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October 26, 2016 at 10:33 AM #802659October 26, 2016 at 12:15 PM #802664AnonymousGuest
[quote=millennial]Maybe you should ask what he does, and how he does it before throwing out the sarcasm.[/quote]
I already have in another thread, and didn’t get an answer.
But you keep trying, it’s fun to watch.
[quote]Some people think that sarcasm equates to cleverness, but I agree with most psychologists, that it is a maladaptive coping mechanism for those with unresolved anger or frustrations.[/quote]
Most psychologists?
Sure, it’s a coping mechanism. It’s right up there with making up facts.
October 26, 2016 at 1:20 PM #802666allParticipant[quote=millennial][quote=all]
Reminds me of a Wiener Zeitung article I once read in which the author celebrates the Treaty of Berlin proclaiming the dawn of a new era and the end of wars.[/quote]
I think what you’re saying is that you believe I’m being a little optimistic regarding the ability of social media to change human nature of starting and creating wars. I guess what I’m saying is that wars are possible, but will be much more difficult to do openly(would probably have to use drones, or poison). Utilizing Milgram’s experiment, I would say that it would be akin to shocking someone while both of you have the ability to see each other.[/quote]The power of media lies in its ability to expand the area of concern. The enemies used to live next door, or within walking distance.
Today, the enemies are on the other side of the world in Eastasia or Eurasia, one quick Instagram post away. And they are coming to get you.October 26, 2016 at 1:33 PM #802667millennialParticipant[quote=all]
The power of media lies in its ability to expand the area of concern. The enemies used to live next door, or within walking distance.
Today, the enemies are on the other side of the world in Eastasia or Eurasia, one quick Instagram post away. And they are coming to get you.[/quote]
So are you saying that just as social media has created the ability for people to be informed of atrocities happening to people throughout the world, with it comes the negative aspect that it keeps people informed of people talking shit from across the globe? I agree that this might cause discourse on a personal level, but not on nation vs. nation level. Don’t get me wrong, there are negative aspects, for example the ease of finding people with similar radical beliefs and the ease of assembling and spearheading anarchy. But I think this is different than foreign relations turning into an all out war.October 26, 2016 at 1:39 PM #802668millennialParticipant[quote=Harvey]
I already have in another thread, and didn’t get an answer.[/quote]
I see. Well then what are you trying to get from him with these antics? If you already don’t believe him, what’s the purpose?[quote=Harvey]
Most psychologists?
Sure, it’s a coping mechanism. It’s right up there with making up facts.[/quote]
Yes most psychologists…would have said all but that’s too bold of a statement, since there’s probably a few out there that think differently.
I get it now. He throws out his coping mechanisms and you use yours. Not sure what you guys are coping with, but hope it works out.
October 26, 2016 at 2:20 PM #802670AnonymousGuest[quote=millennial][quote=Harvey]
I already have in another thread, and didn’t get an answer.[/quote]
I see. Well then what are you trying to get from him with these antics? If you already don’t believe him, what’s the purpose?[/quote]You’ve got a dozen or so posts on a thread you created about the trite topic of generational superiority, and suddenly you are concerned about purpose?
As for my take on flyer’s angle (or yaw, he he) … you’re right that it’s likely a benign personality trait. Then again, you may be receiving a personal message offering the opportunity to be part of this unique, exclusive, “billion dollar” investment opportunity…
October 26, 2016 at 2:35 PM #802671millennialParticipant[quote=harvey]
You’ve got a dozen or so posts on a thread you created about the trite topic of generational superiority, and suddenly you are concerned about purpose?[/quote]I asked you about your rationale for bullying, not regarding your thoughts on this post. People create all sorts of posts on this site for whatever reason. You come to this site because you find them amusing. Personally I enjoy sociology and this topic came up at work and read an article so threw it up there.
[quote=harvey]
As for my take on flyer’s angle (or yaw, he he) … you’re right that it’s likely a benign personality trait. Then again, you may be receiving a personal message offering the opportunity to be part of this unique, exclusive, “billion dollar” investment opportunity…[/quote]There you go with your sarcasm…your primary coping mechanism.
October 26, 2016 at 2:56 PM #802673AnonymousGuestThat wasn’t sarcasm. It was well-founded cynicism.
October 26, 2016 at 2:57 PM #802674allParticipant[quote=millennial][quote=all]
The power of media lies in its ability to expand the area of concern. The enemies used to live next door, or within walking distance.
Today, the enemies are on the other side of the world in Eastasia or Eurasia, one quick Instagram post away. And they are coming to get you.[/quote]
So are you saying that just as social media has created the ability for people to be informed of atrocities happening to people throughout the world, with it comes the negative aspect that it keeps people informed of people talking shit from across the globe? I agree that this might cause discourse on a personal level, but not on nation vs. nation level. Don’t get me wrong, there are negative aspects, for example the ease of finding people with similar radical beliefs and the ease of assembling and spearheading anarchy. But I think this is different than foreign relations turning into an all out war.[/quote]So the current war in Syria, Ukraine, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, is due to the lack of access to Facebook and Twitter?
October 26, 2016 at 3:12 PM #802676millennialParticipant[quote=harvey]That wasn’t sarcasm. It was well-founded cynicism.[/quote]
No…I’m sure that was sarcasm. You’re trying to prove a point.
October 26, 2016 at 3:16 PM #802675bearishgurlParticipant[quote=millennial]. . . Personally I enjoy sociology and this topic came up at work and read an article so threw it up there. . . [/quote]millenial/yamashi, do you know why your employer felt they had to hire a “consultant” (to bridge the “generation gap” among your coworkers?)?
I worked alongside WWII’s (or “Silents”) and even a few of the “Greatest Generation” throughout my “career” and none of my employers ever found it necessary to hire a “consultant” to help us all “get along” with one another, lol …. It was a given that the elder worker had the most seniority and therefore knew the most about the organization and the jobs within it (including where all the bones were buried). A newbie green boomer-worker did not argue with these people or tell them how to do their jobs more efficiently. Instead they cozied up to them in search of a “mentor” who might be able to pull a few strings to get them the next promotion.
Could it be that the self-righteous and self-indulgent millennials were intermittently disrespectful to their elders in your workplace and the elders were the ones who suggested the employer take action on this? I’m a bit puzzled as to why your employer would coddle a portion of their employees in this way. Perhaps they felt they had no choice because of millenials’ propensity to quit, leaving them high and dry in the middle of a project if they don’t get their way at work while their straggling boomer employees are short-timers dreaming of impending retirement.
For the life of me, non “team-players” were usually summarily let go in the past or at the very least, pigeonholed into a forever dead-end position, in hopes that they would eventually quit on their own (which rarely happened).
October 26, 2016 at 3:18 PM #802677millennialParticipant[quote=all]
So the current war in Syria, Ukraine, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, is due to the lack of access to Facebook and Twitter?[/quote]
?? No that’s a ridiculous statement there is no causality between the events. There may be some correlation between the likelihood and magnitude of an event to occur, but it doesn’t work the other way around.October 26, 2016 at 3:57 PM #802679allParticipant[quote=millennial][quote=all]
So the current war in Syria, Ukraine, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, is due to the lack of access to Facebook and Twitter?[/quote]
?? No that’s a ridiculous statement there is no causality between the events. There may be some correlation between the likelihood and magnitude of an event to occur, but it doesn’t work the other way around.[/quote]You lost me. Does exposure to social media make ‘millennials’ more, or less likely to start and perpetuate wars?
October 26, 2016 at 3:58 PM #802678millennialParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
I worked alongside WWII’s (or “Silents”) and even a few of the “Greatest Generation” throughout my “career” and none of my employers ever found it necessary to hire a “consultant” to help us all “get along” with one another, lol …. [/quote]
This was not the first organization I have worked for that had consultants come in; it’s actually the third. Do you know why? Because there is a significant and recognizable difference between Millennials and Boomers and organizations now understand that. They have consultants come in because they are trying to improve the efficiency ratios of their workplace by avoiding wasted time and errors due to misunderstandings at the office.[quote=bearishgurl]
It was a given that the elder worker had the most seniority and therefore knew the most about the organization and the jobs within it (including where all the bones were buried). A newbie green boomer-worker did not argue with these people or tell them how to do their jobs more efficiently. Instead they cozied up to them in search of a “mentor” who might be able to pull a few strings to get them the next promotion.[/quote]That’s fine, I respect older people for what they can bring to the table and never argue with any of my coworkers. I guess in my workplace, seniority is really just a title and we do a lot of collaboration to find solutions. Yes often people have different viewpoints, but we all remain flexible so we can come up with the best solution for the company.
[quote=bearishgurl]Could it be that the self-righteous and self-indulgent millennials were intermittently disrespectful to their elders in your workplace and the elders were the ones who suggested the employer take action on this? [/quote]
No we did this to create tighter bonds with our fellow workers, so we can understand their points of views. Personally, I use this information to find ways to better relate to decision makers so I can get approvals done quicker and more efficiently.[quote=bearishgurl]I’m a bit puzzled as to why your employer would coddle a portion of their employees in this way.[/quote]
I guess I don’t understand. They had this workshop so we can all get to understand another more. For what it’s worth, I found it interesting enough to create a topic and spending time discussing viewpoints with you.[quote=bearishgurl]For the life of me, non “team-players” were usually summarily let go in the past or at the very least, pigeonholed into a forever dead-end position, in hopes that they would eventually quit on their own (which rarely happened).[/quote]
Same here non team-players are non-existent in my workplace.October 26, 2016 at 4:22 PM #802680millennialParticipant[quote=all]
You lost me. Does exposure to social media make ‘millennials’ more, or less likely to start and perpetuate wars?[/quote]
I’m not sure if a correlation exists between those two variables, and if one does, not sure if it would be a direct correlation or negative. I think my initial statement was in response to someone’s statement regarding Millennials believing more in egalitarianism and regarding Megalomaniacs. Personally, I think that the growth of social media and some technologies has helped create a more egalitarian world and helped diminish the powers of Megalomaniacs. Right now can’t formulate a null hypotheses that you can argue for or against.
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