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October 12, 2016 at 4:22 PM #22154October 12, 2016 at 5:18 PM #802149svelteParticipant
I have nothing against millennials.
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October 12, 2016 at 5:45 PM #802150flyerParticipantValid points, but regardless of who or what created the society we are now experiencing, here we are. It’s true that most of us Boomers took advantage of everything that was available to us to create the lives we wanted, but that was just a case of being born in the right place at the right time, with tremendous opportunities, and imo, any generation, whatever they were named, would have done the same, had they been born in that time period. Could things have been done differently?–most likely, but hindsight is always 20/20.
Bottom line is that playing the blame game isn’t going to change anyone’s life, and I hope Millennials and others, if they not happy with their lives, will be highly motivated to change what they don’t like, so they can live the lives they want to live.
October 12, 2016 at 5:46 PM #802151scaredyclassicParticipantim very suspicious of youngsters. they believe strange things.
October 12, 2016 at 6:21 PM #802152FlyerInHiGuestI feel like my nieces and young relatives are smarter than I was at their age. They know many more things and they hold better values. They are nicer and kinder.
I disagree with the author’s equivalence of Trump to obama and Clinton.
Obama is pretty forward thinking on climate change, nuclear weapons, gay marriage, life in a globalized world. He proposed a bill to modernize our infrastructure and develop public transport that will change our urban environment. He’s protected the environment like marine national monument in Hawaii. All things that millenials support.Hillary is slower to embrace change because she’s afraid of Republican backlash. It took her a long time to endorse gay marriage and that’s hurt her with millenials.
Baby boomers are getting old and falling behind. They are kind of needy people and want to be loved. So millenials have more power and sway than they know because they can withhold the love and repect the older generations want.
October 12, 2016 at 8:01 PM #802153millennialParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi]I feel like my nieces and young relatives are smarter than I was at their age. They know many more things and they hold better values. They are nicer and kinder.
I disagree with the author’s equivalence of Trump to obama and Clinton.
Obama is pretty forward thinking on climate change, nuclear weapons, gay marriage, life in a globalized world. He proposed a bill to modernize our infrastructure and develop public transport that will change our urban environment. He’s protected the environment like marine national monument in Hawaii. All things that millenials support.Hillary is slower to embrace change because she’s afraid of Republican backlash. It took her a long time to endorse gay marriage and that’s hurt her with millenials.
Baby boomers are getting old and falling behind. They are kind of needy people and want to be loved. So millenials have more power and sway than they know because they can withhold the love and repect the older generations want.[/quote]
FIH,
Obviously I agree with your viewpoints on millenials, I too find this to be true. Regarding boomers I’m really confused why you feel that they are needy people and want to be loved. It seems that Trump is the extreme opposite. He’s repugnant and feeds off hate.
October 12, 2016 at 8:03 PM #802154millennialParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]im very suspicious of youngsters. they believe strange things.[/quote]
Like what? I don’t remember us drinking poisonous punch, taking massive amounts of LSD and living in communes. Your answers are always obtuse and fail to explain much of anything. Please expand.
October 12, 2016 at 8:09 PM #802155millennialParticipant[quote=flyer]Valid points, but regardless of who or what created the society we are now experiencing, here we are. It’s true that most of us Boomers took advantage of everything that was available to us to create the lives we wanted, but that was just a case of being born in the right place at the right time, with tremendous opportunities, and imo, any generation, whatever they were named, would have done the same, had they been born in that time period. Could things have been done differently?–most likely, but hindsight is always 20/20.
Bottom line is that playing the blame game isn’t going to change anyone’s life, and I hope Millennials and others, if they not happy with their lives, will be highly motivated to change what they don’t like, so they can live the lives they want to live.[/quote]
Flyer,
I believe we have. We continue to stress work/life balance so we can spend more time with people we care about (in contrast to letting our kids roam the streets), we care about our planet (because it will not last forever), and we believe in urbanization (because we hate long commutes).
October 12, 2016 at 8:51 PM #802157njtosdParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]im very suspicious of youngsters. they believe strange things.[/quote]
I love the word youngsters. And they do believe strange things – like the appropriateness of putting wet towels in the hamper.
Every generation seems to emphasize a few issues about which they will be more “open minded” than their parents. Sex, sexism, racism, transgender issues etc. are all issues some (not all) people have used over the years as badges of one generation or another. Sometimes I feel like groups get used as a tool by others to prove the others’ “right” way of thinking. Kind of like celebrities used to adopt diseases to “care” about so they would appear empathic.
As the old saying goes – I value more a kind word spoken close to my ear.
October 12, 2016 at 11:17 PM #802164JPJonesParticipant[quote=yamashi][quote=scaredyclassic]im very suspicious of youngsters. they believe strange things.[/quote]
Like what? I don’t remember us drinking poisonous punch, taking massive amounts of LSD and living in communes. Your answers are always obtuse and fail to explain much of anything. Please expand.[/quote]
Think Grampa Simpson. “I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I’m with isn’t it, and what’s it seems weird and scary to me, and it’ll happen to you, too.”
That’s scaredy in a nutshell.
October 12, 2016 at 11:43 PM #802165scaredyclassicParticipantthey seem to reject the idea of “gender”, and believe it is fluid, for starters.
October 13, 2016 at 12:01 AM #802166flyerParticipantI can’t speak for all Boomers, and, fortunately I don’t know any of the type that have been described by other posters, but I’m sure many Boomers fulfill the negative definitions that have been posted here, just as many Millenials fulfill the negative definitions many hold about them.
That said, I can only speak for the lifestyle my friends and family embrace, which is one that puts family, friends and other chosen priorities first (and, believe me, none of my children ran the streets of Rancho Santa Fe when they were being raised here); created multiple sources of passive of income at a very early age, so we have been able to spend our time as we choose most of our lives–doing the things that are most important to us without financial concern–as well as creating a legacy for our children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren, etc.–all without long commutes, or becoming needy, and with more love than we could ever want if we were to live to be a thousand.
October 13, 2016 at 12:12 AM #802168millennialParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]they seem to reject the idea of “gender”, and believe it is fluid, for starters.[/quote]
?? Excuse me? Gender like male and female? fluid…what?October 13, 2016 at 12:13 AM #802167millennialParticipant[quote=JPJones]
Think Grampa Simpson. “I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I’m with isn’t it, and what’s it seems weird and scary to me, and it’ll happen to you, too.”
That’s scaredy in a nutshell.[/quote]
OK that explains it! Thanks for putting it in terms I can understand. So basically scaredy is an old crotchety wrinkly old man who is approaching senility.
October 13, 2016 at 12:31 AM #802169millennialParticipant[quote=flyer]I can’t speak for all Boomers, and, fortunately I don’t know any of the type that have been described by other posters, but I’m sure many Boomers fulfill the negative definitions that have been posted here, just as many Millenials fulfill the negative definitions many hold about them.[/quote]
Which negative definitions can you hold against Millenials?
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That said, I can only speak for the lifestyle my friends and family embrace, which is one that puts family, friends and other chosen priorities first (and, believe me, none of my children ran the streets of Rancho Santa Fe when they were being raised here)[/quote]This was said in a separate post by another Boomer, so I assumed this was the case.
[quote=flyer]created multiple sources of passive of income at a very early age, so we have been able to spend our time as we choose most of our lives–doing the things that are most important to us without financial concern–as well as creating a legacy for our children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren, etc.–all without long commutes, or becoming needy, and with more love than we could ever want if we were to live to be a thousand.[/quote]
This is great for you and your family, which my parents have also done for me. Flyer you seem like a great father/grandfather, but honestly do you think what you have done is the norm? From a macro point of view, as a Millenial we are stuck with a Social Security system which we pay into that we may never see; rising insurance rates to pay for Boomers’ increasing needs; and a political system that seems old an antiquated. We do all this, while hearing about how lazy, whiny and weak we are.
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