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February 22, 2009 at 8:40 PM #352919February 22, 2009 at 10:02 PM #352390crParticipant
The SacBee site will tell you by name how much each state employee makes.
There are close to 200 departments including universities which means hundreds or thousands of workers in each dept. I looked at the Senators dept for example:
- 948 positions
- average salary is $68,504
- Top paid position is Secretary Of The Senate at $205,584
- Followed by 3 Chf. Asst. To Pro Tem (whatever that does) at $183,480
- Committee Assistants make anywhere from $47k to $68k – there are 42 of them
- Chief Of Staff/Cr average $112k – there are 38 of them
- Consultants average about $84k – there are 76 of them. How many consultants does the Senate dept need?
- Total of all salaries (excluding benefits) exceeds $65,000,000
I could go on and on, and this is one of the nearly 200 state departments.
It’s pathetic that they refuse to cut even just 10% of these jobs. See for yourself.
http://www.sacbee.com/statepay/
For those of you who think the rich should be taxed more: http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/pdf/BudgetSummary/RevenueEstimates.pdf see figure REV-03.
LA btw has about half of its $7 billion budget go to payroll.
February 22, 2009 at 10:02 PM #352702crParticipantThe SacBee site will tell you by name how much each state employee makes.
There are close to 200 departments including universities which means hundreds or thousands of workers in each dept. I looked at the Senators dept for example:
- 948 positions
- average salary is $68,504
- Top paid position is Secretary Of The Senate at $205,584
- Followed by 3 Chf. Asst. To Pro Tem (whatever that does) at $183,480
- Committee Assistants make anywhere from $47k to $68k – there are 42 of them
- Chief Of Staff/Cr average $112k – there are 38 of them
- Consultants average about $84k – there are 76 of them. How many consultants does the Senate dept need?
- Total of all salaries (excluding benefits) exceeds $65,000,000
I could go on and on, and this is one of the nearly 200 state departments.
It’s pathetic that they refuse to cut even just 10% of these jobs. See for yourself.
http://www.sacbee.com/statepay/
For those of you who think the rich should be taxed more: http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/pdf/BudgetSummary/RevenueEstimates.pdf see figure REV-03.
LA btw has about half of its $7 billion budget go to payroll.
February 22, 2009 at 10:02 PM #352832crParticipantThe SacBee site will tell you by name how much each state employee makes.
There are close to 200 departments including universities which means hundreds or thousands of workers in each dept. I looked at the Senators dept for example:
- 948 positions
- average salary is $68,504
- Top paid position is Secretary Of The Senate at $205,584
- Followed by 3 Chf. Asst. To Pro Tem (whatever that does) at $183,480
- Committee Assistants make anywhere from $47k to $68k – there are 42 of them
- Chief Of Staff/Cr average $112k – there are 38 of them
- Consultants average about $84k – there are 76 of them. How many consultants does the Senate dept need?
- Total of all salaries (excluding benefits) exceeds $65,000,000
I could go on and on, and this is one of the nearly 200 state departments.
It’s pathetic that they refuse to cut even just 10% of these jobs. See for yourself.
http://www.sacbee.com/statepay/
For those of you who think the rich should be taxed more: http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/pdf/BudgetSummary/RevenueEstimates.pdf see figure REV-03.
LA btw has about half of its $7 billion budget go to payroll.
February 22, 2009 at 10:02 PM #352863crParticipantThe SacBee site will tell you by name how much each state employee makes.
There are close to 200 departments including universities which means hundreds or thousands of workers in each dept. I looked at the Senators dept for example:
- 948 positions
- average salary is $68,504
- Top paid position is Secretary Of The Senate at $205,584
- Followed by 3 Chf. Asst. To Pro Tem (whatever that does) at $183,480
- Committee Assistants make anywhere from $47k to $68k – there are 42 of them
- Chief Of Staff/Cr average $112k – there are 38 of them
- Consultants average about $84k – there are 76 of them. How many consultants does the Senate dept need?
- Total of all salaries (excluding benefits) exceeds $65,000,000
I could go on and on, and this is one of the nearly 200 state departments.
It’s pathetic that they refuse to cut even just 10% of these jobs. See for yourself.
http://www.sacbee.com/statepay/
For those of you who think the rich should be taxed more: http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/pdf/BudgetSummary/RevenueEstimates.pdf see figure REV-03.
LA btw has about half of its $7 billion budget go to payroll.
February 22, 2009 at 10:02 PM #352964crParticipantThe SacBee site will tell you by name how much each state employee makes.
There are close to 200 departments including universities which means hundreds or thousands of workers in each dept. I looked at the Senators dept for example:
- 948 positions
- average salary is $68,504
- Top paid position is Secretary Of The Senate at $205,584
- Followed by 3 Chf. Asst. To Pro Tem (whatever that does) at $183,480
- Committee Assistants make anywhere from $47k to $68k – there are 42 of them
- Chief Of Staff/Cr average $112k – there are 38 of them
- Consultants average about $84k – there are 76 of them. How many consultants does the Senate dept need?
- Total of all salaries (excluding benefits) exceeds $65,000,000
I could go on and on, and this is one of the nearly 200 state departments.
It’s pathetic that they refuse to cut even just 10% of these jobs. See for yourself.
http://www.sacbee.com/statepay/
For those of you who think the rich should be taxed more: http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/pdf/BudgetSummary/RevenueEstimates.pdf see figure REV-03.
LA btw has about half of its $7 billion budget go to payroll.
February 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM #352405paramountParticipantThis was in the Union Tribune Today:
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/feb/22/1m22stetz23591-sounding-alarm-public-pensions/
Some excerpts:
In San Diego, a retired assistant (assistant??) city attorney is getting $235,003 a year in pension benefits even though the most he made in a single year was $152,792.
In Omaha, Neb., the pension board recently approved an $84,000 annual pension for a police sergeant (a sergeant??) who retired after 22 years of service with a base salary of $66,000 a year.
February 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM #352717paramountParticipantThis was in the Union Tribune Today:
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/feb/22/1m22stetz23591-sounding-alarm-public-pensions/
Some excerpts:
In San Diego, a retired assistant (assistant??) city attorney is getting $235,003 a year in pension benefits even though the most he made in a single year was $152,792.
In Omaha, Neb., the pension board recently approved an $84,000 annual pension for a police sergeant (a sergeant??) who retired after 22 years of service with a base salary of $66,000 a year.
February 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM #352847paramountParticipantThis was in the Union Tribune Today:
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/feb/22/1m22stetz23591-sounding-alarm-public-pensions/
Some excerpts:
In San Diego, a retired assistant (assistant??) city attorney is getting $235,003 a year in pension benefits even though the most he made in a single year was $152,792.
In Omaha, Neb., the pension board recently approved an $84,000 annual pension for a police sergeant (a sergeant??) who retired after 22 years of service with a base salary of $66,000 a year.
February 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM #352878paramountParticipantThis was in the Union Tribune Today:
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/feb/22/1m22stetz23591-sounding-alarm-public-pensions/
Some excerpts:
In San Diego, a retired assistant (assistant??) city attorney is getting $235,003 a year in pension benefits even though the most he made in a single year was $152,792.
In Omaha, Neb., the pension board recently approved an $84,000 annual pension for a police sergeant (a sergeant??) who retired after 22 years of service with a base salary of $66,000 a year.
February 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM #352979paramountParticipantThis was in the Union Tribune Today:
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/feb/22/1m22stetz23591-sounding-alarm-public-pensions/
Some excerpts:
In San Diego, a retired assistant (assistant??) city attorney is getting $235,003 a year in pension benefits even though the most he made in a single year was $152,792.
In Omaha, Neb., the pension board recently approved an $84,000 annual pension for a police sergeant (a sergeant??) who retired after 22 years of service with a base salary of $66,000 a year.
February 22, 2009 at 11:22 PM #352425DWCAPParticipant[quote=flu]Anyone see the Carmel Valley “newspaper” lately? Looks like with the budget cuts, a lot of those afterschool programs are about to be axed along with some teachers.
…Why is it that when the state has a budget issue, the first places people love to cut is schools? Just curious if there is a correlation to CA being at the bottom of the education stack in the U.S. and what our state government/fed chooses to axe first.At least the superintendent sort of speaks the talk:
“We haven’t been happy in tackling these cuts,” McClain said. “But we can’t continue to live beyond our means and maintain our budget.”Fortunately, not “bad” cuts yet, just all the bells and whistles…But me thinks it’s going to get a lot worse….
Here’s the soft-print version:
http://www.carmelvalleyleader.com/news/253699-dmusd-considers-laying-off-19-esc-teachersDMUSD considers laying off 19 ESC teachers
Feb 12, 2009
By Karen BillingAs many as 19 teachers in the Extended Studies Curriculum program may be laid off and the Del Mar Union School District Board of Trustees may cut out the art and physical education arms of that curriculum if the school board approves Superintendent Sharon McClain recommendations.
At the school board’s Feb. 11 meeting, McClain recommended that the ESC program be trimmed to include only technology, science and music based on input from parent surveys asking which programs they valued most.
“We haven’t been happy in tackling these cuts,” McClain said. “But we can’t continue to live beyond our means and maintain our budget.”
Currently there are 39 teachers in the ESC program and only 19 are needed to cover the contractual agreement of the program, McClain said. Seniority will play into the lay-off decisions and teachers are expected to receive preliminary notice by March 15.
A final decision on the cuts is expected to come at the next board meeting on Feb. 25 at 6 p.m.
About 50 people attended Wednesday night’s meeting at Del Mar Hills Academy.
Public comment included an art teacher near tears and a student who expressed how much her art and PE classes mean to her.
The cuts do not mean that PE and art won’t be taught in district schools. The subjects are already taught in the classroom. The cuts mean that they won’t be taught by specialized teachers in the ESC program, who bring “depth and complexity” to these subjects.
The board also discussed a shift in the way the ESC program is funded. By the 2010-11 school year, there will be no more site-specific fundraising for programs. Funds donated to the Del Mar School Education Foundation will be spread out among all schools equally, to provide parity.
As fundraising efforts have already begun at school sites for the 2009-2010 school year, McClain recommended giving schools until April 15 to raise the money needed to keep their ESC programs in 2009-2010.
Some parents expressed concern about specific sites not raising enough in that short timeline.[/quote]
Schools get the axe first cause they take the most. HALF goes to schools. HALF. It makes it hard to not cut schools.
And I may be a prick, but I think these are the kinda programs that need to go in a budget as bad as this one. Some kids not getting EXTRA gym isnt the worst thing to ever happen. Is it good, no, not claiming it is. But the sociatal costs of this cut compaired to some others is quite low. Besides, go play a sport. I am sure those programs were not cut. Or go for a run, or maybe, just maybe, play a sport with your kids after work. Or art. I know alot of people who can paint without the help of a teacher. Especially when these kids already had an hour of art instruction that day.February 22, 2009 at 11:22 PM #352737DWCAPParticipant[quote=flu]Anyone see the Carmel Valley “newspaper” lately? Looks like with the budget cuts, a lot of those afterschool programs are about to be axed along with some teachers.
…Why is it that when the state has a budget issue, the first places people love to cut is schools? Just curious if there is a correlation to CA being at the bottom of the education stack in the U.S. and what our state government/fed chooses to axe first.At least the superintendent sort of speaks the talk:
“We haven’t been happy in tackling these cuts,” McClain said. “But we can’t continue to live beyond our means and maintain our budget.”Fortunately, not “bad” cuts yet, just all the bells and whistles…But me thinks it’s going to get a lot worse….
Here’s the soft-print version:
http://www.carmelvalleyleader.com/news/253699-dmusd-considers-laying-off-19-esc-teachersDMUSD considers laying off 19 ESC teachers
Feb 12, 2009
By Karen BillingAs many as 19 teachers in the Extended Studies Curriculum program may be laid off and the Del Mar Union School District Board of Trustees may cut out the art and physical education arms of that curriculum if the school board approves Superintendent Sharon McClain recommendations.
At the school board’s Feb. 11 meeting, McClain recommended that the ESC program be trimmed to include only technology, science and music based on input from parent surveys asking which programs they valued most.
“We haven’t been happy in tackling these cuts,” McClain said. “But we can’t continue to live beyond our means and maintain our budget.”
Currently there are 39 teachers in the ESC program and only 19 are needed to cover the contractual agreement of the program, McClain said. Seniority will play into the lay-off decisions and teachers are expected to receive preliminary notice by March 15.
A final decision on the cuts is expected to come at the next board meeting on Feb. 25 at 6 p.m.
About 50 people attended Wednesday night’s meeting at Del Mar Hills Academy.
Public comment included an art teacher near tears and a student who expressed how much her art and PE classes mean to her.
The cuts do not mean that PE and art won’t be taught in district schools. The subjects are already taught in the classroom. The cuts mean that they won’t be taught by specialized teachers in the ESC program, who bring “depth and complexity” to these subjects.
The board also discussed a shift in the way the ESC program is funded. By the 2010-11 school year, there will be no more site-specific fundraising for programs. Funds donated to the Del Mar School Education Foundation will be spread out among all schools equally, to provide parity.
As fundraising efforts have already begun at school sites for the 2009-2010 school year, McClain recommended giving schools until April 15 to raise the money needed to keep their ESC programs in 2009-2010.
Some parents expressed concern about specific sites not raising enough in that short timeline.[/quote]
Schools get the axe first cause they take the most. HALF goes to schools. HALF. It makes it hard to not cut schools.
And I may be a prick, but I think these are the kinda programs that need to go in a budget as bad as this one. Some kids not getting EXTRA gym isnt the worst thing to ever happen. Is it good, no, not claiming it is. But the sociatal costs of this cut compaired to some others is quite low. Besides, go play a sport. I am sure those programs were not cut. Or go for a run, or maybe, just maybe, play a sport with your kids after work. Or art. I know alot of people who can paint without the help of a teacher. Especially when these kids already had an hour of art instruction that day.February 22, 2009 at 11:22 PM #352867DWCAPParticipant[quote=flu]Anyone see the Carmel Valley “newspaper” lately? Looks like with the budget cuts, a lot of those afterschool programs are about to be axed along with some teachers.
…Why is it that when the state has a budget issue, the first places people love to cut is schools? Just curious if there is a correlation to CA being at the bottom of the education stack in the U.S. and what our state government/fed chooses to axe first.At least the superintendent sort of speaks the talk:
“We haven’t been happy in tackling these cuts,” McClain said. “But we can’t continue to live beyond our means and maintain our budget.”Fortunately, not “bad” cuts yet, just all the bells and whistles…But me thinks it’s going to get a lot worse….
Here’s the soft-print version:
http://www.carmelvalleyleader.com/news/253699-dmusd-considers-laying-off-19-esc-teachersDMUSD considers laying off 19 ESC teachers
Feb 12, 2009
By Karen BillingAs many as 19 teachers in the Extended Studies Curriculum program may be laid off and the Del Mar Union School District Board of Trustees may cut out the art and physical education arms of that curriculum if the school board approves Superintendent Sharon McClain recommendations.
At the school board’s Feb. 11 meeting, McClain recommended that the ESC program be trimmed to include only technology, science and music based on input from parent surveys asking which programs they valued most.
“We haven’t been happy in tackling these cuts,” McClain said. “But we can’t continue to live beyond our means and maintain our budget.”
Currently there are 39 teachers in the ESC program and only 19 are needed to cover the contractual agreement of the program, McClain said. Seniority will play into the lay-off decisions and teachers are expected to receive preliminary notice by March 15.
A final decision on the cuts is expected to come at the next board meeting on Feb. 25 at 6 p.m.
About 50 people attended Wednesday night’s meeting at Del Mar Hills Academy.
Public comment included an art teacher near tears and a student who expressed how much her art and PE classes mean to her.
The cuts do not mean that PE and art won’t be taught in district schools. The subjects are already taught in the classroom. The cuts mean that they won’t be taught by specialized teachers in the ESC program, who bring “depth and complexity” to these subjects.
The board also discussed a shift in the way the ESC program is funded. By the 2010-11 school year, there will be no more site-specific fundraising for programs. Funds donated to the Del Mar School Education Foundation will be spread out among all schools equally, to provide parity.
As fundraising efforts have already begun at school sites for the 2009-2010 school year, McClain recommended giving schools until April 15 to raise the money needed to keep their ESC programs in 2009-2010.
Some parents expressed concern about specific sites not raising enough in that short timeline.[/quote]
Schools get the axe first cause they take the most. HALF goes to schools. HALF. It makes it hard to not cut schools.
And I may be a prick, but I think these are the kinda programs that need to go in a budget as bad as this one. Some kids not getting EXTRA gym isnt the worst thing to ever happen. Is it good, no, not claiming it is. But the sociatal costs of this cut compaired to some others is quite low. Besides, go play a sport. I am sure those programs were not cut. Or go for a run, or maybe, just maybe, play a sport with your kids after work. Or art. I know alot of people who can paint without the help of a teacher. Especially when these kids already had an hour of art instruction that day.February 22, 2009 at 11:22 PM #352898DWCAPParticipant[quote=flu]Anyone see the Carmel Valley “newspaper” lately? Looks like with the budget cuts, a lot of those afterschool programs are about to be axed along with some teachers.
…Why is it that when the state has a budget issue, the first places people love to cut is schools? Just curious if there is a correlation to CA being at the bottom of the education stack in the U.S. and what our state government/fed chooses to axe first.At least the superintendent sort of speaks the talk:
“We haven’t been happy in tackling these cuts,” McClain said. “But we can’t continue to live beyond our means and maintain our budget.”Fortunately, not “bad” cuts yet, just all the bells and whistles…But me thinks it’s going to get a lot worse….
Here’s the soft-print version:
http://www.carmelvalleyleader.com/news/253699-dmusd-considers-laying-off-19-esc-teachersDMUSD considers laying off 19 ESC teachers
Feb 12, 2009
By Karen BillingAs many as 19 teachers in the Extended Studies Curriculum program may be laid off and the Del Mar Union School District Board of Trustees may cut out the art and physical education arms of that curriculum if the school board approves Superintendent Sharon McClain recommendations.
At the school board’s Feb. 11 meeting, McClain recommended that the ESC program be trimmed to include only technology, science and music based on input from parent surveys asking which programs they valued most.
“We haven’t been happy in tackling these cuts,” McClain said. “But we can’t continue to live beyond our means and maintain our budget.”
Currently there are 39 teachers in the ESC program and only 19 are needed to cover the contractual agreement of the program, McClain said. Seniority will play into the lay-off decisions and teachers are expected to receive preliminary notice by March 15.
A final decision on the cuts is expected to come at the next board meeting on Feb. 25 at 6 p.m.
About 50 people attended Wednesday night’s meeting at Del Mar Hills Academy.
Public comment included an art teacher near tears and a student who expressed how much her art and PE classes mean to her.
The cuts do not mean that PE and art won’t be taught in district schools. The subjects are already taught in the classroom. The cuts mean that they won’t be taught by specialized teachers in the ESC program, who bring “depth and complexity” to these subjects.
The board also discussed a shift in the way the ESC program is funded. By the 2010-11 school year, there will be no more site-specific fundraising for programs. Funds donated to the Del Mar School Education Foundation will be spread out among all schools equally, to provide parity.
As fundraising efforts have already begun at school sites for the 2009-2010 school year, McClain recommended giving schools until April 15 to raise the money needed to keep their ESC programs in 2009-2010.
Some parents expressed concern about specific sites not raising enough in that short timeline.[/quote]
Schools get the axe first cause they take the most. HALF goes to schools. HALF. It makes it hard to not cut schools.
And I may be a prick, but I think these are the kinda programs that need to go in a budget as bad as this one. Some kids not getting EXTRA gym isnt the worst thing to ever happen. Is it good, no, not claiming it is. But the sociatal costs of this cut compaired to some others is quite low. Besides, go play a sport. I am sure those programs were not cut. Or go for a run, or maybe, just maybe, play a sport with your kids after work. Or art. I know alot of people who can paint without the help of a teacher. Especially when these kids already had an hour of art instruction that day. -
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