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June 29, 2011 at 5:45 PM #707867June 29, 2011 at 9:34 PM #706701
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Participantwell, it would probably be good to have a system that doesn’t intensely concentrate wealth. Right is probably the wrong word. Fortunately for the rich, they’re in charge.
June 29, 2011 at 9:34 PM #706798scaredyclassic
Participantwell, it would probably be good to have a system that doesn’t intensely concentrate wealth. Right is probably the wrong word. Fortunately for the rich, they’re in charge.
June 29, 2011 at 9:34 PM #707398scaredyclassic
Participantwell, it would probably be good to have a system that doesn’t intensely concentrate wealth. Right is probably the wrong word. Fortunately for the rich, they’re in charge.
June 29, 2011 at 9:34 PM #707548scaredyclassic
Participantwell, it would probably be good to have a system that doesn’t intensely concentrate wealth. Right is probably the wrong word. Fortunately for the rich, they’re in charge.
June 29, 2011 at 9:34 PM #707912scaredyclassic
Participantwell, it would probably be good to have a system that doesn’t intensely concentrate wealth. Right is probably the wrong word. Fortunately for the rich, they’re in charge.
June 30, 2011 at 12:49 AM #706716CA renter
Participant[quote=AN][quote=CA renter]Personally, I think the “right” to own one’s home supercedes the “right” of the wealthy to extract more wealth from the productive workers who need that shelter.[/quote]
Who here ever said the wealthy have the “right” to extract more wealth from the productive work? Who here ever said creating wealth “period” is a “right” at all?[/quote]If the properties aren’t owned by the people who live in them, then the residents (productive workers) are giving up their wealth (earned income) to those who earn their money via capital vs. labor. As a general rule, those who earn their living via capital tend to be wealthier than those who earn their living via labor.
We need to determine if we, as a society, benefit more from having stable communities where the residents and local workers own their own homes, or if we benefit more from having legions of renters who pay most of their wages to the rentier class (landlords) who tend to have more capital than the people who live in those houses — which further exacerbates the growing wealth divide, and all the problems that go with it.
June 30, 2011 at 12:49 AM #706813CA renter
Participant[quote=AN][quote=CA renter]Personally, I think the “right” to own one’s home supercedes the “right” of the wealthy to extract more wealth from the productive workers who need that shelter.[/quote]
Who here ever said the wealthy have the “right” to extract more wealth from the productive work? Who here ever said creating wealth “period” is a “right” at all?[/quote]If the properties aren’t owned by the people who live in them, then the residents (productive workers) are giving up their wealth (earned income) to those who earn their money via capital vs. labor. As a general rule, those who earn their living via capital tend to be wealthier than those who earn their living via labor.
We need to determine if we, as a society, benefit more from having stable communities where the residents and local workers own their own homes, or if we benefit more from having legions of renters who pay most of their wages to the rentier class (landlords) who tend to have more capital than the people who live in those houses — which further exacerbates the growing wealth divide, and all the problems that go with it.
June 30, 2011 at 12:49 AM #707413CA renter
Participant[quote=AN][quote=CA renter]Personally, I think the “right” to own one’s home supercedes the “right” of the wealthy to extract more wealth from the productive workers who need that shelter.[/quote]
Who here ever said the wealthy have the “right” to extract more wealth from the productive work? Who here ever said creating wealth “period” is a “right” at all?[/quote]If the properties aren’t owned by the people who live in them, then the residents (productive workers) are giving up their wealth (earned income) to those who earn their money via capital vs. labor. As a general rule, those who earn their living via capital tend to be wealthier than those who earn their living via labor.
We need to determine if we, as a society, benefit more from having stable communities where the residents and local workers own their own homes, or if we benefit more from having legions of renters who pay most of their wages to the rentier class (landlords) who tend to have more capital than the people who live in those houses — which further exacerbates the growing wealth divide, and all the problems that go with it.
June 30, 2011 at 12:49 AM #707563CA renter
Participant[quote=AN][quote=CA renter]Personally, I think the “right” to own one’s home supercedes the “right” of the wealthy to extract more wealth from the productive workers who need that shelter.[/quote]
Who here ever said the wealthy have the “right” to extract more wealth from the productive work? Who here ever said creating wealth “period” is a “right” at all?[/quote]If the properties aren’t owned by the people who live in them, then the residents (productive workers) are giving up their wealth (earned income) to those who earn their money via capital vs. labor. As a general rule, those who earn their living via capital tend to be wealthier than those who earn their living via labor.
We need to determine if we, as a society, benefit more from having stable communities where the residents and local workers own their own homes, or if we benefit more from having legions of renters who pay most of their wages to the rentier class (landlords) who tend to have more capital than the people who live in those houses — which further exacerbates the growing wealth divide, and all the problems that go with it.
June 30, 2011 at 12:49 AM #707927CA renter
Participant[quote=AN][quote=CA renter]Personally, I think the “right” to own one’s home supercedes the “right” of the wealthy to extract more wealth from the productive workers who need that shelter.[/quote]
Who here ever said the wealthy have the “right” to extract more wealth from the productive work? Who here ever said creating wealth “period” is a “right” at all?[/quote]If the properties aren’t owned by the people who live in them, then the residents (productive workers) are giving up their wealth (earned income) to those who earn their money via capital vs. labor. As a general rule, those who earn their living via capital tend to be wealthier than those who earn their living via labor.
We need to determine if we, as a society, benefit more from having stable communities where the residents and local workers own their own homes, or if we benefit more from having legions of renters who pay most of their wages to the rentier class (landlords) who tend to have more capital than the people who live in those houses — which further exacerbates the growing wealth divide, and all the problems that go with it.
June 30, 2011 at 9:45 AM #706751an
Participant[quote=CA renter]
If the properties aren’t owned by the people who live in them, then the residents (productive workers) are giving up their wealth (earned income) to those who earn their money via capital vs. labor. As a general rule, those who earn their living via capital tend to be wealthier than those who earn their living via labor.We need to determine if we, as a society, benefit more from having stable communities where the residents and local workers own their own homes, or if we benefit more from having legions of renters who pay most of their wages to the rentier class (landlords) who tend to have more capital than the people who live in those houses — which further exacerbates the growing wealth divide, and all the problems that go with it.[/quote]
Nothing you said has anything to do with rights. Society that’s the most free is best in my eyes. Freedom for the rich, the poor, the fat, the skinny, etc. There should never be a group that get singled out and have their freedom taken away from them. Which is why i think America is still the best country among the developed countries.June 30, 2011 at 9:45 AM #706848an
Participant[quote=CA renter]
If the properties aren’t owned by the people who live in them, then the residents (productive workers) are giving up their wealth (earned income) to those who earn their money via capital vs. labor. As a general rule, those who earn their living via capital tend to be wealthier than those who earn their living via labor.We need to determine if we, as a society, benefit more from having stable communities where the residents and local workers own their own homes, or if we benefit more from having legions of renters who pay most of their wages to the rentier class (landlords) who tend to have more capital than the people who live in those houses — which further exacerbates the growing wealth divide, and all the problems that go with it.[/quote]
Nothing you said has anything to do with rights. Society that’s the most free is best in my eyes. Freedom for the rich, the poor, the fat, the skinny, etc. There should never be a group that get singled out and have their freedom taken away from them. Which is why i think America is still the best country among the developed countries.June 30, 2011 at 9:45 AM #707448an
Participant[quote=CA renter]
If the properties aren’t owned by the people who live in them, then the residents (productive workers) are giving up their wealth (earned income) to those who earn their money via capital vs. labor. As a general rule, those who earn their living via capital tend to be wealthier than those who earn their living via labor.We need to determine if we, as a society, benefit more from having stable communities where the residents and local workers own their own homes, or if we benefit more from having legions of renters who pay most of their wages to the rentier class (landlords) who tend to have more capital than the people who live in those houses — which further exacerbates the growing wealth divide, and all the problems that go with it.[/quote]
Nothing you said has anything to do with rights. Society that’s the most free is best in my eyes. Freedom for the rich, the poor, the fat, the skinny, etc. There should never be a group that get singled out and have their freedom taken away from them. Which is why i think America is still the best country among the developed countries.June 30, 2011 at 9:45 AM #707598an
Participant[quote=CA renter]
If the properties aren’t owned by the people who live in them, then the residents (productive workers) are giving up their wealth (earned income) to those who earn their money via capital vs. labor. As a general rule, those who earn their living via capital tend to be wealthier than those who earn their living via labor.We need to determine if we, as a society, benefit more from having stable communities where the residents and local workers own their own homes, or if we benefit more from having legions of renters who pay most of their wages to the rentier class (landlords) who tend to have more capital than the people who live in those houses — which further exacerbates the growing wealth divide, and all the problems that go with it.[/quote]
Nothing you said has anything to do with rights. Society that’s the most free is best in my eyes. Freedom for the rich, the poor, the fat, the skinny, etc. There should never be a group that get singled out and have their freedom taken away from them. Which is why i think America is still the best country among the developed countries. -
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