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September 20, 2008 at 6:57 PM #273588September 21, 2008 at 12:41 AM #273360equalizerParticipant
WSJ: The plan offered to Congress also gives the Treasury legal immunity from any lawsuits. “Decisions by the secretary pursuant to the authority are non-reviewable … and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency,” the proposal says.
So Congress must sign complete blank check with no review. Any member who signs that version needs to know they will face extreme protest and be voted out.
September 21, 2008 at 12:41 AM #273606equalizerParticipantWSJ: The plan offered to Congress also gives the Treasury legal immunity from any lawsuits. “Decisions by the secretary pursuant to the authority are non-reviewable … and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency,” the proposal says.
So Congress must sign complete blank check with no review. Any member who signs that version needs to know they will face extreme protest and be voted out.
September 21, 2008 at 12:41 AM #273610equalizerParticipantWSJ: The plan offered to Congress also gives the Treasury legal immunity from any lawsuits. “Decisions by the secretary pursuant to the authority are non-reviewable … and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency,” the proposal says.
So Congress must sign complete blank check with no review. Any member who signs that version needs to know they will face extreme protest and be voted out.
September 21, 2008 at 12:41 AM #273654equalizerParticipantWSJ: The plan offered to Congress also gives the Treasury legal immunity from any lawsuits. “Decisions by the secretary pursuant to the authority are non-reviewable … and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency,” the proposal says.
So Congress must sign complete blank check with no review. Any member who signs that version needs to know they will face extreme protest and be voted out.
September 21, 2008 at 12:41 AM #273678equalizerParticipantWSJ: The plan offered to Congress also gives the Treasury legal immunity from any lawsuits. “Decisions by the secretary pursuant to the authority are non-reviewable … and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency,” the proposal says.
So Congress must sign complete blank check with no review. Any member who signs that version needs to know they will face extreme protest and be voted out.
September 21, 2008 at 5:37 AM #273390CoronitaParticipantWhat’s the point?
It’s election year.
The majority of the people probably in the short term wants to be bailed out of the house mess and wants the stock market to rise so they can borrow against their 401k to make those minimum payments on their CC and mortgages they spend on crap from Walmart.
Folks on this board who are financially responsible are probably in the minority, and if left up to pure democratic vote would be outnumbered by the majority of the people wanting for a bailout.
The only thing I think that could be done is like nostra said, buy off the politicians. But to do this , you need money. Anyone want to start raising a fund?
NOTE: this is why I still contribute to Ron Paul….He’s one of the few that’s actually standing up to this mess. On his website http://ronpaul.com
” “Our problems start with the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is a monopoly and it controls interest rates artificially low, causing people to make mistakes. That’s the basic source. But then on top of that in the housing market we had the Community Reinvestment Act which told investors that they had to loan to risky borrowers, and that was the complication.
HUD contributes to this. FDIC contributes to this. It’s called moral hazard. Everything that we have done over here creates moral hazard. That is, we assure people […] we’ll take care of everybody. “Just go out and take the risk.” It’s the opposite of the marketplace. And then they have people come along and say, “See, this is the failure of capitalism”. This has nothing to do with capitalism. This is something that started off as interventionism and as being too involved in the economy for the benefit of special interests, but now it’s being socialized out in the open.
We the taxpayers now own the mortgage companies, the insurance companies, and we’re gonna own a lot more. If our car companies need to be bailed out, believe me, it’s gonna happen, they’re not gonna let all our car companies go broke either.
But this will come to an end. The end of this comes when people reject the dollar. And I think we’re getting awfully close to this.” ”
September 21, 2008 at 5:37 AM #273636CoronitaParticipantWhat’s the point?
It’s election year.
The majority of the people probably in the short term wants to be bailed out of the house mess and wants the stock market to rise so they can borrow against their 401k to make those minimum payments on their CC and mortgages they spend on crap from Walmart.
Folks on this board who are financially responsible are probably in the minority, and if left up to pure democratic vote would be outnumbered by the majority of the people wanting for a bailout.
The only thing I think that could be done is like nostra said, buy off the politicians. But to do this , you need money. Anyone want to start raising a fund?
NOTE: this is why I still contribute to Ron Paul….He’s one of the few that’s actually standing up to this mess. On his website http://ronpaul.com
” “Our problems start with the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is a monopoly and it controls interest rates artificially low, causing people to make mistakes. That’s the basic source. But then on top of that in the housing market we had the Community Reinvestment Act which told investors that they had to loan to risky borrowers, and that was the complication.
HUD contributes to this. FDIC contributes to this. It’s called moral hazard. Everything that we have done over here creates moral hazard. That is, we assure people […] we’ll take care of everybody. “Just go out and take the risk.” It’s the opposite of the marketplace. And then they have people come along and say, “See, this is the failure of capitalism”. This has nothing to do with capitalism. This is something that started off as interventionism and as being too involved in the economy for the benefit of special interests, but now it’s being socialized out in the open.
We the taxpayers now own the mortgage companies, the insurance companies, and we’re gonna own a lot more. If our car companies need to be bailed out, believe me, it’s gonna happen, they’re not gonna let all our car companies go broke either.
But this will come to an end. The end of this comes when people reject the dollar. And I think we’re getting awfully close to this.” ”
September 21, 2008 at 5:37 AM #273641CoronitaParticipantWhat’s the point?
It’s election year.
The majority of the people probably in the short term wants to be bailed out of the house mess and wants the stock market to rise so they can borrow against their 401k to make those minimum payments on their CC and mortgages they spend on crap from Walmart.
Folks on this board who are financially responsible are probably in the minority, and if left up to pure democratic vote would be outnumbered by the majority of the people wanting for a bailout.
The only thing I think that could be done is like nostra said, buy off the politicians. But to do this , you need money. Anyone want to start raising a fund?
NOTE: this is why I still contribute to Ron Paul….He’s one of the few that’s actually standing up to this mess. On his website http://ronpaul.com
” “Our problems start with the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is a monopoly and it controls interest rates artificially low, causing people to make mistakes. That’s the basic source. But then on top of that in the housing market we had the Community Reinvestment Act which told investors that they had to loan to risky borrowers, and that was the complication.
HUD contributes to this. FDIC contributes to this. It’s called moral hazard. Everything that we have done over here creates moral hazard. That is, we assure people […] we’ll take care of everybody. “Just go out and take the risk.” It’s the opposite of the marketplace. And then they have people come along and say, “See, this is the failure of capitalism”. This has nothing to do with capitalism. This is something that started off as interventionism and as being too involved in the economy for the benefit of special interests, but now it’s being socialized out in the open.
We the taxpayers now own the mortgage companies, the insurance companies, and we’re gonna own a lot more. If our car companies need to be bailed out, believe me, it’s gonna happen, they’re not gonna let all our car companies go broke either.
But this will come to an end. The end of this comes when people reject the dollar. And I think we’re getting awfully close to this.” ”
September 21, 2008 at 5:37 AM #273684CoronitaParticipantWhat’s the point?
It’s election year.
The majority of the people probably in the short term wants to be bailed out of the house mess and wants the stock market to rise so they can borrow against their 401k to make those minimum payments on their CC and mortgages they spend on crap from Walmart.
Folks on this board who are financially responsible are probably in the minority, and if left up to pure democratic vote would be outnumbered by the majority of the people wanting for a bailout.
The only thing I think that could be done is like nostra said, buy off the politicians. But to do this , you need money. Anyone want to start raising a fund?
NOTE: this is why I still contribute to Ron Paul….He’s one of the few that’s actually standing up to this mess. On his website http://ronpaul.com
” “Our problems start with the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is a monopoly and it controls interest rates artificially low, causing people to make mistakes. That’s the basic source. But then on top of that in the housing market we had the Community Reinvestment Act which told investors that they had to loan to risky borrowers, and that was the complication.
HUD contributes to this. FDIC contributes to this. It’s called moral hazard. Everything that we have done over here creates moral hazard. That is, we assure people […] we’ll take care of everybody. “Just go out and take the risk.” It’s the opposite of the marketplace. And then they have people come along and say, “See, this is the failure of capitalism”. This has nothing to do with capitalism. This is something that started off as interventionism and as being too involved in the economy for the benefit of special interests, but now it’s being socialized out in the open.
We the taxpayers now own the mortgage companies, the insurance companies, and we’re gonna own a lot more. If our car companies need to be bailed out, believe me, it’s gonna happen, they’re not gonna let all our car companies go broke either.
But this will come to an end. The end of this comes when people reject the dollar. And I think we’re getting awfully close to this.” ”
September 21, 2008 at 5:37 AM #273708CoronitaParticipantWhat’s the point?
It’s election year.
The majority of the people probably in the short term wants to be bailed out of the house mess and wants the stock market to rise so they can borrow against their 401k to make those minimum payments on their CC and mortgages they spend on crap from Walmart.
Folks on this board who are financially responsible are probably in the minority, and if left up to pure democratic vote would be outnumbered by the majority of the people wanting for a bailout.
The only thing I think that could be done is like nostra said, buy off the politicians. But to do this , you need money. Anyone want to start raising a fund?
NOTE: this is why I still contribute to Ron Paul….He’s one of the few that’s actually standing up to this mess. On his website http://ronpaul.com
” “Our problems start with the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is a monopoly and it controls interest rates artificially low, causing people to make mistakes. That’s the basic source. But then on top of that in the housing market we had the Community Reinvestment Act which told investors that they had to loan to risky borrowers, and that was the complication.
HUD contributes to this. FDIC contributes to this. It’s called moral hazard. Everything that we have done over here creates moral hazard. That is, we assure people […] we’ll take care of everybody. “Just go out and take the risk.” It’s the opposite of the marketplace. And then they have people come along and say, “See, this is the failure of capitalism”. This has nothing to do with capitalism. This is something that started off as interventionism and as being too involved in the economy for the benefit of special interests, but now it’s being socialized out in the open.
We the taxpayers now own the mortgage companies, the insurance companies, and we’re gonna own a lot more. If our car companies need to be bailed out, believe me, it’s gonna happen, they’re not gonna let all our car companies go broke either.
But this will come to an end. The end of this comes when people reject the dollar. And I think we’re getting awfully close to this.” ”
September 21, 2008 at 9:54 AM #273455capemanParticipantYou can have your Senators, Reps and Regulators faxed by filling out Karl Denninger’s petition… it’s out of his pocket and he’s happy to do it.
September 21, 2008 at 9:54 AM #273700capemanParticipantYou can have your Senators, Reps and Regulators faxed by filling out Karl Denninger’s petition… it’s out of his pocket and he’s happy to do it.
September 21, 2008 at 9:54 AM #273705capemanParticipantYou can have your Senators, Reps and Regulators faxed by filling out Karl Denninger’s petition… it’s out of his pocket and he’s happy to do it.
September 21, 2008 at 9:54 AM #273749capemanParticipantYou can have your Senators, Reps and Regulators faxed by filling out Karl Denninger’s petition… it’s out of his pocket and he’s happy to do it.
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