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March 23, 2009 at 10:29 AM #15351March 23, 2009 at 10:44 AM #371642XBoxBoyParticipant
JP,
A fascinating story. Wonder if it’s true or just another urban legend?
While I don’t want to promote socialism or argue against the lesson of the story, I would think that in a college class, some of the students would start to take leadership roles and would put peer pressure on all to study. For instance, I could see the students who want better grades to start a study group that everyone would be pressured to attend. For them all to just give up seems highly unlikely unless the overwhelming majority of them were unmotivated towards their grade.
My biggest suspicion about why this story isn’t true is that generally it takes years for socialism to fall apart, not a matter of a single semester’s time. And how convenient that the professor got a whole class who at the beginning of the class was full of socialists and everyone agreed to this scheme. (Personally I would have gone to the dean right away)
So, I doubt it’s true, but a fun story none the less.
XBoxBoy
March 23, 2009 at 10:44 AM #371931XBoxBoyParticipantJP,
A fascinating story. Wonder if it’s true or just another urban legend?
While I don’t want to promote socialism or argue against the lesson of the story, I would think that in a college class, some of the students would start to take leadership roles and would put peer pressure on all to study. For instance, I could see the students who want better grades to start a study group that everyone would be pressured to attend. For them all to just give up seems highly unlikely unless the overwhelming majority of them were unmotivated towards their grade.
My biggest suspicion about why this story isn’t true is that generally it takes years for socialism to fall apart, not a matter of a single semester’s time. And how convenient that the professor got a whole class who at the beginning of the class was full of socialists and everyone agreed to this scheme. (Personally I would have gone to the dean right away)
So, I doubt it’s true, but a fun story none the less.
XBoxBoy
March 23, 2009 at 10:44 AM #372257XBoxBoyParticipantJP,
A fascinating story. Wonder if it’s true or just another urban legend?
While I don’t want to promote socialism or argue against the lesson of the story, I would think that in a college class, some of the students would start to take leadership roles and would put peer pressure on all to study. For instance, I could see the students who want better grades to start a study group that everyone would be pressured to attend. For them all to just give up seems highly unlikely unless the overwhelming majority of them were unmotivated towards their grade.
My biggest suspicion about why this story isn’t true is that generally it takes years for socialism to fall apart, not a matter of a single semester’s time. And how convenient that the professor got a whole class who at the beginning of the class was full of socialists and everyone agreed to this scheme. (Personally I would have gone to the dean right away)
So, I doubt it’s true, but a fun story none the less.
XBoxBoy
March 23, 2009 at 10:44 AM #372102XBoxBoyParticipantJP,
A fascinating story. Wonder if it’s true or just another urban legend?
While I don’t want to promote socialism or argue against the lesson of the story, I would think that in a college class, some of the students would start to take leadership roles and would put peer pressure on all to study. For instance, I could see the students who want better grades to start a study group that everyone would be pressured to attend. For them all to just give up seems highly unlikely unless the overwhelming majority of them were unmotivated towards their grade.
My biggest suspicion about why this story isn’t true is that generally it takes years for socialism to fall apart, not a matter of a single semester’s time. And how convenient that the professor got a whole class who at the beginning of the class was full of socialists and everyone agreed to this scheme. (Personally I would have gone to the dean right away)
So, I doubt it’s true, but a fun story none the less.
XBoxBoy
March 23, 2009 at 10:44 AM #372143XBoxBoyParticipantJP,
A fascinating story. Wonder if it’s true or just another urban legend?
While I don’t want to promote socialism or argue against the lesson of the story, I would think that in a college class, some of the students would start to take leadership roles and would put peer pressure on all to study. For instance, I could see the students who want better grades to start a study group that everyone would be pressured to attend. For them all to just give up seems highly unlikely unless the overwhelming majority of them were unmotivated towards their grade.
My biggest suspicion about why this story isn’t true is that generally it takes years for socialism to fall apart, not a matter of a single semester’s time. And how convenient that the professor got a whole class who at the beginning of the class was full of socialists and everyone agreed to this scheme. (Personally I would have gone to the dean right away)
So, I doubt it’s true, but a fun story none the less.
XBoxBoy
March 23, 2009 at 11:00 AM #372117jpinpbParticipantI knew the Piggs would go through it thoroughly. I would think they’d take the other kids in the hall and beat them into studying so they’d all get A’s. It said Texas tech. If it were SDSU, I’d think more credible. The kids just gave up and wanted to party.
March 23, 2009 at 11:00 AM #372158jpinpbParticipantI knew the Piggs would go through it thoroughly. I would think they’d take the other kids in the hall and beat them into studying so they’d all get A’s. It said Texas tech. If it were SDSU, I’d think more credible. The kids just gave up and wanted to party.
March 23, 2009 at 11:00 AM #372272jpinpbParticipantI knew the Piggs would go through it thoroughly. I would think they’d take the other kids in the hall and beat them into studying so they’d all get A’s. It said Texas tech. If it were SDSU, I’d think more credible. The kids just gave up and wanted to party.
March 23, 2009 at 11:00 AM #371657jpinpbParticipantI knew the Piggs would go through it thoroughly. I would think they’d take the other kids in the hall and beat them into studying so they’d all get A’s. It said Texas tech. If it were SDSU, I’d think more credible. The kids just gave up and wanted to party.
March 23, 2009 at 11:00 AM #371946jpinpbParticipantI knew the Piggs would go through it thoroughly. I would think they’d take the other kids in the hall and beat them into studying so they’d all get A’s. It said Texas tech. If it were SDSU, I’d think more credible. The kids just gave up and wanted to party.
March 23, 2009 at 11:12 AM #372127DWCAPParticipantI have no doubt that this is more urban myth than real history. If for no other reason than all the students who studied hard and didnt get A’s would go to the dean and complain and this little experiment would be over. Even though there is a huge error rate, schools still attempt to use grades to denote how well students understood the material, not as a reward for studying.
Fun thought experiment though. The problem here is the assumption that the students are lazy and have NO natual aptitude for the material. I had plenty of classes where I really enjoyed the material and have kept up with it afterwards just for my own reward. I have known plenty of people who “could just play”, to borrow a phrase, no matter how little they studied. So the lesson then would be that Socialism could work with the right sinario/setup?
March 23, 2009 at 11:12 AM #372168DWCAPParticipantI have no doubt that this is more urban myth than real history. If for no other reason than all the students who studied hard and didnt get A’s would go to the dean and complain and this little experiment would be over. Even though there is a huge error rate, schools still attempt to use grades to denote how well students understood the material, not as a reward for studying.
Fun thought experiment though. The problem here is the assumption that the students are lazy and have NO natual aptitude for the material. I had plenty of classes where I really enjoyed the material and have kept up with it afterwards just for my own reward. I have known plenty of people who “could just play”, to borrow a phrase, no matter how little they studied. So the lesson then would be that Socialism could work with the right sinario/setup?
March 23, 2009 at 11:12 AM #371667DWCAPParticipantI have no doubt that this is more urban myth than real history. If for no other reason than all the students who studied hard and didnt get A’s would go to the dean and complain and this little experiment would be over. Even though there is a huge error rate, schools still attempt to use grades to denote how well students understood the material, not as a reward for studying.
Fun thought experiment though. The problem here is the assumption that the students are lazy and have NO natual aptitude for the material. I had plenty of classes where I really enjoyed the material and have kept up with it afterwards just for my own reward. I have known plenty of people who “could just play”, to borrow a phrase, no matter how little they studied. So the lesson then would be that Socialism could work with the right sinario/setup?
March 23, 2009 at 11:12 AM #372282DWCAPParticipantI have no doubt that this is more urban myth than real history. If for no other reason than all the students who studied hard and didnt get A’s would go to the dean and complain and this little experiment would be over. Even though there is a huge error rate, schools still attempt to use grades to denote how well students understood the material, not as a reward for studying.
Fun thought experiment though. The problem here is the assumption that the students are lazy and have NO natual aptitude for the material. I had plenty of classes where I really enjoyed the material and have kept up with it afterwards just for my own reward. I have known plenty of people who “could just play”, to borrow a phrase, no matter how little they studied. So the lesson then would be that Socialism could work with the right sinario/setup?
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