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April 19, 2008 at 12:15 PM #190418April 19, 2008 at 12:15 PM #190466temeculaguyParticipant
After reading that exchange between jasper and CA renter, I’m, literally exhausted and convinced men and women are not meant to do anything other than mate.
If I can figure out a way to be gay and not have sex with men, I think I’m going with that.
April 19, 2008 at 3:06 PM #190417CA renterParticipantJasper,
Let’s all be grateful that every one of us is different and has different wants and needs. Otherwise, we’d all be chasing the same people, and most of us wouldn’t have a chance to mate.
Personally, I would never marry a man who wasn’t my best friend. I can work on cars and my husband can cook — he’s the shopper, not me. I’ve never watched a soap opera in my life. It’s friendship and a good sense of humor that carries most marriages through the hard times; that, and an understanding that marriage is about duty, obligation and committment more than it is about dating and good times. Marriage and a cohesive family is society’s oldest and best “social safety net.”
Also, we should understand that a woman’s greatest assets (where men are concerned) are youth, beauty and an ability to procreate — no matter how much we try to deny it. A man’s greatest assets (where women are concerned) are his power/social status and income-earning capacity — no matter how much we try to deny that.
A woman’s contribution is front-loaded, while a man’s contribution tends to be back-loaded (their ability to earn more money and have more power/social status tend to occur later in life).
Women have an implicit understanding (even if most men disagree) that women offer up their greatest assets in exchange for a man’s greatest assets.
Of course, if a couple decides to remain childless, I have no problem with the “no alimony or obligation” stance, as her income-earning capacity would not be hindered by marriage and children.
Don’t forget, when a woman (or man) chooses to stay home to WORK (it’s not free rent), it is usually a mutual decision. If you think it’s “not work,” you have never done it. I’ve done both (work inside and outside the home) and can say for a fact that working in the home is much more demanding and exhausting than working at an outside job.
April 19, 2008 at 3:06 PM #190440CA renterParticipantJasper,
Let’s all be grateful that every one of us is different and has different wants and needs. Otherwise, we’d all be chasing the same people, and most of us wouldn’t have a chance to mate.
Personally, I would never marry a man who wasn’t my best friend. I can work on cars and my husband can cook — he’s the shopper, not me. I’ve never watched a soap opera in my life. It’s friendship and a good sense of humor that carries most marriages through the hard times; that, and an understanding that marriage is about duty, obligation and committment more than it is about dating and good times. Marriage and a cohesive family is society’s oldest and best “social safety net.”
Also, we should understand that a woman’s greatest assets (where men are concerned) are youth, beauty and an ability to procreate — no matter how much we try to deny it. A man’s greatest assets (where women are concerned) are his power/social status and income-earning capacity — no matter how much we try to deny that.
A woman’s contribution is front-loaded, while a man’s contribution tends to be back-loaded (their ability to earn more money and have more power/social status tend to occur later in life).
Women have an implicit understanding (even if most men disagree) that women offer up their greatest assets in exchange for a man’s greatest assets.
Of course, if a couple decides to remain childless, I have no problem with the “no alimony or obligation” stance, as her income-earning capacity would not be hindered by marriage and children.
Don’t forget, when a woman (or man) chooses to stay home to WORK (it’s not free rent), it is usually a mutual decision. If you think it’s “not work,” you have never done it. I’ve done both (work inside and outside the home) and can say for a fact that working in the home is much more demanding and exhausting than working at an outside job.
April 19, 2008 at 3:06 PM #190470CA renterParticipantJasper,
Let’s all be grateful that every one of us is different and has different wants and needs. Otherwise, we’d all be chasing the same people, and most of us wouldn’t have a chance to mate.
Personally, I would never marry a man who wasn’t my best friend. I can work on cars and my husband can cook — he’s the shopper, not me. I’ve never watched a soap opera in my life. It’s friendship and a good sense of humor that carries most marriages through the hard times; that, and an understanding that marriage is about duty, obligation and committment more than it is about dating and good times. Marriage and a cohesive family is society’s oldest and best “social safety net.”
Also, we should understand that a woman’s greatest assets (where men are concerned) are youth, beauty and an ability to procreate — no matter how much we try to deny it. A man’s greatest assets (where women are concerned) are his power/social status and income-earning capacity — no matter how much we try to deny that.
A woman’s contribution is front-loaded, while a man’s contribution tends to be back-loaded (their ability to earn more money and have more power/social status tend to occur later in life).
Women have an implicit understanding (even if most men disagree) that women offer up their greatest assets in exchange for a man’s greatest assets.
Of course, if a couple decides to remain childless, I have no problem with the “no alimony or obligation” stance, as her income-earning capacity would not be hindered by marriage and children.
Don’t forget, when a woman (or man) chooses to stay home to WORK (it’s not free rent), it is usually a mutual decision. If you think it’s “not work,” you have never done it. I’ve done both (work inside and outside the home) and can say for a fact that working in the home is much more demanding and exhausting than working at an outside job.
April 19, 2008 at 3:06 PM #190482CA renterParticipantJasper,
Let’s all be grateful that every one of us is different and has different wants and needs. Otherwise, we’d all be chasing the same people, and most of us wouldn’t have a chance to mate.
Personally, I would never marry a man who wasn’t my best friend. I can work on cars and my husband can cook — he’s the shopper, not me. I’ve never watched a soap opera in my life. It’s friendship and a good sense of humor that carries most marriages through the hard times; that, and an understanding that marriage is about duty, obligation and committment more than it is about dating and good times. Marriage and a cohesive family is society’s oldest and best “social safety net.”
Also, we should understand that a woman’s greatest assets (where men are concerned) are youth, beauty and an ability to procreate — no matter how much we try to deny it. A man’s greatest assets (where women are concerned) are his power/social status and income-earning capacity — no matter how much we try to deny that.
A woman’s contribution is front-loaded, while a man’s contribution tends to be back-loaded (their ability to earn more money and have more power/social status tend to occur later in life).
Women have an implicit understanding (even if most men disagree) that women offer up their greatest assets in exchange for a man’s greatest assets.
Of course, if a couple decides to remain childless, I have no problem with the “no alimony or obligation” stance, as her income-earning capacity would not be hindered by marriage and children.
Don’t forget, when a woman (or man) chooses to stay home to WORK (it’s not free rent), it is usually a mutual decision. If you think it’s “not work,” you have never done it. I’ve done both (work inside and outside the home) and can say for a fact that working in the home is much more demanding and exhausting than working at an outside job.
April 19, 2008 at 3:06 PM #190530CA renterParticipantJasper,
Let’s all be grateful that every one of us is different and has different wants and needs. Otherwise, we’d all be chasing the same people, and most of us wouldn’t have a chance to mate.
Personally, I would never marry a man who wasn’t my best friend. I can work on cars and my husband can cook — he’s the shopper, not me. I’ve never watched a soap opera in my life. It’s friendship and a good sense of humor that carries most marriages through the hard times; that, and an understanding that marriage is about duty, obligation and committment more than it is about dating and good times. Marriage and a cohesive family is society’s oldest and best “social safety net.”
Also, we should understand that a woman’s greatest assets (where men are concerned) are youth, beauty and an ability to procreate — no matter how much we try to deny it. A man’s greatest assets (where women are concerned) are his power/social status and income-earning capacity — no matter how much we try to deny that.
A woman’s contribution is front-loaded, while a man’s contribution tends to be back-loaded (their ability to earn more money and have more power/social status tend to occur later in life).
Women have an implicit understanding (even if most men disagree) that women offer up their greatest assets in exchange for a man’s greatest assets.
Of course, if a couple decides to remain childless, I have no problem with the “no alimony or obligation” stance, as her income-earning capacity would not be hindered by marriage and children.
Don’t forget, when a woman (or man) chooses to stay home to WORK (it’s not free rent), it is usually a mutual decision. If you think it’s “not work,” you have never done it. I’ve done both (work inside and outside the home) and can say for a fact that working in the home is much more demanding and exhausting than working at an outside job.
April 19, 2008 at 3:26 PM #190428AnonymousGuestjasper: Luckily my wife has very low expectations of me, which im unfortunately continualy unable to meet. However, i do recognize that her abandonment of hope for my improvement dispells any nagging, her anticipation of my underachievement is what keeps the relationship positive and her realization that there isnt much of a chance for her to find a better guy keeps us together.
I am shaking my head as I read this, the above view of a relationship between a man and woman is simply disgusting.
I would never stay in a relationship with a selfish, self-centered, uncaring man. The attitude of “I bet my wife/girlfriend can’t do better has come back to bite many a man in the arse.” Whether your wife can or cannot do better remains to be seen. One thing is certain though, if I were her I’d certainly give it the old college try.
Ca Renter, I like your posts, you are spot on. A woman should be appreciated for her role in the family and her work and sacrifices when it comes to raising children. Keep up the good posts. π
April 19, 2008 at 3:26 PM #190449AnonymousGuestjasper: Luckily my wife has very low expectations of me, which im unfortunately continualy unable to meet. However, i do recognize that her abandonment of hope for my improvement dispells any nagging, her anticipation of my underachievement is what keeps the relationship positive and her realization that there isnt much of a chance for her to find a better guy keeps us together.
I am shaking my head as I read this, the above view of a relationship between a man and woman is simply disgusting.
I would never stay in a relationship with a selfish, self-centered, uncaring man. The attitude of “I bet my wife/girlfriend can’t do better has come back to bite many a man in the arse.” Whether your wife can or cannot do better remains to be seen. One thing is certain though, if I were her I’d certainly give it the old college try.
Ca Renter, I like your posts, you are spot on. A woman should be appreciated for her role in the family and her work and sacrifices when it comes to raising children. Keep up the good posts. π
April 19, 2008 at 3:26 PM #190481AnonymousGuestjasper: Luckily my wife has very low expectations of me, which im unfortunately continualy unable to meet. However, i do recognize that her abandonment of hope for my improvement dispells any nagging, her anticipation of my underachievement is what keeps the relationship positive and her realization that there isnt much of a chance for her to find a better guy keeps us together.
I am shaking my head as I read this, the above view of a relationship between a man and woman is simply disgusting.
I would never stay in a relationship with a selfish, self-centered, uncaring man. The attitude of “I bet my wife/girlfriend can’t do better has come back to bite many a man in the arse.” Whether your wife can or cannot do better remains to be seen. One thing is certain though, if I were her I’d certainly give it the old college try.
Ca Renter, I like your posts, you are spot on. A woman should be appreciated for her role in the family and her work and sacrifices when it comes to raising children. Keep up the good posts. π
April 19, 2008 at 3:26 PM #190492AnonymousGuestjasper: Luckily my wife has very low expectations of me, which im unfortunately continualy unable to meet. However, i do recognize that her abandonment of hope for my improvement dispells any nagging, her anticipation of my underachievement is what keeps the relationship positive and her realization that there isnt much of a chance for her to find a better guy keeps us together.
I am shaking my head as I read this, the above view of a relationship between a man and woman is simply disgusting.
I would never stay in a relationship with a selfish, self-centered, uncaring man. The attitude of “I bet my wife/girlfriend can’t do better has come back to bite many a man in the arse.” Whether your wife can or cannot do better remains to be seen. One thing is certain though, if I were her I’d certainly give it the old college try.
Ca Renter, I like your posts, you are spot on. A woman should be appreciated for her role in the family and her work and sacrifices when it comes to raising children. Keep up the good posts. π
April 19, 2008 at 3:26 PM #190539AnonymousGuestjasper: Luckily my wife has very low expectations of me, which im unfortunately continualy unable to meet. However, i do recognize that her abandonment of hope for my improvement dispells any nagging, her anticipation of my underachievement is what keeps the relationship positive and her realization that there isnt much of a chance for her to find a better guy keeps us together.
I am shaking my head as I read this, the above view of a relationship between a man and woman is simply disgusting.
I would never stay in a relationship with a selfish, self-centered, uncaring man. The attitude of “I bet my wife/girlfriend can’t do better has come back to bite many a man in the arse.” Whether your wife can or cannot do better remains to be seen. One thing is certain though, if I were her I’d certainly give it the old college try.
Ca Renter, I like your posts, you are spot on. A woman should be appreciated for her role in the family and her work and sacrifices when it comes to raising children. Keep up the good posts. π
April 19, 2008 at 3:41 PM #190437nostradamusParticipantGood to see we can all learn new things here:
Good wives are forever slim, beautiful, youthful-looking, kind, subservient, nurturing, never nag
Where did you learn that from? Nobody here said such a thing… Am I missing something?
a woman's greatest assets (where men are concerned) are youth, beauty and an ability to procreate
If only it were true. I'd be married to a young, beautiful, fertile idiot and have a house full of idiot children but hey, they'd be pretty.
If I can figure out a way to be gay and not have sex with men, I think I'm going with that.
Nice one TG. I can't be gay (unless I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body) but if I could give birth I gladly would, just to disarm those who would whine that it's work thus they should get paid for it.
April 19, 2008 at 3:41 PM #190461nostradamusParticipantGood to see we can all learn new things here:
Good wives are forever slim, beautiful, youthful-looking, kind, subservient, nurturing, never nag
Where did you learn that from? Nobody here said such a thing… Am I missing something?
a woman's greatest assets (where men are concerned) are youth, beauty and an ability to procreate
If only it were true. I'd be married to a young, beautiful, fertile idiot and have a house full of idiot children but hey, they'd be pretty.
If I can figure out a way to be gay and not have sex with men, I think I'm going with that.
Nice one TG. I can't be gay (unless I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body) but if I could give birth I gladly would, just to disarm those who would whine that it's work thus they should get paid for it.
April 19, 2008 at 3:41 PM #190491nostradamusParticipantGood to see we can all learn new things here:
Good wives are forever slim, beautiful, youthful-looking, kind, subservient, nurturing, never nag
Where did you learn that from? Nobody here said such a thing… Am I missing something?
a woman's greatest assets (where men are concerned) are youth, beauty and an ability to procreate
If only it were true. I'd be married to a young, beautiful, fertile idiot and have a house full of idiot children but hey, they'd be pretty.
If I can figure out a way to be gay and not have sex with men, I think I'm going with that.
Nice one TG. I can't be gay (unless I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body) but if I could give birth I gladly would, just to disarm those who would whine that it's work thus they should get paid for it.
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