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August 6, 2008 at 7:59 AM #253488August 6, 2008 at 10:07 AM #253323Jim JonesParticipant
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I remember the stores in the mall out in those parts was having some killer sales…maybe the toll road just isn’t getting used enough?
[/quote]From what I have seen living down here to I don’t think that Otay Ranch Town Center Mall is doing very well either, the anchor stores will probably survive but the small boutique shops are getting hammered. You cant afford $200 designer jeans when you McMansion just tanked in value by $250,000 and you owe all that money back because you pulled it out on a HELOC!
As for the toll road first is should have been built as a major artery by the government to help trucks move the the border. Second the price is way to high for the trip. I only take the toll road if I am in Santee and heading back to east Chula Vista. I save money on gas not having to take the surface streets or driving back to the 805. Third I don’t think they are bringing in the money they expected to. Even at rush hour the road is not very busy.
If they were smart they would let people by toll trips up front on the FastTrack system at a discount and use them when they wanted like a pay as you go. The tolls should also be variable. To pay $2.50 on Saturday morning when the road is dead empty is not a smart business model. Charge the full toll at peak times and lower it at others.
August 6, 2008 at 10:07 AM #253489Jim JonesParticipant[quote=Shadowfax]
I remember the stores in the mall out in those parts was having some killer sales…maybe the toll road just isn’t getting used enough?
[/quote]From what I have seen living down here to I don’t think that Otay Ranch Town Center Mall is doing very well either, the anchor stores will probably survive but the small boutique shops are getting hammered. You cant afford $200 designer jeans when you McMansion just tanked in value by $250,000 and you owe all that money back because you pulled it out on a HELOC!
As for the toll road first is should have been built as a major artery by the government to help trucks move the the border. Second the price is way to high for the trip. I only take the toll road if I am in Santee and heading back to east Chula Vista. I save money on gas not having to take the surface streets or driving back to the 805. Third I don’t think they are bringing in the money they expected to. Even at rush hour the road is not very busy.
If they were smart they would let people by toll trips up front on the FastTrack system at a discount and use them when they wanted like a pay as you go. The tolls should also be variable. To pay $2.50 on Saturday morning when the road is dead empty is not a smart business model. Charge the full toll at peak times and lower it at others.
August 6, 2008 at 10:07 AM #253496Jim JonesParticipant[quote=Shadowfax]
I remember the stores in the mall out in those parts was having some killer sales…maybe the toll road just isn’t getting used enough?
[/quote]From what I have seen living down here to I don’t think that Otay Ranch Town Center Mall is doing very well either, the anchor stores will probably survive but the small boutique shops are getting hammered. You cant afford $200 designer jeans when you McMansion just tanked in value by $250,000 and you owe all that money back because you pulled it out on a HELOC!
As for the toll road first is should have been built as a major artery by the government to help trucks move the the border. Second the price is way to high for the trip. I only take the toll road if I am in Santee and heading back to east Chula Vista. I save money on gas not having to take the surface streets or driving back to the 805. Third I don’t think they are bringing in the money they expected to. Even at rush hour the road is not very busy.
If they were smart they would let people by toll trips up front on the FastTrack system at a discount and use them when they wanted like a pay as you go. The tolls should also be variable. To pay $2.50 on Saturday morning when the road is dead empty is not a smart business model. Charge the full toll at peak times and lower it at others.
August 6, 2008 at 10:07 AM #253555Jim JonesParticipant[quote=Shadowfax]
I remember the stores in the mall out in those parts was having some killer sales…maybe the toll road just isn’t getting used enough?
[/quote]From what I have seen living down here to I don’t think that Otay Ranch Town Center Mall is doing very well either, the anchor stores will probably survive but the small boutique shops are getting hammered. You cant afford $200 designer jeans when you McMansion just tanked in value by $250,000 and you owe all that money back because you pulled it out on a HELOC!
As for the toll road first is should have been built as a major artery by the government to help trucks move the the border. Second the price is way to high for the trip. I only take the toll road if I am in Santee and heading back to east Chula Vista. I save money on gas not having to take the surface streets or driving back to the 805. Third I don’t think they are bringing in the money they expected to. Even at rush hour the road is not very busy.
If they were smart they would let people by toll trips up front on the FastTrack system at a discount and use them when they wanted like a pay as you go. The tolls should also be variable. To pay $2.50 on Saturday morning when the road is dead empty is not a smart business model. Charge the full toll at peak times and lower it at others.
August 6, 2008 at 10:07 AM #253557Jim JonesParticipant[quote=Shadowfax]
I remember the stores in the mall out in those parts was having some killer sales…maybe the toll road just isn’t getting used enough?
[/quote]From what I have seen living down here to I don’t think that Otay Ranch Town Center Mall is doing very well either, the anchor stores will probably survive but the small boutique shops are getting hammered. You cant afford $200 designer jeans when you McMansion just tanked in value by $250,000 and you owe all that money back because you pulled it out on a HELOC!
As for the toll road first is should have been built as a major artery by the government to help trucks move the the border. Second the price is way to high for the trip. I only take the toll road if I am in Santee and heading back to east Chula Vista. I save money on gas not having to take the surface streets or driving back to the 805. Third I don’t think they are bringing in the money they expected to. Even at rush hour the road is not very busy.
If they were smart they would let people by toll trips up front on the FastTrack system at a discount and use them when they wanted like a pay as you go. The tolls should also be variable. To pay $2.50 on Saturday morning when the road is dead empty is not a smart business model. Charge the full toll at peak times and lower it at others.
January 13, 2009 at 11:11 PM #328386Jim JonesParticipantJust an update on the toll road down here in the South Bay. They say they get 30,000 vehicles a day I find that number to be on the high side.
It looks like toll are about to go up also. I am for bailing this one out as it should have never been a toll road in the first place. They developers should have been forced by the city to kick in if they wanted to build in the area.
Tollway prices to increase next week
30,000 vehicles use South Bay roadway
By Steve Schmidt (Contact) Union-Tribune Staff Writer2:00 a.m. January 13, 2009
The cost of driving the South Bay Expressway, the four-lane tollway that debuted in late 2007, will increase by as much as 75 cents starting late next week.
South Bay Expressway Ltd. Partnership, the private company that manages the north-south road, announced yesterday that it would boost tolls effective Jan. 24.
“Obviously, no one likes it when prices go up,” said Greg Hulsizer, company chief executive officer. He said the increases are needed to cover additional operating costs, including recent increases in property taxes, water bills and what the California Highway Patrol charges to patrol the roadway.
Tolls for cash-paying customers will increase 50 to 75 cents, to a range of $2.50 to $4.50 per trip, depending on length. The highway runs from Spring Valley to Otay Mesa.
Many motorists using FasTrak, an electronic tolling device, will pay 25 to 50 cents more than they do now, with a range of $2 to $3.85 per trip. FasTrak rides between Birch Road and East H Street in Chula Vista will continue to cost 75 cents.
Hulsizer said just under 30,000 vehicles travel at least part of the 10-mile roadway each weekday, easing congestion on Interstate 805 and other roads.
He said his company recently informed local and state agencies, including the city of Chula Vista, about the toll increases. He said no major objections were raised.
As part of its 35-year contract with the state, the company can periodically raise rates to cover the cost of managing and maintaining the tollway.
Hulsizer said the increases are unrelated to the financial problems facing the partnership’s parent company, Macquarie Infrastructure Group of Australia, one of the world’s largest toll road operators.
According to Australian media reports, the value of Macquarie’s global toll road portfolio has plunged in recent months, partly due to a drop traffic volume.
January 13, 2009 at 11:11 PM #328724Jim JonesParticipantJust an update on the toll road down here in the South Bay. They say they get 30,000 vehicles a day I find that number to be on the high side.
It looks like toll are about to go up also. I am for bailing this one out as it should have never been a toll road in the first place. They developers should have been forced by the city to kick in if they wanted to build in the area.
Tollway prices to increase next week
30,000 vehicles use South Bay roadway
By Steve Schmidt (Contact) Union-Tribune Staff Writer2:00 a.m. January 13, 2009
The cost of driving the South Bay Expressway, the four-lane tollway that debuted in late 2007, will increase by as much as 75 cents starting late next week.
South Bay Expressway Ltd. Partnership, the private company that manages the north-south road, announced yesterday that it would boost tolls effective Jan. 24.
“Obviously, no one likes it when prices go up,” said Greg Hulsizer, company chief executive officer. He said the increases are needed to cover additional operating costs, including recent increases in property taxes, water bills and what the California Highway Patrol charges to patrol the roadway.
Tolls for cash-paying customers will increase 50 to 75 cents, to a range of $2.50 to $4.50 per trip, depending on length. The highway runs from Spring Valley to Otay Mesa.
Many motorists using FasTrak, an electronic tolling device, will pay 25 to 50 cents more than they do now, with a range of $2 to $3.85 per trip. FasTrak rides between Birch Road and East H Street in Chula Vista will continue to cost 75 cents.
Hulsizer said just under 30,000 vehicles travel at least part of the 10-mile roadway each weekday, easing congestion on Interstate 805 and other roads.
He said his company recently informed local and state agencies, including the city of Chula Vista, about the toll increases. He said no major objections were raised.
As part of its 35-year contract with the state, the company can periodically raise rates to cover the cost of managing and maintaining the tollway.
Hulsizer said the increases are unrelated to the financial problems facing the partnership’s parent company, Macquarie Infrastructure Group of Australia, one of the world’s largest toll road operators.
According to Australian media reports, the value of Macquarie’s global toll road portfolio has plunged in recent months, partly due to a drop traffic volume.
January 13, 2009 at 11:11 PM #328795Jim JonesParticipantJust an update on the toll road down here in the South Bay. They say they get 30,000 vehicles a day I find that number to be on the high side.
It looks like toll are about to go up also. I am for bailing this one out as it should have never been a toll road in the first place. They developers should have been forced by the city to kick in if they wanted to build in the area.
Tollway prices to increase next week
30,000 vehicles use South Bay roadway
By Steve Schmidt (Contact) Union-Tribune Staff Writer2:00 a.m. January 13, 2009
The cost of driving the South Bay Expressway, the four-lane tollway that debuted in late 2007, will increase by as much as 75 cents starting late next week.
South Bay Expressway Ltd. Partnership, the private company that manages the north-south road, announced yesterday that it would boost tolls effective Jan. 24.
“Obviously, no one likes it when prices go up,” said Greg Hulsizer, company chief executive officer. He said the increases are needed to cover additional operating costs, including recent increases in property taxes, water bills and what the California Highway Patrol charges to patrol the roadway.
Tolls for cash-paying customers will increase 50 to 75 cents, to a range of $2.50 to $4.50 per trip, depending on length. The highway runs from Spring Valley to Otay Mesa.
Many motorists using FasTrak, an electronic tolling device, will pay 25 to 50 cents more than they do now, with a range of $2 to $3.85 per trip. FasTrak rides between Birch Road and East H Street in Chula Vista will continue to cost 75 cents.
Hulsizer said just under 30,000 vehicles travel at least part of the 10-mile roadway each weekday, easing congestion on Interstate 805 and other roads.
He said his company recently informed local and state agencies, including the city of Chula Vista, about the toll increases. He said no major objections were raised.
As part of its 35-year contract with the state, the company can periodically raise rates to cover the cost of managing and maintaining the tollway.
Hulsizer said the increases are unrelated to the financial problems facing the partnership’s parent company, Macquarie Infrastructure Group of Australia, one of the world’s largest toll road operators.
According to Australian media reports, the value of Macquarie’s global toll road portfolio has plunged in recent months, partly due to a drop traffic volume.
January 13, 2009 at 11:11 PM #328819Jim JonesParticipantJust an update on the toll road down here in the South Bay. They say they get 30,000 vehicles a day I find that number to be on the high side.
It looks like toll are about to go up also. I am for bailing this one out as it should have never been a toll road in the first place. They developers should have been forced by the city to kick in if they wanted to build in the area.
Tollway prices to increase next week
30,000 vehicles use South Bay roadway
By Steve Schmidt (Contact) Union-Tribune Staff Writer2:00 a.m. January 13, 2009
The cost of driving the South Bay Expressway, the four-lane tollway that debuted in late 2007, will increase by as much as 75 cents starting late next week.
South Bay Expressway Ltd. Partnership, the private company that manages the north-south road, announced yesterday that it would boost tolls effective Jan. 24.
“Obviously, no one likes it when prices go up,” said Greg Hulsizer, company chief executive officer. He said the increases are needed to cover additional operating costs, including recent increases in property taxes, water bills and what the California Highway Patrol charges to patrol the roadway.
Tolls for cash-paying customers will increase 50 to 75 cents, to a range of $2.50 to $4.50 per trip, depending on length. The highway runs from Spring Valley to Otay Mesa.
Many motorists using FasTrak, an electronic tolling device, will pay 25 to 50 cents more than they do now, with a range of $2 to $3.85 per trip. FasTrak rides between Birch Road and East H Street in Chula Vista will continue to cost 75 cents.
Hulsizer said just under 30,000 vehicles travel at least part of the 10-mile roadway each weekday, easing congestion on Interstate 805 and other roads.
He said his company recently informed local and state agencies, including the city of Chula Vista, about the toll increases. He said no major objections were raised.
As part of its 35-year contract with the state, the company can periodically raise rates to cover the cost of managing and maintaining the tollway.
Hulsizer said the increases are unrelated to the financial problems facing the partnership’s parent company, Macquarie Infrastructure Group of Australia, one of the world’s largest toll road operators.
According to Australian media reports, the value of Macquarie’s global toll road portfolio has plunged in recent months, partly due to a drop traffic volume.
January 13, 2009 at 11:11 PM #328902Jim JonesParticipantJust an update on the toll road down here in the South Bay. They say they get 30,000 vehicles a day I find that number to be on the high side.
It looks like toll are about to go up also. I am for bailing this one out as it should have never been a toll road in the first place. They developers should have been forced by the city to kick in if they wanted to build in the area.
Tollway prices to increase next week
30,000 vehicles use South Bay roadway
By Steve Schmidt (Contact) Union-Tribune Staff Writer2:00 a.m. January 13, 2009
The cost of driving the South Bay Expressway, the four-lane tollway that debuted in late 2007, will increase by as much as 75 cents starting late next week.
South Bay Expressway Ltd. Partnership, the private company that manages the north-south road, announced yesterday that it would boost tolls effective Jan. 24.
“Obviously, no one likes it when prices go up,” said Greg Hulsizer, company chief executive officer. He said the increases are needed to cover additional operating costs, including recent increases in property taxes, water bills and what the California Highway Patrol charges to patrol the roadway.
Tolls for cash-paying customers will increase 50 to 75 cents, to a range of $2.50 to $4.50 per trip, depending on length. The highway runs from Spring Valley to Otay Mesa.
Many motorists using FasTrak, an electronic tolling device, will pay 25 to 50 cents more than they do now, with a range of $2 to $3.85 per trip. FasTrak rides between Birch Road and East H Street in Chula Vista will continue to cost 75 cents.
Hulsizer said just under 30,000 vehicles travel at least part of the 10-mile roadway each weekday, easing congestion on Interstate 805 and other roads.
He said his company recently informed local and state agencies, including the city of Chula Vista, about the toll increases. He said no major objections were raised.
As part of its 35-year contract with the state, the company can periodically raise rates to cover the cost of managing and maintaining the tollway.
Hulsizer said the increases are unrelated to the financial problems facing the partnership’s parent company, Macquarie Infrastructure Group of Australia, one of the world’s largest toll road operators.
According to Australian media reports, the value of Macquarie’s global toll road portfolio has plunged in recent months, partly due to a drop traffic volume.
January 28, 2009 at 10:48 AM #337642AnonymousGuestI heard that it was never supposed to be a toll road, and that housing developers promised buyers that the 125 would make the commute into the city easier. When I bought my house in April I thought the toll was unusually high, even when I got the fast track I ended up spending at least 80 dollars a month just on tolls. Now they want to increase it? Are you kidding?! It’s an insult as it is that when I have visitors to my house that they either have to spend money on the toll, or make the painful drive to the 805. If the company kept to their original budget we would never have had this problem. Don’t they also realize that lowering the toll would increase the amount of people on the road and balance out or even make them more money?
January 28, 2009 at 10:48 AM #337973AnonymousGuestI heard that it was never supposed to be a toll road, and that housing developers promised buyers that the 125 would make the commute into the city easier. When I bought my house in April I thought the toll was unusually high, even when I got the fast track I ended up spending at least 80 dollars a month just on tolls. Now they want to increase it? Are you kidding?! It’s an insult as it is that when I have visitors to my house that they either have to spend money on the toll, or make the painful drive to the 805. If the company kept to their original budget we would never have had this problem. Don’t they also realize that lowering the toll would increase the amount of people on the road and balance out or even make them more money?
January 28, 2009 at 10:48 AM #338064AnonymousGuestI heard that it was never supposed to be a toll road, and that housing developers promised buyers that the 125 would make the commute into the city easier. When I bought my house in April I thought the toll was unusually high, even when I got the fast track I ended up spending at least 80 dollars a month just on tolls. Now they want to increase it? Are you kidding?! It’s an insult as it is that when I have visitors to my house that they either have to spend money on the toll, or make the painful drive to the 805. If the company kept to their original budget we would never have had this problem. Don’t they also realize that lowering the toll would increase the amount of people on the road and balance out or even make them more money?
January 28, 2009 at 10:48 AM #338090AnonymousGuestI heard that it was never supposed to be a toll road, and that housing developers promised buyers that the 125 would make the commute into the city easier. When I bought my house in April I thought the toll was unusually high, even when I got the fast track I ended up spending at least 80 dollars a month just on tolls. Now they want to increase it? Are you kidding?! It’s an insult as it is that when I have visitors to my house that they either have to spend money on the toll, or make the painful drive to the 805. If the company kept to their original budget we would never have had this problem. Don’t they also realize that lowering the toll would increase the amount of people on the road and balance out or even make them more money?
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