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March 27, 2008 at 3:16 PM #177687March 27, 2008 at 3:36 PM #177238jficquetteParticipant
bjensen,
You might want to consider seeing an Industrial Psychologist who can evaluate what you would be the happiest doing.
It will cost a few hundred dollars but at least you will find out where your comfort level is using an objective test and an inteview.
This web site should give you some leads on who to go to here in SoCal.
http://www.cpapsych.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=4
This site gives a Myers-Briggs profile which you may find somewhat helpful.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp
John
March 27, 2008 at 3:36 PM #177591jficquetteParticipantbjensen,
You might want to consider seeing an Industrial Psychologist who can evaluate what you would be the happiest doing.
It will cost a few hundred dollars but at least you will find out where your comfort level is using an objective test and an inteview.
This web site should give you some leads on who to go to here in SoCal.
http://www.cpapsych.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=4
This site gives a Myers-Briggs profile which you may find somewhat helpful.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp
John
March 27, 2008 at 3:36 PM #177600jficquetteParticipantbjensen,
You might want to consider seeing an Industrial Psychologist who can evaluate what you would be the happiest doing.
It will cost a few hundred dollars but at least you will find out where your comfort level is using an objective test and an inteview.
This web site should give you some leads on who to go to here in SoCal.
http://www.cpapsych.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=4
This site gives a Myers-Briggs profile which you may find somewhat helpful.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp
John
March 27, 2008 at 3:36 PM #177604jficquetteParticipantbjensen,
You might want to consider seeing an Industrial Psychologist who can evaluate what you would be the happiest doing.
It will cost a few hundred dollars but at least you will find out where your comfort level is using an objective test and an inteview.
This web site should give you some leads on who to go to here in SoCal.
http://www.cpapsych.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=4
This site gives a Myers-Briggs profile which you may find somewhat helpful.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp
John
March 27, 2008 at 3:36 PM #177692jficquetteParticipantbjensen,
You might want to consider seeing an Industrial Psychologist who can evaluate what you would be the happiest doing.
It will cost a few hundred dollars but at least you will find out where your comfort level is using an objective test and an inteview.
This web site should give you some leads on who to go to here in SoCal.
http://www.cpapsych.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=4
This site gives a Myers-Briggs profile which you may find somewhat helpful.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp
John
March 27, 2008 at 3:48 PM #177245scaredyclassicParticipantis there really a glut of lawyers? I don’t know. I went to law school over 15 years ago and I remember everyone saying there were way too many lawyers back then. i think people always say there’s too many lawyers. i’ve always made a living doing different kinds of legal work. i think most people who want to make a living at it make a living at it.
I think it’s pretty damn interesting generally and I am truly, profoundly grateful to have this profession to practice.
I have no regrets about going to a fancy top 20 law school, incurring 100k in debt (seemed like a lot back int he early 90’s and committing to a life in the law. I love uncertainty, conflict, public speaking, risk, complications, quirky arguments and trying to persuade people, and a lot fo normal people might find these job attributes wearing.
Indeed, lawyers do seem in general to weary of the profession generally. however, you see a lot of old coots who keep at it, and seem to live for it. I dont know that a wife and kid would make you “non-competitive” in school. A lot of performance on law school exams was hard work coupled with at least an equal amount of raw skill at doing law tests. you’ll see when you get into it, but you can work your butt off 7 days a week studying and if you’re not good at law exams, you will not do well. C
onversely, you could do the basic work in the class, not kill yourself, and if you ahve a natural fluency with legal analysis and writing, you can kick ass on law exams. it’s just life. Some people play basketbal well, some do law school well. Hard work helps and is necessary, but pasta certain amount, you are just spining your wheels. a smart guy will not be held back by a wife and a kid.
I actually did take a fancy Johnson-O’Connor aptitude test, several days of expensive aptitude testing, in high school to figure out what i was suited for. They said I should be a lawyer. i ignored their advice and waited till i was 30 to go to law school. They were right.
Drink Heavily.
March 27, 2008 at 3:48 PM #177596scaredyclassicParticipantis there really a glut of lawyers? I don’t know. I went to law school over 15 years ago and I remember everyone saying there were way too many lawyers back then. i think people always say there’s too many lawyers. i’ve always made a living doing different kinds of legal work. i think most people who want to make a living at it make a living at it.
I think it’s pretty damn interesting generally and I am truly, profoundly grateful to have this profession to practice.
I have no regrets about going to a fancy top 20 law school, incurring 100k in debt (seemed like a lot back int he early 90’s and committing to a life in the law. I love uncertainty, conflict, public speaking, risk, complications, quirky arguments and trying to persuade people, and a lot fo normal people might find these job attributes wearing.
Indeed, lawyers do seem in general to weary of the profession generally. however, you see a lot of old coots who keep at it, and seem to live for it. I dont know that a wife and kid would make you “non-competitive” in school. A lot of performance on law school exams was hard work coupled with at least an equal amount of raw skill at doing law tests. you’ll see when you get into it, but you can work your butt off 7 days a week studying and if you’re not good at law exams, you will not do well. C
onversely, you could do the basic work in the class, not kill yourself, and if you ahve a natural fluency with legal analysis and writing, you can kick ass on law exams. it’s just life. Some people play basketbal well, some do law school well. Hard work helps and is necessary, but pasta certain amount, you are just spining your wheels. a smart guy will not be held back by a wife and a kid.
I actually did take a fancy Johnson-O’Connor aptitude test, several days of expensive aptitude testing, in high school to figure out what i was suited for. They said I should be a lawyer. i ignored their advice and waited till i was 30 to go to law school. They were right.
Drink Heavily.
March 27, 2008 at 3:48 PM #177605scaredyclassicParticipantis there really a glut of lawyers? I don’t know. I went to law school over 15 years ago and I remember everyone saying there were way too many lawyers back then. i think people always say there’s too many lawyers. i’ve always made a living doing different kinds of legal work. i think most people who want to make a living at it make a living at it.
I think it’s pretty damn interesting generally and I am truly, profoundly grateful to have this profession to practice.
I have no regrets about going to a fancy top 20 law school, incurring 100k in debt (seemed like a lot back int he early 90’s and committing to a life in the law. I love uncertainty, conflict, public speaking, risk, complications, quirky arguments and trying to persuade people, and a lot fo normal people might find these job attributes wearing.
Indeed, lawyers do seem in general to weary of the profession generally. however, you see a lot of old coots who keep at it, and seem to live for it. I dont know that a wife and kid would make you “non-competitive” in school. A lot of performance on law school exams was hard work coupled with at least an equal amount of raw skill at doing law tests. you’ll see when you get into it, but you can work your butt off 7 days a week studying and if you’re not good at law exams, you will not do well. C
onversely, you could do the basic work in the class, not kill yourself, and if you ahve a natural fluency with legal analysis and writing, you can kick ass on law exams. it’s just life. Some people play basketbal well, some do law school well. Hard work helps and is necessary, but pasta certain amount, you are just spining your wheels. a smart guy will not be held back by a wife and a kid.
I actually did take a fancy Johnson-O’Connor aptitude test, several days of expensive aptitude testing, in high school to figure out what i was suited for. They said I should be a lawyer. i ignored their advice and waited till i was 30 to go to law school. They were right.
Drink Heavily.
March 27, 2008 at 3:48 PM #177610scaredyclassicParticipantis there really a glut of lawyers? I don’t know. I went to law school over 15 years ago and I remember everyone saying there were way too many lawyers back then. i think people always say there’s too many lawyers. i’ve always made a living doing different kinds of legal work. i think most people who want to make a living at it make a living at it.
I think it’s pretty damn interesting generally and I am truly, profoundly grateful to have this profession to practice.
I have no regrets about going to a fancy top 20 law school, incurring 100k in debt (seemed like a lot back int he early 90’s and committing to a life in the law. I love uncertainty, conflict, public speaking, risk, complications, quirky arguments and trying to persuade people, and a lot fo normal people might find these job attributes wearing.
Indeed, lawyers do seem in general to weary of the profession generally. however, you see a lot of old coots who keep at it, and seem to live for it. I dont know that a wife and kid would make you “non-competitive” in school. A lot of performance on law school exams was hard work coupled with at least an equal amount of raw skill at doing law tests. you’ll see when you get into it, but you can work your butt off 7 days a week studying and if you’re not good at law exams, you will not do well. C
onversely, you could do the basic work in the class, not kill yourself, and if you ahve a natural fluency with legal analysis and writing, you can kick ass on law exams. it’s just life. Some people play basketbal well, some do law school well. Hard work helps and is necessary, but pasta certain amount, you are just spining your wheels. a smart guy will not be held back by a wife and a kid.
I actually did take a fancy Johnson-O’Connor aptitude test, several days of expensive aptitude testing, in high school to figure out what i was suited for. They said I should be a lawyer. i ignored their advice and waited till i was 30 to go to law school. They were right.
Drink Heavily.
March 27, 2008 at 3:48 PM #177697scaredyclassicParticipantis there really a glut of lawyers? I don’t know. I went to law school over 15 years ago and I remember everyone saying there were way too many lawyers back then. i think people always say there’s too many lawyers. i’ve always made a living doing different kinds of legal work. i think most people who want to make a living at it make a living at it.
I think it’s pretty damn interesting generally and I am truly, profoundly grateful to have this profession to practice.
I have no regrets about going to a fancy top 20 law school, incurring 100k in debt (seemed like a lot back int he early 90’s and committing to a life in the law. I love uncertainty, conflict, public speaking, risk, complications, quirky arguments and trying to persuade people, and a lot fo normal people might find these job attributes wearing.
Indeed, lawyers do seem in general to weary of the profession generally. however, you see a lot of old coots who keep at it, and seem to live for it. I dont know that a wife and kid would make you “non-competitive” in school. A lot of performance on law school exams was hard work coupled with at least an equal amount of raw skill at doing law tests. you’ll see when you get into it, but you can work your butt off 7 days a week studying and if you’re not good at law exams, you will not do well. C
onversely, you could do the basic work in the class, not kill yourself, and if you ahve a natural fluency with legal analysis and writing, you can kick ass on law exams. it’s just life. Some people play basketbal well, some do law school well. Hard work helps and is necessary, but pasta certain amount, you are just spining your wheels. a smart guy will not be held back by a wife and a kid.
I actually did take a fancy Johnson-O’Connor aptitude test, several days of expensive aptitude testing, in high school to figure out what i was suited for. They said I should be a lawyer. i ignored their advice and waited till i was 30 to go to law school. They were right.
Drink Heavily.
March 27, 2008 at 4:01 PM #177253AnonymousGuestSure. My law school usually ranks at around #15 depending on whose survey you are reading. I’m in a firm with around 100 lawyers locally and several hundred nationally. FYI, very few firms would expect you to bill 2400 hours as an associate. If you bill 2100 (or even 2000 depending on the firm), and do excellent work, that’s usually plenty of hours to advance within the firm. You can typically bill 80%-90% of your hours. So if you are in the office for 10 hours, you should be able to bill at least 8-9 hours of that (with the rest consisting of your lunch break, time goofing off, doing administrative tasks, attending meetings, etc.). If you are assigned to write a law review article for a partner to sign his/her name to, that’s non-billable and you would not get credit for it (so you might have to do that over a weekend, for example). If you treat law school like a job, i.e., work at it consistently during working hours, you should be able to manage even with a wife and child. I was single, but I had several friends with families who took it seriously and did extremely well in law school.
March 27, 2008 at 4:01 PM #177606AnonymousGuestSure. My law school usually ranks at around #15 depending on whose survey you are reading. I’m in a firm with around 100 lawyers locally and several hundred nationally. FYI, very few firms would expect you to bill 2400 hours as an associate. If you bill 2100 (or even 2000 depending on the firm), and do excellent work, that’s usually plenty of hours to advance within the firm. You can typically bill 80%-90% of your hours. So if you are in the office for 10 hours, you should be able to bill at least 8-9 hours of that (with the rest consisting of your lunch break, time goofing off, doing administrative tasks, attending meetings, etc.). If you are assigned to write a law review article for a partner to sign his/her name to, that’s non-billable and you would not get credit for it (so you might have to do that over a weekend, for example). If you treat law school like a job, i.e., work at it consistently during working hours, you should be able to manage even with a wife and child. I was single, but I had several friends with families who took it seriously and did extremely well in law school.
March 27, 2008 at 4:01 PM #177615AnonymousGuestSure. My law school usually ranks at around #15 depending on whose survey you are reading. I’m in a firm with around 100 lawyers locally and several hundred nationally. FYI, very few firms would expect you to bill 2400 hours as an associate. If you bill 2100 (or even 2000 depending on the firm), and do excellent work, that’s usually plenty of hours to advance within the firm. You can typically bill 80%-90% of your hours. So if you are in the office for 10 hours, you should be able to bill at least 8-9 hours of that (with the rest consisting of your lunch break, time goofing off, doing administrative tasks, attending meetings, etc.). If you are assigned to write a law review article for a partner to sign his/her name to, that’s non-billable and you would not get credit for it (so you might have to do that over a weekend, for example). If you treat law school like a job, i.e., work at it consistently during working hours, you should be able to manage even with a wife and child. I was single, but I had several friends with families who took it seriously and did extremely well in law school.
March 27, 2008 at 4:01 PM #177619AnonymousGuestSure. My law school usually ranks at around #15 depending on whose survey you are reading. I’m in a firm with around 100 lawyers locally and several hundred nationally. FYI, very few firms would expect you to bill 2400 hours as an associate. If you bill 2100 (or even 2000 depending on the firm), and do excellent work, that’s usually plenty of hours to advance within the firm. You can typically bill 80%-90% of your hours. So if you are in the office for 10 hours, you should be able to bill at least 8-9 hours of that (with the rest consisting of your lunch break, time goofing off, doing administrative tasks, attending meetings, etc.). If you are assigned to write a law review article for a partner to sign his/her name to, that’s non-billable and you would not get credit for it (so you might have to do that over a weekend, for example). If you treat law school like a job, i.e., work at it consistently during working hours, you should be able to manage even with a wife and child. I was single, but I had several friends with families who took it seriously and did extremely well in law school.
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