Cheap developed countries

[scaredyclassic]

fucking old people’ with their senior discounts and fearfulness and conservative worldviews.. their stupid nostalgia and medical bills. their particular smell and damaged skin

i hate them and that im becoming one.

i have a new exercise im working on to combat my general groaning when i have to get up from a supine position. u can try it too.

drop to the floor.
quickly get on your back.
quickly get back to your knees. jump up.
repeat.

i really dont want to be one of those old people who make noise when they have to stand up.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=scaredyclassic]old people generally wanna live near their doctors[/quote]

Ain’t that the truth.

But young people are used to HMOs and never having the same doctor. There will be telemedicine in the future so that will be great for old folks who wants to retire abroad. Medicare only pays within USA.

I know an old dude who retired in Vegas where his state pension is not taxed. He moved back East because he felt neglected by the HMO. In reality, he’s just a needy old man who is used to the same doctors.

I hate old selfish people who hoard all the medical services (tucking old people, trying to be funny here, I don’t hate anyone) To them, going to the doctor’s is like a ritual to lessen loneliness and satisfy their craving for attention. To lower medical expenses and improve health, insurance companies and government should pay for (or subsidize) community center activities.

I think many people are on drugs and become painkiller addicted because they like to complain about little ailments and get prescriptions.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=scaredyclassic]fucking old people’ with their senior discounts and fearfulness and conservative worldviews.. their stupid nostalgia and medical bills. their particular smell and damaged skin

i hate them and that im becoming one.

i have a new exercise im working on to combat my general groaning when i have to get up from a supine position. u can try it too.

drop to the floor.
quickly get on your back.
quickly get back to your knees. jump up.
repeat.

i really dont want to be one of those old people who make noise when they have to stand up.[/quote]

Good for you.

Don’t grow fat. Stay thin.
Big bellies put people off balance and skinny legs can’t support heavy bellies. Simple physics.

[The-Shoveler]

Sounds like a burpee

[The-Shoveler]

I still say do it while your young enough to enjoy it.

Time waits for no man.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=The-Shoveler]Sounds like a burpee[/quote]

It sounds like a burpee, but it’s actually quite different. With a burpee, you’re never flat on the floor. Burpees, you drop down to a squat, kick your legs out to a push up position, do your pushup with only 4 points of connection to the floor—the hands and feet, and then kick your legs in and jump up. That’s a great exercise, approved by people in prison for fitness training for combat readiness in prison riots, and it is heavily aerobic. My exercise is modified. Basically, mine is lie down quickly, get up quickly.

But be completely laid out before you start to get up. It’s harder than it sounds when you do a bunch of them together.

It kind of simulates getting back up quickly after being knocked down in a fight, or for the elderly, getting up out of bed without slipping a disc. I figure if I keep doing those, I wont grunt when getting out of my car or get trapped on the floor of the bathroom after being unable to elevate myself from the commode. It could be modified to get down and lie on your belly as quickly as possible, then get on your feet as quickly as possible. I haven’t actually tried that yet, just the get on your back version. You rarely see elderly people who can jump up from their chairs or sofas to run out the door. Usually it’s a prolonged struggle, with an uncertain ending. It is terrifying to see my mom try to get up out of a chair. Her physical therapist actually told her for exercise to just sit down and get up, for reps. Id o not think she is practicing.

Aerobic exercise, like cycling or running, I’m not sure will save the day. Getting up is a complex thing with a lot of muscles involved. That’s why I think it might be good to train for it. Burpees will help, definitely, but my exercise will also assist, and is definitely easier than burpees. Id say start with mine, move up to burpees, do both. I get exhausted at 10 burpees. It should be very easy, even for an older person, to get up out of bed, a chair, or even off the floor, IMO. That is my plan, anyway.

[FlyerInHi]

I don’t know how much training helps. But it’s awesome you’re practicing.

One of my relatives is 100yo. If you ask her to show photos and talk about the past, she gets excited, zooms upstairs and gets the albums.

I have friends who were college athletes, military, etc…. they trained but they now have pains and don’t even want to pick up coins they drop on the floor. They will not be happy campers in old age.

diet of fruit and veggies, non-processes food, little meat works wonders. Staying well below BMI guidelines will help you live a long time and be mobile into old age. Eat an orange over ice cream. Drink fresh coconut water over Diet Coke.

Take care of your body because anti aging medicine, gene therapy, etc are making lots of progress. We maybe the first generation to benefit from it.

[The-Shoveler]

Buffet drinks lots of diet coke.

After workout routine.
Glucosamine hcl, collagen, turmeric and black pepper
Chase it down with whey protein , maybe a little Jello.

Not sure it works, I need to give it anther 20 years LOL.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=The-Shoveler]

Not sure it works, I need to give it anther 20 years LOL.[/quote]

At least you got a sense of humor.

The way I look at it, if I’m gonna be financially prudent, I’d better live a long time to enjoy my money.

[The-Shoveler]

Jack LaLanne was in good health right up until his death by pneumonia (he was 96, he really should have gone to the doctors he may have still been alive who knows).

He kept up a grueling workout up until the end and took supplements.

[scaredyclassic]

seems unlikely id move to another country. sounds lonely.

i practiced getting up and down fast at the gym. i imagine it looked like the exercise of the mentally impaired.

[spdrun]

It’s not necessarily lonely if you:
(1) Move to a country that has a fairly friendly/open culture
(2) Do something that involves interfacing with lots of people (e.g. teaching or tourism industry)
(3) Are willing to learn the language and be culturally adaptable

[FlyerInHi]

I’m poorer countries, lots is lonely men (yes, men not women) from richer countries hang out at bars all day. Yet, they are less lonely than they would be in their home countries otherwise they wouldn’t come. That won’t be me because I don’t drink.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=The-Shoveler]Jack LaLanne was in good health right up until his death by pneumonia (he was 96, he really should have gone to the doctors he may have still been alive who knows).

He kept up a grueling workout up until the end and took supplements.[/quote]

In the future, there will be medical iot and telemedicine.

Grueling workout may be excessive but exercise is needed.

Good genes are best. But diet is key. Get some mice and experiment with typical all you can eat American diet vs. fruit and veggies heavy diet. That’s a good experiment for kids.

[SD Transplant]

Interesting post as I am also contemplating planning/options for retirement (about 13-15 yrs away given my kid’s ages). The US is the only developed country where a large part of its citizens struggle to retire at the typical age (65ish) and maintain the same lifestyle.

Most intriguing is that in today’s finance news the frequent articles that pop up are “Top 10 retirement outside of the US”. I believe it is a soft attempt to prepare the nearly retirement age crowd that in the US the majority won’t make it w/out strong retirement planning. The finance news media provides plan B for you if you didn’t save. Hence, countries like Cost Rica, Mexico, Thailand, take your Eastern EU pick are always options to consider. I am a transplant too (23 yrs in San Diego and with the first 20 yrs in Eastern EU somewhere). Our US reality of social pension + medical cost/support will most likely drive me out of the US. It isn’t for the lack of planning, but the desire to retire earlier (around 55-57).

Long ago, another transplant friend properly noted that all you need to be successful in the US, are 2 things: #1 a good work uniform, and #2 a good pajama (to be read as: work + sleep & repeat). It also tells you a bit about our society where standard/average productive people that aren’t productive anymore (retired) would be better in another country or nicely pushed away.

I travel regularly, and Europe has its charm. Eastern EU is pretty cheap and fun, but the cold winters push me away. It might be a formula that Summers in Europe and Winters in (Mexico, Costa Rica, Thailand)…… I prefer tropical climate & good fishing nearby, however the wifey likes home (Eastern EU) because of the paid off real estate/social atmosphere/people/lifestyle etc.

P.S. Also interesting that most of my vacations are now planned around places I would consider retiring for winter (Mexico, Thailand are lovely -checked off my list and Costa Rica will be checked off in a few months).

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