Backdoor to socialized medicine?

[SK in CV]

[quote=flu]
You think $8500/yr per person is enough for small biz that is covering employees with a mix of ages including some in 45-50 years old with pre-existing conditions? Boy, like I suspected, you only looked at rates for yourself, you’re probably young, and haven’t had any medical issues. I hope for your sake that continues.[/quote]

I don’t know if Brian does. I know I do. Because I do it. I pay for a very decent small group Aetna HMO with a $15 co-pay. But even if i went to their lowest co-pay of $10, only those older than 59 would cost more than $8500 a year. 55 to 59 years old would cost $8,364 per year. (I’m looking at their renewal rate tables from 7-1-09 as i type.) Even with a 1.1 modifier, only those over 54 would be more than $8500 a year.

I’m pretty sure large group plans would be cheaper.

[SK in CV]

[quote=Hobie]And don’t forget the increases in California sales tax.

And I think Bartlett has been hanging around with Colin Powell too much.[/quote]

Yeah, those guys that put common sense and..ya know…actual facts….above party ideology. Dontcha hate it?

And remind me, the california sales tax increase was an Obama thing, was it?

[SK in CV]

[quote=Hobie]And don’t forget the increases in California sales tax.

And I think Bartlett has been hanging around with Colin Powell too much.[/quote]

Yeah, those guys that put common sense and..ya know…actual facts….above party ideology. Dontcha hate it?

And remind me, the california sales tax increase was an Obama thing, was it?

[SK in CV]

[quote=Hobie]And don’t forget the increases in California sales tax.

And I think Bartlett has been hanging around with Colin Powell too much.[/quote]

Yeah, those guys that put common sense and..ya know…actual facts….above party ideology. Dontcha hate it?

And remind me, the california sales tax increase was an Obama thing, was it?

[SK in CV]

[quote=Hobie]And don’t forget the increases in California sales tax.

And I think Bartlett has been hanging around with Colin Powell too much.[/quote]

Yeah, those guys that put common sense and..ya know…actual facts….above party ideology. Dontcha hate it?

And remind me, the california sales tax increase was an Obama thing, was it?

[SK in CV]

[quote=Hobie]And don’t forget the increases in California sales tax.

And I think Bartlett has been hanging around with Colin Powell too much.[/quote]

Yeah, those guys that put common sense and..ya know…actual facts….above party ideology. Dontcha hate it?

And remind me, the california sales tax increase was an Obama thing, was it?

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[quote=flu]
Boy, like I suspected, you only looked at rates for yourself, you’re probably young, and haven’t had any medical issues. I hope for your sake that continues.[/quote]

I really want to stay out of this, but I know plenty of young people w/illnesses. Just b/c someone is young doesn’t necessarily mean they’re healthy. There are exceptions always.

[jpinpb]

[quote=flu]
Boy, like I suspected, you only looked at rates for yourself, you’re probably young, and haven’t had any medical issues. I hope for your sake that continues.[/quote]

I really want to stay out of this, but I know plenty of young people w/illnesses. Just b/c someone is young doesn’t necessarily mean they’re healthy. There are exceptions always.

[jpinpb]

[quote=flu]
Boy, like I suspected, you only looked at rates for yourself, you’re probably young, and haven’t had any medical issues. I hope for your sake that continues.[/quote]

I really want to stay out of this, but I know plenty of young people w/illnesses. Just b/c someone is young doesn’t necessarily mean they’re healthy. There are exceptions always.

[jpinpb]

[quote=flu]
Boy, like I suspected, you only looked at rates for yourself, you’re probably young, and haven’t had any medical issues. I hope for your sake that continues.[/quote]

I really want to stay out of this, but I know plenty of young people w/illnesses. Just b/c someone is young doesn’t necessarily mean they’re healthy. There are exceptions always.

[jpinpb]

[quote=flu]
Boy, like I suspected, you only looked at rates for yourself, you’re probably young, and haven’t had any medical issues. I hope for your sake that continues.[/quote]

I really want to stay out of this, but I know plenty of young people w/illnesses. Just b/c someone is young doesn’t necessarily mean they’re healthy. There are exceptions always.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]
You think $8500/yr per person is enough for small biz that is covering employees with a mix of ages including some in 45-50 years old with pre-existing conditions? Boy, like I suspected, you only looked at rates for yourself, you’re probably young, and haven’t had any medical issues. I hope for your sake that continues.[/quote]

It’s $8,500 per person if single, and $23,000 for a family.

flu, there is a good chance that your family’s health insurance plan is not costing your employer more than $23,000. That’s why I suggested that you check with your HR department.

If your company is paying substantially more, then you really should

1/ support the Bill because you company can participate in an insurance exchange that comprises million of employees. Your company will then benefit from the rate schedules of the exchange rather than be constrained to its own small group rating.

2/ or better yet, wish for a government-run single-payer system. Your company would pay out all compensation in salaries and the government would take care of health care. One less worry for company executives.

Like ocrenter posted before, a single payer system is business friendly because it obviates the need for businesses to provide health insurance.

Additionally, employees would never be insurance-locked to jobs so they’ll be free to become entrepreneurs and innovate, if they wish.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]
You think $8500/yr per person is enough for small biz that is covering employees with a mix of ages including some in 45-50 years old with pre-existing conditions? Boy, like I suspected, you only looked at rates for yourself, you’re probably young, and haven’t had any medical issues. I hope for your sake that continues.[/quote]

It’s $8,500 per person if single, and $23,000 for a family.

flu, there is a good chance that your family’s health insurance plan is not costing your employer more than $23,000. That’s why I suggested that you check with your HR department.

If your company is paying substantially more, then you really should

1/ support the Bill because you company can participate in an insurance exchange that comprises million of employees. Your company will then benefit from the rate schedules of the exchange rather than be constrained to its own small group rating.

2/ or better yet, wish for a government-run single-payer system. Your company would pay out all compensation in salaries and the government would take care of health care. One less worry for company executives.

Like ocrenter posted before, a single payer system is business friendly because it obviates the need for businesses to provide health insurance.

Additionally, employees would never be insurance-locked to jobs so they’ll be free to become entrepreneurs and innovate, if they wish.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]
You think $8500/yr per person is enough for small biz that is covering employees with a mix of ages including some in 45-50 years old with pre-existing conditions? Boy, like I suspected, you only looked at rates for yourself, you’re probably young, and haven’t had any medical issues. I hope for your sake that continues.[/quote]

It’s $8,500 per person if single, and $23,000 for a family.

flu, there is a good chance that your family’s health insurance plan is not costing your employer more than $23,000. That’s why I suggested that you check with your HR department.

If your company is paying substantially more, then you really should

1/ support the Bill because you company can participate in an insurance exchange that comprises million of employees. Your company will then benefit from the rate schedules of the exchange rather than be constrained to its own small group rating.

2/ or better yet, wish for a government-run single-payer system. Your company would pay out all compensation in salaries and the government would take care of health care. One less worry for company executives.

Like ocrenter posted before, a single payer system is business friendly because it obviates the need for businesses to provide health insurance.

Additionally, employees would never be insurance-locked to jobs so they’ll be free to become entrepreneurs and innovate, if they wish.

[briansd1]

[quote=flu]
You think $8500/yr per person is enough for small biz that is covering employees with a mix of ages including some in 45-50 years old with pre-existing conditions? Boy, like I suspected, you only looked at rates for yourself, you’re probably young, and haven’t had any medical issues. I hope for your sake that continues.[/quote]

It’s $8,500 per person if single, and $23,000 for a family.

flu, there is a good chance that your family’s health insurance plan is not costing your employer more than $23,000. That’s why I suggested that you check with your HR department.

If your company is paying substantially more, then you really should

1/ support the Bill because you company can participate in an insurance exchange that comprises million of employees. Your company will then benefit from the rate schedules of the exchange rather than be constrained to its own small group rating.

2/ or better yet, wish for a government-run single-payer system. Your company would pay out all compensation in salaries and the government would take care of health care. One less worry for company executives.

Like ocrenter posted before, a single payer system is business friendly because it obviates the need for businesses to provide health insurance.

Additionally, employees would never be insurance-locked to jobs so they’ll be free to become entrepreneurs and innovate, if they wish.

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