

The phrase “founded on Judeo-Christian principles” is WAY too simple.

What exactly are these values? More importantly, which of these values are different from Islamic values? Because A LOT of them are the same.

Are we talking the Ten Commandments?

Muslims aren’t aloud to kill or steal either, and we know they aren’t big on adultery.

In fact, outside of the Sabbath, I think Muslims pretty much have the same rules as the Ten Commandments (and they do a much better job with the “graven image” part.)

So what makes us distinct?

A fundamental Christian value is forgiveness. How is that value represented in our founding principles?

Also, have these values changed over the years? (hint: suffrage, slavery)

(BTW, I’m a Protestant and probably attend church as regularly as any of the characters here.)

So what specifically makes our law “Judeo-Christian?”

I really don’t know.

Interesting: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/06/08/are-the-ten-commandments-really-the-basis-for-our-laws/

[Anonymous]

Allan, I’m not sure why you think I’m making it out to be simple. It’s not simple.

The phrase “founded on Judeo-Christian principles” is WAY too simple.

What exactly are these values? More importantly, which of these values are different from Islamic values? Because A LOT of them are the same.

Are we talking the Ten Commandments?

Muslims aren’t aloud to kill or steal either, and we know they aren’t big on adultery.

In fact, outside of the Sabbath, I think Muslims pretty much have the same rules as the Ten Commandments (and they do a much better job with the “graven image” part.)

So what makes us distinct?

A fundamental Christian value is forgiveness. How is that value represented in our founding principles?

Also, have these values changed over the years? (hint: suffrage, slavery)

(BTW, I’m a Protestant and probably attend church as regularly as any of the characters here.)

So what specifically makes our law “Judeo-Christian?”

I really don’t know.

Interesting: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/06/08/are-the-ten-commandments-really-the-basis-for-our-laws/

[Anonymous]

Allan, I’m not sure why you think I’m making it out to be simple. It’s not simple.

The phrase “founded on Judeo-Christian principles” is WAY too simple.

What exactly are these values? More importantly, which of these values are different from Islamic values? Because A LOT of them are the same.

Are we talking the Ten Commandments?

Muslims aren’t aloud to kill or steal either, and we know they aren’t big on adultery.

In fact, outside of the Sabbath, I think Muslims pretty much have the same rules as the Ten Commandments (and they do a much better job with the “graven image” part.)

So what makes us distinct?

A fundamental Christian value is forgiveness. How is that value represented in our founding principles?

Also, have these values changed over the years? (hint: suffrage, slavery)

(BTW, I’m a Protestant and probably attend church as regularly as any of the characters here.)

So what specifically makes our law “Judeo-Christian?”

I really don’t know.

Interesting: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/06/08/are-the-ten-commandments-really-the-basis-for-our-laws/

[Anonymous]

Allan, I’m not sure why you think I’m making it out to be simple. It’s not simple.

The phrase “founded on Judeo-Christian principles” is WAY too simple.

What exactly are these values? More importantly, which of these values are different from Islamic values? Because A LOT of them are the same.

Are we talking the Ten Commandments?

Muslims aren’t aloud to kill or steal either, and we know they aren’t big on adultery.

In fact, outside of the Sabbath, I think Muslims pretty much have the same rules as the Ten Commandments (and they do a much better job with the “graven image” part.)

So what makes us distinct?

A fundamental Christian value is forgiveness. How is that value represented in our founding principles?

Also, have these values changed over the years? (hint: suffrage, slavery)

(BTW, I’m a Protestant and probably attend church as regularly as any of the characters here.)

So what specifically makes our law “Judeo-Christian?”

I really don’t know.

Interesting: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/06/08/are-the-ten-commandments-really-the-basis-for-our-laws/

[Arraya]

[quote=walterwhite]what the heck is the american culture everyone should assimilate into?[/quote]

It’s very simple. you need to keep consumer confidence and take on debt. Advertising will tell you your self interest to rationally utilize. Got it.

[Arraya]

[quote=walterwhite]what the heck is the american culture everyone should assimilate into?[/quote]

It’s very simple. you need to keep consumer confidence and take on debt. Advertising will tell you your self interest to rationally utilize. Got it.

[Arraya]

[quote=walterwhite]what the heck is the american culture everyone should assimilate into?[/quote]

It’s very simple. you need to keep consumer confidence and take on debt. Advertising will tell you your self interest to rationally utilize. Got it.

[Arraya]

[quote=walterwhite]what the heck is the american culture everyone should assimilate into?[/quote]

It’s very simple. you need to keep consumer confidence and take on debt. Advertising will tell you your self interest to rationally utilize. Got it.

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