BP gusher to spew 2 billion barrels?

[Zeitgeist]

Maybe Rich can hold the money.

I bet Partypup wins, but I am sure it will be some kind of surgical nuke (if there is such a thing). That should make the noise from the left equal to the nuke we used on Japan. These truly are troubling times. Using a nuke there should set off some more earthquakes….

[briansd1]

[quote=Veritas]”To the right and the center, the oil spill is a management issue, indicative of Obama’s lack of administrative experience. Community organizers and law professors don’t know how to handle oil spills. But to the left, it is an environmental issue pure and simple. Each barrel of oil that flows into the Gulf is a sin against nature and alienates those for whom environment is the key issue. And Obama can ill afford to lose them. So Obama is stuck, drowning in oil with no relief in sight.”

By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN[/quote]

Obama won’t lose the environmentalists. Who are they are going to turn to? Palin?

The truth is that, in America, we have made a conscious decision to let private companies manage our wealth. That’s not going to change.

Obama is smart not to bash big oil too much otherwise the debate will turn into whether we are turning into socialist Venezuela or France — too quick to nationalize businesses.

Everyday that passes that the oil gusher is not plugged is anger building against big businesses at the grassroots level. That anger will translate to policy changes, even from the right.

Remember, Nixon created the EPA because of the Santa Barbara oil spill of 1969.

[briansd1]

[quote=Veritas]”To the right and the center, the oil spill is a management issue, indicative of Obama’s lack of administrative experience. Community organizers and law professors don’t know how to handle oil spills. But to the left, it is an environmental issue pure and simple. Each barrel of oil that flows into the Gulf is a sin against nature and alienates those for whom environment is the key issue. And Obama can ill afford to lose them. So Obama is stuck, drowning in oil with no relief in sight.”

By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN[/quote]

Obama won’t lose the environmentalists. Who are they are going to turn to? Palin?

The truth is that, in America, we have made a conscious decision to let private companies manage our wealth. That’s not going to change.

Obama is smart not to bash big oil too much otherwise the debate will turn into whether we are turning into socialist Venezuela or France — too quick to nationalize businesses.

Everyday that passes that the oil gusher is not plugged is anger building against big businesses at the grassroots level. That anger will translate to policy changes, even from the right.

Remember, Nixon created the EPA because of the Santa Barbara oil spill of 1969.

[briansd1]

[quote=Veritas]”To the right and the center, the oil spill is a management issue, indicative of Obama’s lack of administrative experience. Community organizers and law professors don’t know how to handle oil spills. But to the left, it is an environmental issue pure and simple. Each barrel of oil that flows into the Gulf is a sin against nature and alienates those for whom environment is the key issue. And Obama can ill afford to lose them. So Obama is stuck, drowning in oil with no relief in sight.”

By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN[/quote]

Obama won’t lose the environmentalists. Who are they are going to turn to? Palin?

The truth is that, in America, we have made a conscious decision to let private companies manage our wealth. That’s not going to change.

Obama is smart not to bash big oil too much otherwise the debate will turn into whether we are turning into socialist Venezuela or France — too quick to nationalize businesses.

Everyday that passes that the oil gusher is not plugged is anger building against big businesses at the grassroots level. That anger will translate to policy changes, even from the right.

Remember, Nixon created the EPA because of the Santa Barbara oil spill of 1969.

[briansd1]

[quote=Veritas]”To the right and the center, the oil spill is a management issue, indicative of Obama’s lack of administrative experience. Community organizers and law professors don’t know how to handle oil spills. But to the left, it is an environmental issue pure and simple. Each barrel of oil that flows into the Gulf is a sin against nature and alienates those for whom environment is the key issue. And Obama can ill afford to lose them. So Obama is stuck, drowning in oil with no relief in sight.”

By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN[/quote]

Obama won’t lose the environmentalists. Who are they are going to turn to? Palin?

The truth is that, in America, we have made a conscious decision to let private companies manage our wealth. That’s not going to change.

Obama is smart not to bash big oil too much otherwise the debate will turn into whether we are turning into socialist Venezuela or France — too quick to nationalize businesses.

Everyday that passes that the oil gusher is not plugged is anger building against big businesses at the grassroots level. That anger will translate to policy changes, even from the right.

Remember, Nixon created the EPA because of the Santa Barbara oil spill of 1969.

[briansd1]

[quote=Veritas]”To the right and the center, the oil spill is a management issue, indicative of Obama’s lack of administrative experience. Community organizers and law professors don’t know how to handle oil spills. But to the left, it is an environmental issue pure and simple. Each barrel of oil that flows into the Gulf is a sin against nature and alienates those for whom environment is the key issue. And Obama can ill afford to lose them. So Obama is stuck, drowning in oil with no relief in sight.”

By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN[/quote]

Obama won’t lose the environmentalists. Who are they are going to turn to? Palin?

The truth is that, in America, we have made a conscious decision to let private companies manage our wealth. That’s not going to change.

Obama is smart not to bash big oil too much otherwise the debate will turn into whether we are turning into socialist Venezuela or France — too quick to nationalize businesses.

Everyday that passes that the oil gusher is not plugged is anger building against big businesses at the grassroots level. That anger will translate to policy changes, even from the right.

Remember, Nixon created the EPA because of the Santa Barbara oil spill of 1969.

[partypup]

[quote=Zeitgeist]Maybe Rich can hold the money.

I bet Partypup wins, but I am sure it will be some kind of surgical nuke (if there is such a thing). That should make the noise from the left equal to the nuke we used on Japan. These truly are troubling times. Using a nuke there should set off some more earthquakes….[/quote]

Precisely, Zeit. New Madrid comes to mind…

[partypup]

[quote=Zeitgeist]Maybe Rich can hold the money.

I bet Partypup wins, but I am sure it will be some kind of surgical nuke (if there is such a thing). That should make the noise from the left equal to the nuke we used on Japan. These truly are troubling times. Using a nuke there should set off some more earthquakes….[/quote]

Precisely, Zeit. New Madrid comes to mind…

[partypup]

[quote=Zeitgeist]Maybe Rich can hold the money.

I bet Partypup wins, but I am sure it will be some kind of surgical nuke (if there is such a thing). That should make the noise from the left equal to the nuke we used on Japan. These truly are troubling times. Using a nuke there should set off some more earthquakes….[/quote]

Precisely, Zeit. New Madrid comes to mind…

[partypup]

[quote=Zeitgeist]Maybe Rich can hold the money.

I bet Partypup wins, but I am sure it will be some kind of surgical nuke (if there is such a thing). That should make the noise from the left equal to the nuke we used on Japan. These truly are troubling times. Using a nuke there should set off some more earthquakes….[/quote]

Precisely, Zeit. New Madrid comes to mind…

[partypup]

[quote=Zeitgeist]Maybe Rich can hold the money.

I bet Partypup wins, but I am sure it will be some kind of surgical nuke (if there is such a thing). That should make the noise from the left equal to the nuke we used on Japan. These truly are troubling times. Using a nuke there should set off some more earthquakes….[/quote]

Precisely, Zeit. New Madrid comes to mind…

[partypup]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Veritas]

Obama is smart not to bash big oil too much otherwise the debate will turn into whether we are turning into socialist Venezuela or France — too quick to nationalize businesses. [/quote]

Seriously, aren’t we all past the point of even thinking that Obama is *smart* about anything?

“Most troubling of all, the government has allowed BP to continue deep-sea production at its Atlantis rig – one of the world’s largest oil platforms. Capable of drawing 200,000 barrels a day from the seafloor, Atlantis is located only 150 miles off the coast of Louisiana, in waters nearly 2,000 feet deeper than BP drilled at Deepwater Horizon. According to congressional documents, the platform lacks required engineering certification for as much as 90 percent of its subsea components – a flaw that internal BP documents reveal could lead to “catastrophic” errors. In a May 19th letter to Salazar, 26 congressmen called for the rig to be shut down immediately. “We are very concerned,” they wrote, “that the tragedy at Deepwater Horizon could foreshadow an accident at BP Atlantis.”

The administration’s response to the looming threat? According to an e-mail to a congressional aide from a staff member at MMS, the agency has had “zero contact” with Atlantis about its safety risks since the Deepwater rig went down.

…

And instead of putting the brakes on new offshore drilling, Salazar immediately throttled it up to record levels. Even though he had scrapped the Bush plan, Salazar put 53 million offshore acres up for lease in the Gulf in his first year alone – an all-time high. The aggressive leasing came as no surprise, given Salazar’s track record. “This guy has a long, long history of promoting offshore oil drilling – that’s his thing,” says Kierán Suckling, executive director of the Center for Biological Diversity. “He’s got a highly specific soft spot for offshore oil drilling.” As a senator, Salazar not only steered passage of the Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act, which opened 8 million acres in the Gulf to drilling, he even criticized President Bush for not forcing oil companies to develop existing leases faster.

…

Nowhere was the absurdity of the policy more evident than in the application that BP submitted for its Deepwater Horizon well only two months after Obama took office. BP claims that a spill is “unlikely” and states that it anticipates “no adverse impacts” to endangered wildlife or fisheries. Should a spill occur, it says, “no significant adverse impacts are expected” for the region’s beaches, wetlands and coastal nesting birds.The company, noting that such elements are “not required” as part of the application, contains no scenario for a potential blowout, and no site-specific plan to respond to a spill. Instead, it cites an Oil Spill Response Plan that it had prepared for the entire Gulf region. Among the sensitive species BP anticipates protecting in the semitropical Gulf? “Walruses” and other cold-water mammals, including sea otters and sea lions. The mistake appears to be the result of a sloppy cut-and-paste job from BP’s drilling plans for the Arctic.Even worse: Among the “primary equipment providers” for “rapid deployment of spill response resources,” BP inexplicably provides the Web address of a Japanese home-shopping network. Such glaring errors expose the 582-page response “plan” as nothing more than a paperwork exercise. “It was clear that nobody read it,” says Ruch, who represents government scientists.

…

Scientists were stunned that NOAA, an agency widely respected for its scientific integrity, appeared to have been co-opted by the White House spin machine. “NOAA has actively pushed back on every fact that has ever come out,” says one ocean scientist who works with the agency. “They’re denying until the facts are so overwhelming, they finally come out and issue an admittance.” Others are furious at the agency for criticizing the work of scientists studying the oil plumes rather than leading them. “Why they didn’t have vessels there right then and start to gather the scientific data on oil and what the impacts are to different organisms is inexcusable,” says a former government marine biologist. “They should have been right on top of that.” Only six weeks into the disaster did the agency finally deploy its own research vessel to investigate the plumes.

This man is either a complete Tool, an idiot, or some combination of both.

All of which I predicted a year before this clown took office. Got Buyer’s Remorse? I’m sure Mother Earth wishes that she’d had an opportunity to vote.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965

[partypup]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Veritas]

Obama is smart not to bash big oil too much otherwise the debate will turn into whether we are turning into socialist Venezuela or France — too quick to nationalize businesses. [/quote]

Seriously, aren’t we all past the point of even thinking that Obama is *smart* about anything?

“Most troubling of all, the government has allowed BP to continue deep-sea production at its Atlantis rig – one of the world’s largest oil platforms. Capable of drawing 200,000 barrels a day from the seafloor, Atlantis is located only 150 miles off the coast of Louisiana, in waters nearly 2,000 feet deeper than BP drilled at Deepwater Horizon. According to congressional documents, the platform lacks required engineering certification for as much as 90 percent of its subsea components – a flaw that internal BP documents reveal could lead to “catastrophic” errors. In a May 19th letter to Salazar, 26 congressmen called for the rig to be shut down immediately. “We are very concerned,” they wrote, “that the tragedy at Deepwater Horizon could foreshadow an accident at BP Atlantis.”

The administration’s response to the looming threat? According to an e-mail to a congressional aide from a staff member at MMS, the agency has had “zero contact” with Atlantis about its safety risks since the Deepwater rig went down.

…

And instead of putting the brakes on new offshore drilling, Salazar immediately throttled it up to record levels. Even though he had scrapped the Bush plan, Salazar put 53 million offshore acres up for lease in the Gulf in his first year alone – an all-time high. The aggressive leasing came as no surprise, given Salazar’s track record. “This guy has a long, long history of promoting offshore oil drilling – that’s his thing,” says Kierán Suckling, executive director of the Center for Biological Diversity. “He’s got a highly specific soft spot for offshore oil drilling.” As a senator, Salazar not only steered passage of the Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act, which opened 8 million acres in the Gulf to drilling, he even criticized President Bush for not forcing oil companies to develop existing leases faster.

…

Nowhere was the absurdity of the policy more evident than in the application that BP submitted for its Deepwater Horizon well only two months after Obama took office. BP claims that a spill is “unlikely” and states that it anticipates “no adverse impacts” to endangered wildlife or fisheries. Should a spill occur, it says, “no significant adverse impacts are expected” for the region’s beaches, wetlands and coastal nesting birds.The company, noting that such elements are “not required” as part of the application, contains no scenario for a potential blowout, and no site-specific plan to respond to a spill. Instead, it cites an Oil Spill Response Plan that it had prepared for the entire Gulf region. Among the sensitive species BP anticipates protecting in the semitropical Gulf? “Walruses” and other cold-water mammals, including sea otters and sea lions. The mistake appears to be the result of a sloppy cut-and-paste job from BP’s drilling plans for the Arctic.Even worse: Among the “primary equipment providers” for “rapid deployment of spill response resources,” BP inexplicably provides the Web address of a Japanese home-shopping network. Such glaring errors expose the 582-page response “plan” as nothing more than a paperwork exercise. “It was clear that nobody read it,” says Ruch, who represents government scientists.

…

Scientists were stunned that NOAA, an agency widely respected for its scientific integrity, appeared to have been co-opted by the White House spin machine. “NOAA has actively pushed back on every fact that has ever come out,” says one ocean scientist who works with the agency. “They’re denying until the facts are so overwhelming, they finally come out and issue an admittance.” Others are furious at the agency for criticizing the work of scientists studying the oil plumes rather than leading them. “Why they didn’t have vessels there right then and start to gather the scientific data on oil and what the impacts are to different organisms is inexcusable,” says a former government marine biologist. “They should have been right on top of that.” Only six weeks into the disaster did the agency finally deploy its own research vessel to investigate the plumes.

This man is either a complete Tool, an idiot, or some combination of both.

All of which I predicted a year before this clown took office. Got Buyer’s Remorse? I’m sure Mother Earth wishes that she’d had an opportunity to vote.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965

[partypup]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Veritas]

Obama is smart not to bash big oil too much otherwise the debate will turn into whether we are turning into socialist Venezuela or France — too quick to nationalize businesses. [/quote]

Seriously, aren’t we all past the point of even thinking that Obama is *smart* about anything?

“Most troubling of all, the government has allowed BP to continue deep-sea production at its Atlantis rig – one of the world’s largest oil platforms. Capable of drawing 200,000 barrels a day from the seafloor, Atlantis is located only 150 miles off the coast of Louisiana, in waters nearly 2,000 feet deeper than BP drilled at Deepwater Horizon. According to congressional documents, the platform lacks required engineering certification for as much as 90 percent of its subsea components – a flaw that internal BP documents reveal could lead to “catastrophic” errors. In a May 19th letter to Salazar, 26 congressmen called for the rig to be shut down immediately. “We are very concerned,” they wrote, “that the tragedy at Deepwater Horizon could foreshadow an accident at BP Atlantis.”

The administration’s response to the looming threat? According to an e-mail to a congressional aide from a staff member at MMS, the agency has had “zero contact” with Atlantis about its safety risks since the Deepwater rig went down.

…

And instead of putting the brakes on new offshore drilling, Salazar immediately throttled it up to record levels. Even though he had scrapped the Bush plan, Salazar put 53 million offshore acres up for lease in the Gulf in his first year alone – an all-time high. The aggressive leasing came as no surprise, given Salazar’s track record. “This guy has a long, long history of promoting offshore oil drilling – that’s his thing,” says Kierán Suckling, executive director of the Center for Biological Diversity. “He’s got a highly specific soft spot for offshore oil drilling.” As a senator, Salazar not only steered passage of the Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act, which opened 8 million acres in the Gulf to drilling, he even criticized President Bush for not forcing oil companies to develop existing leases faster.

…

Nowhere was the absurdity of the policy more evident than in the application that BP submitted for its Deepwater Horizon well only two months after Obama took office. BP claims that a spill is “unlikely” and states that it anticipates “no adverse impacts” to endangered wildlife or fisheries. Should a spill occur, it says, “no significant adverse impacts are expected” for the region’s beaches, wetlands and coastal nesting birds.The company, noting that such elements are “not required” as part of the application, contains no scenario for a potential blowout, and no site-specific plan to respond to a spill. Instead, it cites an Oil Spill Response Plan that it had prepared for the entire Gulf region. Among the sensitive species BP anticipates protecting in the semitropical Gulf? “Walruses” and other cold-water mammals, including sea otters and sea lions. The mistake appears to be the result of a sloppy cut-and-paste job from BP’s drilling plans for the Arctic.Even worse: Among the “primary equipment providers” for “rapid deployment of spill response resources,” BP inexplicably provides the Web address of a Japanese home-shopping network. Such glaring errors expose the 582-page response “plan” as nothing more than a paperwork exercise. “It was clear that nobody read it,” says Ruch, who represents government scientists.

…

Scientists were stunned that NOAA, an agency widely respected for its scientific integrity, appeared to have been co-opted by the White House spin machine. “NOAA has actively pushed back on every fact that has ever come out,” says one ocean scientist who works with the agency. “They’re denying until the facts are so overwhelming, they finally come out and issue an admittance.” Others are furious at the agency for criticizing the work of scientists studying the oil plumes rather than leading them. “Why they didn’t have vessels there right then and start to gather the scientific data on oil and what the impacts are to different organisms is inexcusable,” says a former government marine biologist. “They should have been right on top of that.” Only six weeks into the disaster did the agency finally deploy its own research vessel to investigate the plumes.

This man is either a complete Tool, an idiot, or some combination of both.

All of which I predicted a year before this clown took office. Got Buyer’s Remorse? I’m sure Mother Earth wishes that she’d had an opportunity to vote.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965

[partypup]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Veritas]

Obama is smart not to bash big oil too much otherwise the debate will turn into whether we are turning into socialist Venezuela or France — too quick to nationalize businesses. [/quote]

Seriously, aren’t we all past the point of even thinking that Obama is *smart* about anything?

“Most troubling of all, the government has allowed BP to continue deep-sea production at its Atlantis rig – one of the world’s largest oil platforms. Capable of drawing 200,000 barrels a day from the seafloor, Atlantis is located only 150 miles off the coast of Louisiana, in waters nearly 2,000 feet deeper than BP drilled at Deepwater Horizon. According to congressional documents, the platform lacks required engineering certification for as much as 90 percent of its subsea components – a flaw that internal BP documents reveal could lead to “catastrophic” errors. In a May 19th letter to Salazar, 26 congressmen called for the rig to be shut down immediately. “We are very concerned,” they wrote, “that the tragedy at Deepwater Horizon could foreshadow an accident at BP Atlantis.”

The administration’s response to the looming threat? According to an e-mail to a congressional aide from a staff member at MMS, the agency has had “zero contact” with Atlantis about its safety risks since the Deepwater rig went down.

…

And instead of putting the brakes on new offshore drilling, Salazar immediately throttled it up to record levels. Even though he had scrapped the Bush plan, Salazar put 53 million offshore acres up for lease in the Gulf in his first year alone – an all-time high. The aggressive leasing came as no surprise, given Salazar’s track record. “This guy has a long, long history of promoting offshore oil drilling – that’s his thing,” says Kierán Suckling, executive director of the Center for Biological Diversity. “He’s got a highly specific soft spot for offshore oil drilling.” As a senator, Salazar not only steered passage of the Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act, which opened 8 million acres in the Gulf to drilling, he even criticized President Bush for not forcing oil companies to develop existing leases faster.

…

Nowhere was the absurdity of the policy more evident than in the application that BP submitted for its Deepwater Horizon well only two months after Obama took office. BP claims that a spill is “unlikely” and states that it anticipates “no adverse impacts” to endangered wildlife or fisheries. Should a spill occur, it says, “no significant adverse impacts are expected” for the region’s beaches, wetlands and coastal nesting birds.The company, noting that such elements are “not required” as part of the application, contains no scenario for a potential blowout, and no site-specific plan to respond to a spill. Instead, it cites an Oil Spill Response Plan that it had prepared for the entire Gulf region. Among the sensitive species BP anticipates protecting in the semitropical Gulf? “Walruses” and other cold-water mammals, including sea otters and sea lions. The mistake appears to be the result of a sloppy cut-and-paste job from BP’s drilling plans for the Arctic.Even worse: Among the “primary equipment providers” for “rapid deployment of spill response resources,” BP inexplicably provides the Web address of a Japanese home-shopping network. Such glaring errors expose the 582-page response “plan” as nothing more than a paperwork exercise. “It was clear that nobody read it,” says Ruch, who represents government scientists.

…

Scientists were stunned that NOAA, an agency widely respected for its scientific integrity, appeared to have been co-opted by the White House spin machine. “NOAA has actively pushed back on every fact that has ever come out,” says one ocean scientist who works with the agency. “They’re denying until the facts are so overwhelming, they finally come out and issue an admittance.” Others are furious at the agency for criticizing the work of scientists studying the oil plumes rather than leading them. “Why they didn’t have vessels there right then and start to gather the scientific data on oil and what the impacts are to different organisms is inexcusable,” says a former government marine biologist. “They should have been right on top of that.” Only six weeks into the disaster did the agency finally deploy its own research vessel to investigate the plumes.

This man is either a complete Tool, an idiot, or some combination of both.

All of which I predicted a year before this clown took office. Got Buyer’s Remorse? I’m sure Mother Earth wishes that she’d had an opportunity to vote.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965

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