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September 28, 2010 at 8:49 AM #610065September 28, 2010 at 11:07 AM #610189UCGalParticipant
[quote=Ren]Do you mind if I ask how much you paid to build it, not including the slope work?
We’re going to stuff the MIL into the guest house (I kid, she’s mostly nice and sane compared to many MILs). I’ve come to the conclusion that a separate building with its own kitchen and living area is far more desirable than just a downstairs bedroom/bath for that purpose. I don’t want to cramp the kids’ style with an elderly person being a fixture in the living room during all of their teen years, and she needs a place where she can have peace and quiet without feeling like a prisoner. My wife and I both want our house to be the place where all the kids come to hang out, so we know what they’re up to.
Another good thing about a separate apartment is that once the MIL moves on, a nicely upgraded 700-800sf guest house in Carlsbad would easily pull in $1,400/month in today’s dollars.
Another reason for needing a big, level lot is the over-the-top lagoon-style saltwater pool. I have big plans for that pool – a beach entry, natural rock surrounding it, a shallow cave behind a waterfall, a swim up bar. It will be ridiculously expensive, but I hope to do some of the work myself.[/quote]
What we paid is not typical… we had contractor problems. We also were bidding it out in 2007 when contractors were less hungry than now.
You should be able to do something for $200/sf from what I’m seeing with friends additions. So for 700sf, you’re looking at $140k. Russell can probably give you a better estimate, I believe he’s a contractor and has been building some apartments etc at his compound. π
Grading definitely added a lot of $ for us – we had to have civil engineering involved for drainage, structural engineering for the retaining walls… if you have a level building site you won’t have these costs.
Your planned pool sounds fantastic – be sure to host a Piggs party when you finally build it. π
September 28, 2010 at 11:07 AM #610739UCGalParticipant[quote=Ren]Do you mind if I ask how much you paid to build it, not including the slope work?
We’re going to stuff the MIL into the guest house (I kid, she’s mostly nice and sane compared to many MILs). I’ve come to the conclusion that a separate building with its own kitchen and living area is far more desirable than just a downstairs bedroom/bath for that purpose. I don’t want to cramp the kids’ style with an elderly person being a fixture in the living room during all of their teen years, and she needs a place where she can have peace and quiet without feeling like a prisoner. My wife and I both want our house to be the place where all the kids come to hang out, so we know what they’re up to.
Another good thing about a separate apartment is that once the MIL moves on, a nicely upgraded 700-800sf guest house in Carlsbad would easily pull in $1,400/month in today’s dollars.
Another reason for needing a big, level lot is the over-the-top lagoon-style saltwater pool. I have big plans for that pool – a beach entry, natural rock surrounding it, a shallow cave behind a waterfall, a swim up bar. It will be ridiculously expensive, but I hope to do some of the work myself.[/quote]
What we paid is not typical… we had contractor problems. We also were bidding it out in 2007 when contractors were less hungry than now.
You should be able to do something for $200/sf from what I’m seeing with friends additions. So for 700sf, you’re looking at $140k. Russell can probably give you a better estimate, I believe he’s a contractor and has been building some apartments etc at his compound. π
Grading definitely added a lot of $ for us – we had to have civil engineering involved for drainage, structural engineering for the retaining walls… if you have a level building site you won’t have these costs.
Your planned pool sounds fantastic – be sure to host a Piggs party when you finally build it. π
September 28, 2010 at 11:07 AM #610104UCGalParticipant[quote=Ren]Do you mind if I ask how much you paid to build it, not including the slope work?
We’re going to stuff the MIL into the guest house (I kid, she’s mostly nice and sane compared to many MILs). I’ve come to the conclusion that a separate building with its own kitchen and living area is far more desirable than just a downstairs bedroom/bath for that purpose. I don’t want to cramp the kids’ style with an elderly person being a fixture in the living room during all of their teen years, and she needs a place where she can have peace and quiet without feeling like a prisoner. My wife and I both want our house to be the place where all the kids come to hang out, so we know what they’re up to.
Another good thing about a separate apartment is that once the MIL moves on, a nicely upgraded 700-800sf guest house in Carlsbad would easily pull in $1,400/month in today’s dollars.
Another reason for needing a big, level lot is the over-the-top lagoon-style saltwater pool. I have big plans for that pool – a beach entry, natural rock surrounding it, a shallow cave behind a waterfall, a swim up bar. It will be ridiculously expensive, but I hope to do some of the work myself.[/quote]
What we paid is not typical… we had contractor problems. We also were bidding it out in 2007 when contractors were less hungry than now.
You should be able to do something for $200/sf from what I’m seeing with friends additions. So for 700sf, you’re looking at $140k. Russell can probably give you a better estimate, I believe he’s a contractor and has been building some apartments etc at his compound. π
Grading definitely added a lot of $ for us – we had to have civil engineering involved for drainage, structural engineering for the retaining walls… if you have a level building site you won’t have these costs.
Your planned pool sounds fantastic – be sure to host a Piggs party when you finally build it. π
September 28, 2010 at 11:07 AM #610850UCGalParticipant[quote=Ren]Do you mind if I ask how much you paid to build it, not including the slope work?
We’re going to stuff the MIL into the guest house (I kid, she’s mostly nice and sane compared to many MILs). I’ve come to the conclusion that a separate building with its own kitchen and living area is far more desirable than just a downstairs bedroom/bath for that purpose. I don’t want to cramp the kids’ style with an elderly person being a fixture in the living room during all of their teen years, and she needs a place where she can have peace and quiet without feeling like a prisoner. My wife and I both want our house to be the place where all the kids come to hang out, so we know what they’re up to.
Another good thing about a separate apartment is that once the MIL moves on, a nicely upgraded 700-800sf guest house in Carlsbad would easily pull in $1,400/month in today’s dollars.
Another reason for needing a big, level lot is the over-the-top lagoon-style saltwater pool. I have big plans for that pool – a beach entry, natural rock surrounding it, a shallow cave behind a waterfall, a swim up bar. It will be ridiculously expensive, but I hope to do some of the work myself.[/quote]
What we paid is not typical… we had contractor problems. We also were bidding it out in 2007 when contractors were less hungry than now.
You should be able to do something for $200/sf from what I’m seeing with friends additions. So for 700sf, you’re looking at $140k. Russell can probably give you a better estimate, I believe he’s a contractor and has been building some apartments etc at his compound. π
Grading definitely added a lot of $ for us – we had to have civil engineering involved for drainage, structural engineering for the retaining walls… if you have a level building site you won’t have these costs.
Your planned pool sounds fantastic – be sure to host a Piggs party when you finally build it. π
September 28, 2010 at 11:07 AM #611161UCGalParticipant[quote=Ren]Do you mind if I ask how much you paid to build it, not including the slope work?
We’re going to stuff the MIL into the guest house (I kid, she’s mostly nice and sane compared to many MILs). I’ve come to the conclusion that a separate building with its own kitchen and living area is far more desirable than just a downstairs bedroom/bath for that purpose. I don’t want to cramp the kids’ style with an elderly person being a fixture in the living room during all of their teen years, and she needs a place where she can have peace and quiet without feeling like a prisoner. My wife and I both want our house to be the place where all the kids come to hang out, so we know what they’re up to.
Another good thing about a separate apartment is that once the MIL moves on, a nicely upgraded 700-800sf guest house in Carlsbad would easily pull in $1,400/month in today’s dollars.
Another reason for needing a big, level lot is the over-the-top lagoon-style saltwater pool. I have big plans for that pool – a beach entry, natural rock surrounding it, a shallow cave behind a waterfall, a swim up bar. It will be ridiculously expensive, but I hope to do some of the work myself.[/quote]
What we paid is not typical… we had contractor problems. We also were bidding it out in 2007 when contractors were less hungry than now.
You should be able to do something for $200/sf from what I’m seeing with friends additions. So for 700sf, you’re looking at $140k. Russell can probably give you a better estimate, I believe he’s a contractor and has been building some apartments etc at his compound. π
Grading definitely added a lot of $ for us – we had to have civil engineering involved for drainage, structural engineering for the retaining walls… if you have a level building site you won’t have these costs.
Your planned pool sounds fantastic – be sure to host a Piggs party when you finally build it. π
September 28, 2010 at 12:24 PM #610223sdduuuudeParticipantFYI – I built a garage on a slope on the back of our lot in 2007, with the front of the garage at grade, and the back of the garage on a footing 11 feet below grade.
This was an engineered, permitted project. The footings were 3′ wide and had to be buried up to 8 feet deep to meet the “7-feet-to-daylight” requirement.
This was a 500 sq. ft. (although there is a huge crawl space underneath – about 6′ tall at the back – that I use for storage.) structure with minor plumbing and drywall interior Not a nice, finished interior, to say the least – just fire-taped – you know, a garage.
It cost roughly $50K. A flat garage without all the footing work would have been about $25K, I’m told – which works out about right – the footing job was $25K. Framing labor was $7K. Lumber was $11K (lumber was expensive then). Electrical quote was $4,700, but my dad did that. $3K for concrete work other than footings, $2K for drywall. $7K for stucco.
Need to make sure any lot you buy is not considered an environmentally sensitive hillside. There are ways around it, but it’s a pain.
September 28, 2010 at 12:24 PM #610139sdduuuudeParticipantFYI – I built a garage on a slope on the back of our lot in 2007, with the front of the garage at grade, and the back of the garage on a footing 11 feet below grade.
This was an engineered, permitted project. The footings were 3′ wide and had to be buried up to 8 feet deep to meet the “7-feet-to-daylight” requirement.
This was a 500 sq. ft. (although there is a huge crawl space underneath – about 6′ tall at the back – that I use for storage.) structure with minor plumbing and drywall interior Not a nice, finished interior, to say the least – just fire-taped – you know, a garage.
It cost roughly $50K. A flat garage without all the footing work would have been about $25K, I’m told – which works out about right – the footing job was $25K. Framing labor was $7K. Lumber was $11K (lumber was expensive then). Electrical quote was $4,700, but my dad did that. $3K for concrete work other than footings, $2K for drywall. $7K for stucco.
Need to make sure any lot you buy is not considered an environmentally sensitive hillside. There are ways around it, but it’s a pain.
September 28, 2010 at 12:24 PM #610774sdduuuudeParticipantFYI – I built a garage on a slope on the back of our lot in 2007, with the front of the garage at grade, and the back of the garage on a footing 11 feet below grade.
This was an engineered, permitted project. The footings were 3′ wide and had to be buried up to 8 feet deep to meet the “7-feet-to-daylight” requirement.
This was a 500 sq. ft. (although there is a huge crawl space underneath – about 6′ tall at the back – that I use for storage.) structure with minor plumbing and drywall interior Not a nice, finished interior, to say the least – just fire-taped – you know, a garage.
It cost roughly $50K. A flat garage without all the footing work would have been about $25K, I’m told – which works out about right – the footing job was $25K. Framing labor was $7K. Lumber was $11K (lumber was expensive then). Electrical quote was $4,700, but my dad did that. $3K for concrete work other than footings, $2K for drywall. $7K for stucco.
Need to make sure any lot you buy is not considered an environmentally sensitive hillside. There are ways around it, but it’s a pain.
September 28, 2010 at 12:24 PM #610884sdduuuudeParticipantFYI – I built a garage on a slope on the back of our lot in 2007, with the front of the garage at grade, and the back of the garage on a footing 11 feet below grade.
This was an engineered, permitted project. The footings were 3′ wide and had to be buried up to 8 feet deep to meet the “7-feet-to-daylight” requirement.
This was a 500 sq. ft. (although there is a huge crawl space underneath – about 6′ tall at the back – that I use for storage.) structure with minor plumbing and drywall interior Not a nice, finished interior, to say the least – just fire-taped – you know, a garage.
It cost roughly $50K. A flat garage without all the footing work would have been about $25K, I’m told – which works out about right – the footing job was $25K. Framing labor was $7K. Lumber was $11K (lumber was expensive then). Electrical quote was $4,700, but my dad did that. $3K for concrete work other than footings, $2K for drywall. $7K for stucco.
Need to make sure any lot you buy is not considered an environmentally sensitive hillside. There are ways around it, but it’s a pain.
September 28, 2010 at 12:24 PM #611196sdduuuudeParticipantFYI – I built a garage on a slope on the back of our lot in 2007, with the front of the garage at grade, and the back of the garage on a footing 11 feet below grade.
This was an engineered, permitted project. The footings were 3′ wide and had to be buried up to 8 feet deep to meet the “7-feet-to-daylight” requirement.
This was a 500 sq. ft. (although there is a huge crawl space underneath – about 6′ tall at the back – that I use for storage.) structure with minor plumbing and drywall interior Not a nice, finished interior, to say the least – just fire-taped – you know, a garage.
It cost roughly $50K. A flat garage without all the footing work would have been about $25K, I’m told – which works out about right – the footing job was $25K. Framing labor was $7K. Lumber was $11K (lumber was expensive then). Electrical quote was $4,700, but my dad did that. $3K for concrete work other than footings, $2K for drywall. $7K for stucco.
Need to make sure any lot you buy is not considered an environmentally sensitive hillside. There are ways around it, but it’s a pain.
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