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July 17, 2010 at 8:29 AM #580368July 17, 2010 at 8:47 AM #579346bearishgurlParticipant
[quote=jpinpb]Can you drive a Japanese car w/pea soup oil or no water? Then add water later and have it run for years? If so, then I’ll be impressed.[/quote]
I HAVE driven a Toyota a lo-o-o-o-ong time w/o changing the oil. But they run so much better on the road with frequent oil changes using synthetic oil.
I’ve also driven a few miles with water pump failure and steaming under the hood. But once I got it parked and got the hose on it to cool it off and filled it up with water enough to get it to a repair shop, it was okay. No engine damage.
[quote=jpinpb]. . . And what’s this only thing going for American cars was patriotic bs hype.?
Ahem… with the way our economy is, now would be a good time to be patriotic and buy American, or at least not Chinese.
If every there’s a call to be patriotic — no offense to anyone pro-war — but we heard about the war being patriotic. I say buying American is much more patriotic.[/quote]
jpinpb, this subject is grayer than it looks at first blush. For instance, Toyota has MANY factories in the US, employing US unionized workers. Their biggest plant (that makes light trucks) is based in Kentucky. Granted, their parts come from Japan but the jobs are HERE.
July 17, 2010 at 8:47 AM #579439bearishgurlParticipant[quote=jpinpb]Can you drive a Japanese car w/pea soup oil or no water? Then add water later and have it run for years? If so, then I’ll be impressed.[/quote]
I HAVE driven a Toyota a lo-o-o-o-ong time w/o changing the oil. But they run so much better on the road with frequent oil changes using synthetic oil.
I’ve also driven a few miles with water pump failure and steaming under the hood. But once I got it parked and got the hose on it to cool it off and filled it up with water enough to get it to a repair shop, it was okay. No engine damage.
[quote=jpinpb]. . . And what’s this only thing going for American cars was patriotic bs hype.?
Ahem… with the way our economy is, now would be a good time to be patriotic and buy American, or at least not Chinese.
If every there’s a call to be patriotic — no offense to anyone pro-war — but we heard about the war being patriotic. I say buying American is much more patriotic.[/quote]
jpinpb, this subject is grayer than it looks at first blush. For instance, Toyota has MANY factories in the US, employing US unionized workers. Their biggest plant (that makes light trucks) is based in Kentucky. Granted, their parts come from Japan but the jobs are HERE.
July 17, 2010 at 8:47 AM #579970bearishgurlParticipant[quote=jpinpb]Can you drive a Japanese car w/pea soup oil or no water? Then add water later and have it run for years? If so, then I’ll be impressed.[/quote]
I HAVE driven a Toyota a lo-o-o-o-ong time w/o changing the oil. But they run so much better on the road with frequent oil changes using synthetic oil.
I’ve also driven a few miles with water pump failure and steaming under the hood. But once I got it parked and got the hose on it to cool it off and filled it up with water enough to get it to a repair shop, it was okay. No engine damage.
[quote=jpinpb]. . . And what’s this only thing going for American cars was patriotic bs hype.?
Ahem… with the way our economy is, now would be a good time to be patriotic and buy American, or at least not Chinese.
If every there’s a call to be patriotic — no offense to anyone pro-war — but we heard about the war being patriotic. I say buying American is much more patriotic.[/quote]
jpinpb, this subject is grayer than it looks at first blush. For instance, Toyota has MANY factories in the US, employing US unionized workers. Their biggest plant (that makes light trucks) is based in Kentucky. Granted, their parts come from Japan but the jobs are HERE.
July 17, 2010 at 8:47 AM #580078bearishgurlParticipant[quote=jpinpb]Can you drive a Japanese car w/pea soup oil or no water? Then add water later and have it run for years? If so, then I’ll be impressed.[/quote]
I HAVE driven a Toyota a lo-o-o-o-ong time w/o changing the oil. But they run so much better on the road with frequent oil changes using synthetic oil.
I’ve also driven a few miles with water pump failure and steaming under the hood. But once I got it parked and got the hose on it to cool it off and filled it up with water enough to get it to a repair shop, it was okay. No engine damage.
[quote=jpinpb]. . . And what’s this only thing going for American cars was patriotic bs hype.?
Ahem… with the way our economy is, now would be a good time to be patriotic and buy American, or at least not Chinese.
If every there’s a call to be patriotic — no offense to anyone pro-war — but we heard about the war being patriotic. I say buying American is much more patriotic.[/quote]
jpinpb, this subject is grayer than it looks at first blush. For instance, Toyota has MANY factories in the US, employing US unionized workers. Their biggest plant (that makes light trucks) is based in Kentucky. Granted, their parts come from Japan but the jobs are HERE.
July 17, 2010 at 8:47 AM #580381bearishgurlParticipant[quote=jpinpb]Can you drive a Japanese car w/pea soup oil or no water? Then add water later and have it run for years? If so, then I’ll be impressed.[/quote]
I HAVE driven a Toyota a lo-o-o-o-ong time w/o changing the oil. But they run so much better on the road with frequent oil changes using synthetic oil.
I’ve also driven a few miles with water pump failure and steaming under the hood. But once I got it parked and got the hose on it to cool it off and filled it up with water enough to get it to a repair shop, it was okay. No engine damage.
[quote=jpinpb]. . . And what’s this only thing going for American cars was patriotic bs hype.?
Ahem… with the way our economy is, now would be a good time to be patriotic and buy American, or at least not Chinese.
If every there’s a call to be patriotic — no offense to anyone pro-war — but we heard about the war being patriotic. I say buying American is much more patriotic.[/quote]
jpinpb, this subject is grayer than it looks at first blush. For instance, Toyota has MANY factories in the US, employing US unionized workers. Their biggest plant (that makes light trucks) is based in Kentucky. Granted, their parts come from Japan but the jobs are HERE.
July 17, 2010 at 8:54 AM #579349bearishgurlParticipant[quote=jpinpb]OK. I have to address the notion of lower quality. Back when I was in high school, I had a Camaro and I ran that car into the ground w/out care. It was built tough. Wish I still had that 350SS now. Worth some bucks.[/quote]
LOL, jpinpb, my best friend in HS had beautiful blue Malibu SuperSport 350 Cleveland with a 4-barrel Holley carbuereter that fit 7 teenagers comfortably and ran like a tank! We had SO MUCH FUN IN THAT CAR 🙂
July 17, 2010 at 8:54 AM #579443bearishgurlParticipant[quote=jpinpb]OK. I have to address the notion of lower quality. Back when I was in high school, I had a Camaro and I ran that car into the ground w/out care. It was built tough. Wish I still had that 350SS now. Worth some bucks.[/quote]
LOL, jpinpb, my best friend in HS had beautiful blue Malibu SuperSport 350 Cleveland with a 4-barrel Holley carbuereter that fit 7 teenagers comfortably and ran like a tank! We had SO MUCH FUN IN THAT CAR 🙂
July 17, 2010 at 8:54 AM #579974bearishgurlParticipant[quote=jpinpb]OK. I have to address the notion of lower quality. Back when I was in high school, I had a Camaro and I ran that car into the ground w/out care. It was built tough. Wish I still had that 350SS now. Worth some bucks.[/quote]
LOL, jpinpb, my best friend in HS had beautiful blue Malibu SuperSport 350 Cleveland with a 4-barrel Holley carbuereter that fit 7 teenagers comfortably and ran like a tank! We had SO MUCH FUN IN THAT CAR 🙂
July 17, 2010 at 8:54 AM #580081bearishgurlParticipant[quote=jpinpb]OK. I have to address the notion of lower quality. Back when I was in high school, I had a Camaro and I ran that car into the ground w/out care. It was built tough. Wish I still had that 350SS now. Worth some bucks.[/quote]
LOL, jpinpb, my best friend in HS had beautiful blue Malibu SuperSport 350 Cleveland with a 4-barrel Holley carbuereter that fit 7 teenagers comfortably and ran like a tank! We had SO MUCH FUN IN THAT CAR 🙂
July 17, 2010 at 8:54 AM #580386bearishgurlParticipant[quote=jpinpb]OK. I have to address the notion of lower quality. Back when I was in high school, I had a Camaro and I ran that car into the ground w/out care. It was built tough. Wish I still had that 350SS now. Worth some bucks.[/quote]
LOL, jpinpb, my best friend in HS had beautiful blue Malibu SuperSport 350 Cleveland with a 4-barrel Holley carbuereter that fit 7 teenagers comfortably and ran like a tank! We had SO MUCH FUN IN THAT CAR 🙂
July 17, 2010 at 8:57 AM #579354KIBUParticipantIn China, Farming Fish in Toxic Waters
By DAVID BARBOZAFUQING, China — Here in southern China, beneath the looming mountains of Fujian Province, lie dozens of enormous ponds filled with murky brown water and teeming with eels, shrimp and tilapia, much of it destined for markets in Japan and the West.
Fuqing is one of the centers of a booming industry that over two decades has transformed this country into the biggest producer and exporter of seafood in the world, and the fastest-growing supplier to the United States.
But that growth is threatened by the two most glaring environmental weaknesses in China: acute water shortages and water supplies contaminated by sewage, industrial waste and agricultural runoff that includes pesticides. The fish farms, in turn, are discharging wastewater that further pollutes the water supply.
“Our waters here are filthy,” said Ye Chao, an eel and shrimp farmer who has 20 giant ponds in western Fuqing. “There are simply too many aquaculture farms in this area. They’re all discharging water here, fouling up other farms.”
Farmers have coped with the toxic waters by mixing illegal veterinary drugs and pesticides into fish feed, which helps keep their stocks alive yet leaves poisonous and carcinogenic residues in seafood, posing health threats to consumers.
Environmental degradation, in other words, has become a food safety problem, and scientists say the long-term risks of consuming contaminated seafood could lead to higher rates of cancer and liver disease and other afflictions.
————————————-Oops, I ‘ve been eating these Chinese seafood. Definitely time to cut back.
Life is already short.
July 17, 2010 at 8:57 AM #579448KIBUParticipantIn China, Farming Fish in Toxic Waters
By DAVID BARBOZAFUQING, China — Here in southern China, beneath the looming mountains of Fujian Province, lie dozens of enormous ponds filled with murky brown water and teeming with eels, shrimp and tilapia, much of it destined for markets in Japan and the West.
Fuqing is one of the centers of a booming industry that over two decades has transformed this country into the biggest producer and exporter of seafood in the world, and the fastest-growing supplier to the United States.
But that growth is threatened by the two most glaring environmental weaknesses in China: acute water shortages and water supplies contaminated by sewage, industrial waste and agricultural runoff that includes pesticides. The fish farms, in turn, are discharging wastewater that further pollutes the water supply.
“Our waters here are filthy,” said Ye Chao, an eel and shrimp farmer who has 20 giant ponds in western Fuqing. “There are simply too many aquaculture farms in this area. They’re all discharging water here, fouling up other farms.”
Farmers have coped with the toxic waters by mixing illegal veterinary drugs and pesticides into fish feed, which helps keep their stocks alive yet leaves poisonous and carcinogenic residues in seafood, posing health threats to consumers.
Environmental degradation, in other words, has become a food safety problem, and scientists say the long-term risks of consuming contaminated seafood could lead to higher rates of cancer and liver disease and other afflictions.
————————————-Oops, I ‘ve been eating these Chinese seafood. Definitely time to cut back.
Life is already short.
July 17, 2010 at 8:57 AM #579979KIBUParticipantIn China, Farming Fish in Toxic Waters
By DAVID BARBOZAFUQING, China — Here in southern China, beneath the looming mountains of Fujian Province, lie dozens of enormous ponds filled with murky brown water and teeming with eels, shrimp and tilapia, much of it destined for markets in Japan and the West.
Fuqing is one of the centers of a booming industry that over two decades has transformed this country into the biggest producer and exporter of seafood in the world, and the fastest-growing supplier to the United States.
But that growth is threatened by the two most glaring environmental weaknesses in China: acute water shortages and water supplies contaminated by sewage, industrial waste and agricultural runoff that includes pesticides. The fish farms, in turn, are discharging wastewater that further pollutes the water supply.
“Our waters here are filthy,” said Ye Chao, an eel and shrimp farmer who has 20 giant ponds in western Fuqing. “There are simply too many aquaculture farms in this area. They’re all discharging water here, fouling up other farms.”
Farmers have coped with the toxic waters by mixing illegal veterinary drugs and pesticides into fish feed, which helps keep their stocks alive yet leaves poisonous and carcinogenic residues in seafood, posing health threats to consumers.
Environmental degradation, in other words, has become a food safety problem, and scientists say the long-term risks of consuming contaminated seafood could lead to higher rates of cancer and liver disease and other afflictions.
————————————-Oops, I ‘ve been eating these Chinese seafood. Definitely time to cut back.
Life is already short.
July 17, 2010 at 8:57 AM #580086KIBUParticipantIn China, Farming Fish in Toxic Waters
By DAVID BARBOZAFUQING, China — Here in southern China, beneath the looming mountains of Fujian Province, lie dozens of enormous ponds filled with murky brown water and teeming with eels, shrimp and tilapia, much of it destined for markets in Japan and the West.
Fuqing is one of the centers of a booming industry that over two decades has transformed this country into the biggest producer and exporter of seafood in the world, and the fastest-growing supplier to the United States.
But that growth is threatened by the two most glaring environmental weaknesses in China: acute water shortages and water supplies contaminated by sewage, industrial waste and agricultural runoff that includes pesticides. The fish farms, in turn, are discharging wastewater that further pollutes the water supply.
“Our waters here are filthy,” said Ye Chao, an eel and shrimp farmer who has 20 giant ponds in western Fuqing. “There are simply too many aquaculture farms in this area. They’re all discharging water here, fouling up other farms.”
Farmers have coped with the toxic waters by mixing illegal veterinary drugs and pesticides into fish feed, which helps keep their stocks alive yet leaves poisonous and carcinogenic residues in seafood, posing health threats to consumers.
Environmental degradation, in other words, has become a food safety problem, and scientists say the long-term risks of consuming contaminated seafood could lead to higher rates of cancer and liver disease and other afflictions.
————————————-Oops, I ‘ve been eating these Chinese seafood. Definitely time to cut back.
Life is already short.
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