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January 28, 2009 at 11:30 AM #338208January 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM #337677patientlywaitingParticipant
esmith, the land in So. Cal. sucks. It’s all rocks and sand.
You have to irrigate and fertilize which is very costly and labor intensive. We’re not talking Imperial valley type agriculture here. For survival, you need to have everything on your land. You need fruit trees that will produce year in and year out. You need grass for grazing. You need worms and junk for the chickens to eat. You need ponds for fish and ducks. You need humidity and mulch to fertilize the land.
My cousin’s apple trees in Ohio produce a healthy output every year.
As a child, I spent a lot of time in my grand mother’s garden. I could easily live off the land like Little House on The Prairie. And I’m not afraid to kill a chicken for dinner, if I need to.
In CA, the Sacramento River area might be a good place to buy land.
I like Florida because it’s nice and warm and if you live inland, you don’t need to worry about tornadoes. You can live by a lake and stock some ponds with fish and you can easily subsist there.
January 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM #338007patientlywaitingParticipantesmith, the land in So. Cal. sucks. It’s all rocks and sand.
You have to irrigate and fertilize which is very costly and labor intensive. We’re not talking Imperial valley type agriculture here. For survival, you need to have everything on your land. You need fruit trees that will produce year in and year out. You need grass for grazing. You need worms and junk for the chickens to eat. You need ponds for fish and ducks. You need humidity and mulch to fertilize the land.
My cousin’s apple trees in Ohio produce a healthy output every year.
As a child, I spent a lot of time in my grand mother’s garden. I could easily live off the land like Little House on The Prairie. And I’m not afraid to kill a chicken for dinner, if I need to.
In CA, the Sacramento River area might be a good place to buy land.
I like Florida because it’s nice and warm and if you live inland, you don’t need to worry about tornadoes. You can live by a lake and stock some ponds with fish and you can easily subsist there.
January 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM #338099patientlywaitingParticipantesmith, the land in So. Cal. sucks. It’s all rocks and sand.
You have to irrigate and fertilize which is very costly and labor intensive. We’re not talking Imperial valley type agriculture here. For survival, you need to have everything on your land. You need fruit trees that will produce year in and year out. You need grass for grazing. You need worms and junk for the chickens to eat. You need ponds for fish and ducks. You need humidity and mulch to fertilize the land.
My cousin’s apple trees in Ohio produce a healthy output every year.
As a child, I spent a lot of time in my grand mother’s garden. I could easily live off the land like Little House on The Prairie. And I’m not afraid to kill a chicken for dinner, if I need to.
In CA, the Sacramento River area might be a good place to buy land.
I like Florida because it’s nice and warm and if you live inland, you don’t need to worry about tornadoes. You can live by a lake and stock some ponds with fish and you can easily subsist there.
January 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM #338125patientlywaitingParticipantesmith, the land in So. Cal. sucks. It’s all rocks and sand.
You have to irrigate and fertilize which is very costly and labor intensive. We’re not talking Imperial valley type agriculture here. For survival, you need to have everything on your land. You need fruit trees that will produce year in and year out. You need grass for grazing. You need worms and junk for the chickens to eat. You need ponds for fish and ducks. You need humidity and mulch to fertilize the land.
My cousin’s apple trees in Ohio produce a healthy output every year.
As a child, I spent a lot of time in my grand mother’s garden. I could easily live off the land like Little House on The Prairie. And I’m not afraid to kill a chicken for dinner, if I need to.
In CA, the Sacramento River area might be a good place to buy land.
I like Florida because it’s nice and warm and if you live inland, you don’t need to worry about tornadoes. You can live by a lake and stock some ponds with fish and you can easily subsist there.
January 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM #338218patientlywaitingParticipantesmith, the land in So. Cal. sucks. It’s all rocks and sand.
You have to irrigate and fertilize which is very costly and labor intensive. We’re not talking Imperial valley type agriculture here. For survival, you need to have everything on your land. You need fruit trees that will produce year in and year out. You need grass for grazing. You need worms and junk for the chickens to eat. You need ponds for fish and ducks. You need humidity and mulch to fertilize the land.
My cousin’s apple trees in Ohio produce a healthy output every year.
As a child, I spent a lot of time in my grand mother’s garden. I could easily live off the land like Little House on The Prairie. And I’m not afraid to kill a chicken for dinner, if I need to.
In CA, the Sacramento River area might be a good place to buy land.
I like Florida because it’s nice and warm and if you live inland, you don’t need to worry about tornadoes. You can live by a lake and stock some ponds with fish and you can easily subsist there.
January 28, 2009 at 1:40 PM #337712DoofratParticipantAztec / Mayan It won’t really matter after January or maybe December 2012 now will it?
January 28, 2009 at 1:40 PM #338042DoofratParticipantAztec / Mayan It won’t really matter after January or maybe December 2012 now will it?
January 28, 2009 at 1:40 PM #338134DoofratParticipantAztec / Mayan It won’t really matter after January or maybe December 2012 now will it?
January 28, 2009 at 1:40 PM #338160DoofratParticipantAztec / Mayan It won’t really matter after January or maybe December 2012 now will it?
January 28, 2009 at 1:40 PM #338253DoofratParticipantAztec / Mayan It won’t really matter after January or maybe December 2012 now will it?
January 28, 2009 at 1:53 PM #337717NotCrankyParticipantI live in a valley in the foothills of San Diego. With appropriate time to establish a productive cycle, the land which is 20 acres, would work just fine until my well went dry. To mitigate that threat and adjust for the scarcity of quality topsoil, I would strategize away from field crops. However, my neighbor has grown oats on seasonal rainfall before. Without outside feed sources, live stock would pretty much have to be goats and chickens,but that is enough.
Fires are a threat but only because we are not allowed to clear the brush enough to mitigate the possibiity completely. I feel the house and family are safe, but a fire could destroy crops.
January 28, 2009 at 1:53 PM #338047NotCrankyParticipantI live in a valley in the foothills of San Diego. With appropriate time to establish a productive cycle, the land which is 20 acres, would work just fine until my well went dry. To mitigate that threat and adjust for the scarcity of quality topsoil, I would strategize away from field crops. However, my neighbor has grown oats on seasonal rainfall before. Without outside feed sources, live stock would pretty much have to be goats and chickens,but that is enough.
Fires are a threat but only because we are not allowed to clear the brush enough to mitigate the possibiity completely. I feel the house and family are safe, but a fire could destroy crops.
January 28, 2009 at 1:53 PM #338139NotCrankyParticipantI live in a valley in the foothills of San Diego. With appropriate time to establish a productive cycle, the land which is 20 acres, would work just fine until my well went dry. To mitigate that threat and adjust for the scarcity of quality topsoil, I would strategize away from field crops. However, my neighbor has grown oats on seasonal rainfall before. Without outside feed sources, live stock would pretty much have to be goats and chickens,but that is enough.
Fires are a threat but only because we are not allowed to clear the brush enough to mitigate the possibiity completely. I feel the house and family are safe, but a fire could destroy crops.
January 28, 2009 at 1:53 PM #338165NotCrankyParticipantI live in a valley in the foothills of San Diego. With appropriate time to establish a productive cycle, the land which is 20 acres, would work just fine until my well went dry. To mitigate that threat and adjust for the scarcity of quality topsoil, I would strategize away from field crops. However, my neighbor has grown oats on seasonal rainfall before. Without outside feed sources, live stock would pretty much have to be goats and chickens,but that is enough.
Fires are a threat but only because we are not allowed to clear the brush enough to mitigate the possibiity completely. I feel the house and family are safe, but a fire could destroy crops.
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