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October 17, 2008 at 12:59 PM #289176October 17, 2008 at 3:17 PM #288990
cooperthedog
Participantstockstradr:
If you don’t humble yourself, the market will do it for you…
Making quick profits (or losses) in an extremely volatile markets is easy by definition. You appear to be euphoric and emotional in your trading which is something you definitely want to avoid.
You really need to define your risk, especially if your holding positions overnight. Trading 2x ETF’s exposes you to even greater risk. I commend you for considering stop loss orders to define your risk, but if the rallies/fades becomes less directional, or you pick the wrong entry point, the extreme volatility will cause you to get stopped out for continual 1% losses, sometimes within minutes. Using options to define risk with the VXO & VIX at record levels may not be the best choice as the premiums as well as spreads are huge.
As for other posters reading these threads, ALWAYS use your own judgment before making a trade and weigh the risks thoroughly.
October 17, 2008 at 3:17 PM #289299cooperthedog
Participantstockstradr:
If you don’t humble yourself, the market will do it for you…
Making quick profits (or losses) in an extremely volatile markets is easy by definition. You appear to be euphoric and emotional in your trading which is something you definitely want to avoid.
You really need to define your risk, especially if your holding positions overnight. Trading 2x ETF’s exposes you to even greater risk. I commend you for considering stop loss orders to define your risk, but if the rallies/fades becomes less directional, or you pick the wrong entry point, the extreme volatility will cause you to get stopped out for continual 1% losses, sometimes within minutes. Using options to define risk with the VXO & VIX at record levels may not be the best choice as the premiums as well as spreads are huge.
As for other posters reading these threads, ALWAYS use your own judgment before making a trade and weigh the risks thoroughly.
October 17, 2008 at 3:17 PM #289307cooperthedog
Participantstockstradr:
If you don’t humble yourself, the market will do it for you…
Making quick profits (or losses) in an extremely volatile markets is easy by definition. You appear to be euphoric and emotional in your trading which is something you definitely want to avoid.
You really need to define your risk, especially if your holding positions overnight. Trading 2x ETF’s exposes you to even greater risk. I commend you for considering stop loss orders to define your risk, but if the rallies/fades becomes less directional, or you pick the wrong entry point, the extreme volatility will cause you to get stopped out for continual 1% losses, sometimes within minutes. Using options to define risk with the VXO & VIX at record levels may not be the best choice as the premiums as well as spreads are huge.
As for other posters reading these threads, ALWAYS use your own judgment before making a trade and weigh the risks thoroughly.
October 17, 2008 at 3:17 PM #289338cooperthedog
Participantstockstradr:
If you don’t humble yourself, the market will do it for you…
Making quick profits (or losses) in an extremely volatile markets is easy by definition. You appear to be euphoric and emotional in your trading which is something you definitely want to avoid.
You really need to define your risk, especially if your holding positions overnight. Trading 2x ETF’s exposes you to even greater risk. I commend you for considering stop loss orders to define your risk, but if the rallies/fades becomes less directional, or you pick the wrong entry point, the extreme volatility will cause you to get stopped out for continual 1% losses, sometimes within minutes. Using options to define risk with the VXO & VIX at record levels may not be the best choice as the premiums as well as spreads are huge.
As for other posters reading these threads, ALWAYS use your own judgment before making a trade and weigh the risks thoroughly.
October 17, 2008 at 3:17 PM #289340cooperthedog
Participantstockstradr:
If you don’t humble yourself, the market will do it for you…
Making quick profits (or losses) in an extremely volatile markets is easy by definition. You appear to be euphoric and emotional in your trading which is something you definitely want to avoid.
You really need to define your risk, especially if your holding positions overnight. Trading 2x ETF’s exposes you to even greater risk. I commend you for considering stop loss orders to define your risk, but if the rallies/fades becomes less directional, or you pick the wrong entry point, the extreme volatility will cause you to get stopped out for continual 1% losses, sometimes within minutes. Using options to define risk with the VXO & VIX at record levels may not be the best choice as the premiums as well as spreads are huge.
As for other posters reading these threads, ALWAYS use your own judgment before making a trade and weigh the risks thoroughly.
October 20, 2008 at 7:06 AM #290041
CoronitaParticipant[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker][quote=SD Realtor]I enjoy reading both yours and FLUs post. Having the guts to post what you are trading for better or worse is cool. Your call on gold has been spot on compared to all of the other calls. I was tempted to go long yesterday in the morning and wimped out and am regretting it. [/quote]
Fvck. I got called into a meeting, during which cvx went to 67. Now it’s down back to 63. Damnit, damn expensive meeting…Oh well.
I don’t try to predict the markets, I just try to play and come out right more times than wrong.[/quote]
I’m out this morning. $66.9. We’re back about 9000 (for now)
October 20, 2008 at 7:06 AM #290349
CoronitaParticipant[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker][quote=SD Realtor]I enjoy reading both yours and FLUs post. Having the guts to post what you are trading for better or worse is cool. Your call on gold has been spot on compared to all of the other calls. I was tempted to go long yesterday in the morning and wimped out and am regretting it. [/quote]
Fvck. I got called into a meeting, during which cvx went to 67. Now it’s down back to 63. Damnit, damn expensive meeting…Oh well.
I don’t try to predict the markets, I just try to play and come out right more times than wrong.[/quote]
I’m out this morning. $66.9. We’re back about 9000 (for now)
October 20, 2008 at 7:06 AM #290356
CoronitaParticipant[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker][quote=SD Realtor]I enjoy reading both yours and FLUs post. Having the guts to post what you are trading for better or worse is cool. Your call on gold has been spot on compared to all of the other calls. I was tempted to go long yesterday in the morning and wimped out and am regretting it. [/quote]
Fvck. I got called into a meeting, during which cvx went to 67. Now it’s down back to 63. Damnit, damn expensive meeting…Oh well.
I don’t try to predict the markets, I just try to play and come out right more times than wrong.[/quote]
I’m out this morning. $66.9. We’re back about 9000 (for now)
October 20, 2008 at 7:06 AM #290388
CoronitaParticipant[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker][quote=SD Realtor]I enjoy reading both yours and FLUs post. Having the guts to post what you are trading for better or worse is cool. Your call on gold has been spot on compared to all of the other calls. I was tempted to go long yesterday in the morning and wimped out and am regretting it. [/quote]
Fvck. I got called into a meeting, during which cvx went to 67. Now it’s down back to 63. Damnit, damn expensive meeting…Oh well.
I don’t try to predict the markets, I just try to play and come out right more times than wrong.[/quote]
I’m out this morning. $66.9. We’re back about 9000 (for now)
October 20, 2008 at 7:06 AM #290392
CoronitaParticipant[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker][quote=SD Realtor]I enjoy reading both yours and FLUs post. Having the guts to post what you are trading for better or worse is cool. Your call on gold has been spot on compared to all of the other calls. I was tempted to go long yesterday in the morning and wimped out and am regretting it. [/quote]
Fvck. I got called into a meeting, during which cvx went to 67. Now it’s down back to 63. Damnit, damn expensive meeting…Oh well.
I don’t try to predict the markets, I just try to play and come out right more times than wrong.[/quote]
I’m out this morning. $66.9. We’re back about 9000 (for now)
October 20, 2008 at 8:13 AM #290071desmond
Participant“I’m out this morning. $66.9. We’re back about 9000 (for now)”
I am much more interested on how you lost over $400k in your wife’s account.
October 20, 2008 at 8:13 AM #290380desmond
Participant“I’m out this morning. $66.9. We’re back about 9000 (for now)”
I am much more interested on how you lost over $400k in your wife’s account.
October 20, 2008 at 8:13 AM #290386desmond
Participant“I’m out this morning. $66.9. We’re back about 9000 (for now)”
I am much more interested on how you lost over $400k in your wife’s account.
October 20, 2008 at 8:13 AM #290418desmond
Participant“I’m out this morning. $66.9. We’re back about 9000 (for now)”
I am much more interested on how you lost over $400k in your wife’s account.
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