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April 9, 2008 at 5:19 PM #183967April 9, 2008 at 5:29 PM #183922jpinpbParticipant
marion – did not mean it to be profiting from sex. But when a divorce happens, it seems that aspect is rendered null and worthless. Even if it is mutual enjoyment, it’s sad that it becomes meaningless in a divorce. It’s still a part of you that is given to the other. Does making love have no value at all? It must be of some value, since men are willing to pay for it, whether it be on dates or hookers.
My comment was only to say that everything a wife does out of love is worth something and should not be taken for granted, yet when a divorce happens, men think they can walk away and kick the wife to the curb w/out any obligation – – – Like they’re walking away from a subprime loan – π
What happens to morals when there are actual human beings and feelings involved? We’re talking about financial obligations when buying a house, an object, yet we don’t have any morals when it comes to people.
Getting deep and OT. Sorry. Probably was not too pleased w/the Leykis comment. Luckily, I understand his show is entertainment just like Stern and all the others that instigate people for ratings.
April 9, 2008 at 5:29 PM #183935jpinpbParticipantmarion – did not mean it to be profiting from sex. But when a divorce happens, it seems that aspect is rendered null and worthless. Even if it is mutual enjoyment, it’s sad that it becomes meaningless in a divorce. It’s still a part of you that is given to the other. Does making love have no value at all? It must be of some value, since men are willing to pay for it, whether it be on dates or hookers.
My comment was only to say that everything a wife does out of love is worth something and should not be taken for granted, yet when a divorce happens, men think they can walk away and kick the wife to the curb w/out any obligation – – – Like they’re walking away from a subprime loan – π
What happens to morals when there are actual human beings and feelings involved? We’re talking about financial obligations when buying a house, an object, yet we don’t have any morals when it comes to people.
Getting deep and OT. Sorry. Probably was not too pleased w/the Leykis comment. Luckily, I understand his show is entertainment just like Stern and all the others that instigate people for ratings.
April 9, 2008 at 5:29 PM #183963jpinpbParticipantmarion – did not mean it to be profiting from sex. But when a divorce happens, it seems that aspect is rendered null and worthless. Even if it is mutual enjoyment, it’s sad that it becomes meaningless in a divorce. It’s still a part of you that is given to the other. Does making love have no value at all? It must be of some value, since men are willing to pay for it, whether it be on dates or hookers.
My comment was only to say that everything a wife does out of love is worth something and should not be taken for granted, yet when a divorce happens, men think they can walk away and kick the wife to the curb w/out any obligation – – – Like they’re walking away from a subprime loan – π
What happens to morals when there are actual human beings and feelings involved? We’re talking about financial obligations when buying a house, an object, yet we don’t have any morals when it comes to people.
Getting deep and OT. Sorry. Probably was not too pleased w/the Leykis comment. Luckily, I understand his show is entertainment just like Stern and all the others that instigate people for ratings.
April 9, 2008 at 5:29 PM #183970jpinpbParticipantmarion – did not mean it to be profiting from sex. But when a divorce happens, it seems that aspect is rendered null and worthless. Even if it is mutual enjoyment, it’s sad that it becomes meaningless in a divorce. It’s still a part of you that is given to the other. Does making love have no value at all? It must be of some value, since men are willing to pay for it, whether it be on dates or hookers.
My comment was only to say that everything a wife does out of love is worth something and should not be taken for granted, yet when a divorce happens, men think they can walk away and kick the wife to the curb w/out any obligation – – – Like they’re walking away from a subprime loan – π
What happens to morals when there are actual human beings and feelings involved? We’re talking about financial obligations when buying a house, an object, yet we don’t have any morals when it comes to people.
Getting deep and OT. Sorry. Probably was not too pleased w/the Leykis comment. Luckily, I understand his show is entertainment just like Stern and all the others that instigate people for ratings.
April 9, 2008 at 5:29 PM #183976jpinpbParticipantmarion – did not mean it to be profiting from sex. But when a divorce happens, it seems that aspect is rendered null and worthless. Even if it is mutual enjoyment, it’s sad that it becomes meaningless in a divorce. It’s still a part of you that is given to the other. Does making love have no value at all? It must be of some value, since men are willing to pay for it, whether it be on dates or hookers.
My comment was only to say that everything a wife does out of love is worth something and should not be taken for granted, yet when a divorce happens, men think they can walk away and kick the wife to the curb w/out any obligation – – – Like they’re walking away from a subprime loan – π
What happens to morals when there are actual human beings and feelings involved? We’re talking about financial obligations when buying a house, an object, yet we don’t have any morals when it comes to people.
Getting deep and OT. Sorry. Probably was not too pleased w/the Leykis comment. Luckily, I understand his show is entertainment just like Stern and all the others that instigate people for ratings.
April 9, 2008 at 5:35 PM #183925daveljParticipant“Awful post?” I’m truly honored.
Marion, no need to apologize (“Sorry, Dave”) – your opinion of me is irrelevant. Like many of your posts, the rest of your previous post is cliched dime store sophistry. But at least you’re consistently entertaining. And I appreciate that. Keep up the good work.
More specifically, however, you stated that “to say a woman shouldn’t be compensated for doing housework and putting her career aside to raise children is a very greedy and self-serving perspective.” Were you forced into this arrangement? It sure looks like you chose this deal for yourself. I’ll agree that doing housework and putting aside your career to raise children doesn’t sound like a good deal but, again, you decided to participate. It was your choice.
PJ,
“You quit your job for however many years…” – This looks suspiciously like a choice.
“You destroy your body breeding for your husband.” This also looks suspiciously like a choice and assumes that only the husband is interested in the “breeding,” which is almost never the case.
“You work for free…” – Again, sounds like a choice, and it’s not “free” as the husband has to pay for food, shelter, etc. (presuming the woman is not working).
“Now ask yourself what all that would cost if you had to pay someone to do it for however many years.” Yup, you’d have to pay a nanny from the Czech Republic $150/week plus provide food and shelter.OK, back to the dungeon to nurture my dark and empty soul. Bwahahahahaha…
April 9, 2008 at 5:35 PM #183942daveljParticipant“Awful post?” I’m truly honored.
Marion, no need to apologize (“Sorry, Dave”) – your opinion of me is irrelevant. Like many of your posts, the rest of your previous post is cliched dime store sophistry. But at least you’re consistently entertaining. And I appreciate that. Keep up the good work.
More specifically, however, you stated that “to say a woman shouldn’t be compensated for doing housework and putting her career aside to raise children is a very greedy and self-serving perspective.” Were you forced into this arrangement? It sure looks like you chose this deal for yourself. I’ll agree that doing housework and putting aside your career to raise children doesn’t sound like a good deal but, again, you decided to participate. It was your choice.
PJ,
“You quit your job for however many years…” – This looks suspiciously like a choice.
“You destroy your body breeding for your husband.” This also looks suspiciously like a choice and assumes that only the husband is interested in the “breeding,” which is almost never the case.
“You work for free…” – Again, sounds like a choice, and it’s not “free” as the husband has to pay for food, shelter, etc. (presuming the woman is not working).
“Now ask yourself what all that would cost if you had to pay someone to do it for however many years.” Yup, you’d have to pay a nanny from the Czech Republic $150/week plus provide food and shelter.OK, back to the dungeon to nurture my dark and empty soul. Bwahahahahaha…
April 9, 2008 at 5:35 PM #183968daveljParticipant“Awful post?” I’m truly honored.
Marion, no need to apologize (“Sorry, Dave”) – your opinion of me is irrelevant. Like many of your posts, the rest of your previous post is cliched dime store sophistry. But at least you’re consistently entertaining. And I appreciate that. Keep up the good work.
More specifically, however, you stated that “to say a woman shouldn’t be compensated for doing housework and putting her career aside to raise children is a very greedy and self-serving perspective.” Were you forced into this arrangement? It sure looks like you chose this deal for yourself. I’ll agree that doing housework and putting aside your career to raise children doesn’t sound like a good deal but, again, you decided to participate. It was your choice.
PJ,
“You quit your job for however many years…” – This looks suspiciously like a choice.
“You destroy your body breeding for your husband.” This also looks suspiciously like a choice and assumes that only the husband is interested in the “breeding,” which is almost never the case.
“You work for free…” – Again, sounds like a choice, and it’s not “free” as the husband has to pay for food, shelter, etc. (presuming the woman is not working).
“Now ask yourself what all that would cost if you had to pay someone to do it for however many years.” Yup, you’d have to pay a nanny from the Czech Republic $150/week plus provide food and shelter.OK, back to the dungeon to nurture my dark and empty soul. Bwahahahahaha…
April 9, 2008 at 5:35 PM #183975daveljParticipant“Awful post?” I’m truly honored.
Marion, no need to apologize (“Sorry, Dave”) – your opinion of me is irrelevant. Like many of your posts, the rest of your previous post is cliched dime store sophistry. But at least you’re consistently entertaining. And I appreciate that. Keep up the good work.
More specifically, however, you stated that “to say a woman shouldn’t be compensated for doing housework and putting her career aside to raise children is a very greedy and self-serving perspective.” Were you forced into this arrangement? It sure looks like you chose this deal for yourself. I’ll agree that doing housework and putting aside your career to raise children doesn’t sound like a good deal but, again, you decided to participate. It was your choice.
PJ,
“You quit your job for however many years…” – This looks suspiciously like a choice.
“You destroy your body breeding for your husband.” This also looks suspiciously like a choice and assumes that only the husband is interested in the “breeding,” which is almost never the case.
“You work for free…” – Again, sounds like a choice, and it’s not “free” as the husband has to pay for food, shelter, etc. (presuming the woman is not working).
“Now ask yourself what all that would cost if you had to pay someone to do it for however many years.” Yup, you’d have to pay a nanny from the Czech Republic $150/week plus provide food and shelter.OK, back to the dungeon to nurture my dark and empty soul. Bwahahahahaha…
April 9, 2008 at 5:35 PM #183981daveljParticipant“Awful post?” I’m truly honored.
Marion, no need to apologize (“Sorry, Dave”) – your opinion of me is irrelevant. Like many of your posts, the rest of your previous post is cliched dime store sophistry. But at least you’re consistently entertaining. And I appreciate that. Keep up the good work.
More specifically, however, you stated that “to say a woman shouldn’t be compensated for doing housework and putting her career aside to raise children is a very greedy and self-serving perspective.” Were you forced into this arrangement? It sure looks like you chose this deal for yourself. I’ll agree that doing housework and putting aside your career to raise children doesn’t sound like a good deal but, again, you decided to participate. It was your choice.
PJ,
“You quit your job for however many years…” – This looks suspiciously like a choice.
“You destroy your body breeding for your husband.” This also looks suspiciously like a choice and assumes that only the husband is interested in the “breeding,” which is almost never the case.
“You work for free…” – Again, sounds like a choice, and it’s not “free” as the husband has to pay for food, shelter, etc. (presuming the woman is not working).
“Now ask yourself what all that would cost if you had to pay someone to do it for however many years.” Yup, you’d have to pay a nanny from the Czech Republic $150/week plus provide food and shelter.OK, back to the dungeon to nurture my dark and empty soul. Bwahahahahaha…
April 9, 2008 at 5:44 PM #183937jpinpbParticipantSilly what some women “choose” to do for love. I pity your girlfriend/wife. I hope she makes smarter choices, since apparently the choices some women make have no value to you.
(still $600 a month – and that’s using your slimeball price)
April 9, 2008 at 5:44 PM #183952jpinpbParticipantSilly what some women “choose” to do for love. I pity your girlfriend/wife. I hope she makes smarter choices, since apparently the choices some women make have no value to you.
(still $600 a month – and that’s using your slimeball price)
April 9, 2008 at 5:44 PM #183978jpinpbParticipantSilly what some women “choose” to do for love. I pity your girlfriend/wife. I hope she makes smarter choices, since apparently the choices some women make have no value to you.
(still $600 a month – and that’s using your slimeball price)
April 9, 2008 at 5:44 PM #183985jpinpbParticipantSilly what some women “choose” to do for love. I pity your girlfriend/wife. I hope she makes smarter choices, since apparently the choices some women make have no value to you.
(still $600 a month – and that’s using your slimeball price)
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