Any new >1000 home housing projects being planned

[an]

[quote=AK]Not sure where the water’s going to come from. You know, for the step-in whirlpool tubs that all the wealthy out-of-state retirees will be buying.[/quote]
There’s that big giant ocean to the west of us. We can use some of that. At a certain point, wouldn’t desalination system be cost competitive?

[BGinRB]

[quote=AN][quote=AK]Not sure where the water’s going to come from. You know, for the step-in whirlpool tubs that all the wealthy out-of-state retirees will be buying.[/quote]
There’s that big giant ocean to the west of us. We can use some of that. At a certain point, wouldn’t desalination system be cost competitive?[/quote]

The pesky little issue of attorney fees collected while fighting the good fight of protecting the marine life will prevent that.
Just look at the fees collected while fighting to remove seals.

[BGinRB]

[quote=AN][quote=AK]Not sure where the water’s going to come from. You know, for the step-in whirlpool tubs that all the wealthy out-of-state retirees will be buying.[/quote]
There’s that big giant ocean to the west of us. We can use some of that. At a certain point, wouldn’t desalination system be cost competitive?[/quote]

The pesky little issue of attorney fees collected while fighting the good fight of protecting the marine life will prevent that.
Just look at the fees collected while fighting to remove seals.

[BGinRB]

[quote=AN][quote=AK]Not sure where the water’s going to come from. You know, for the step-in whirlpool tubs that all the wealthy out-of-state retirees will be buying.[/quote]
There’s that big giant ocean to the west of us. We can use some of that. At a certain point, wouldn’t desalination system be cost competitive?[/quote]

The pesky little issue of attorney fees collected while fighting the good fight of protecting the marine life will prevent that.
Just look at the fees collected while fighting to remove seals.

[BGinRB]

[quote=AN][quote=AK]Not sure where the water’s going to come from. You know, for the step-in whirlpool tubs that all the wealthy out-of-state retirees will be buying.[/quote]
There’s that big giant ocean to the west of us. We can use some of that. At a certain point, wouldn’t desalination system be cost competitive?[/quote]

The pesky little issue of attorney fees collected while fighting the good fight of protecting the marine life will prevent that.
Just look at the fees collected while fighting to remove seals.

[BGinRB]

[quote=AN][quote=AK]Not sure where the water’s going to come from. You know, for the step-in whirlpool tubs that all the wealthy out-of-state retirees will be buying.[/quote]
There’s that big giant ocean to the west of us. We can use some of that. At a certain point, wouldn’t desalination system be cost competitive?[/quote]

The pesky little issue of attorney fees collected while fighting the good fight of protecting the marine life will prevent that.
Just look at the fees collected while fighting to remove seals.

[UCGal]

I agree with AN – there will be a surplus of the 2500sf+ houses for a while. There is already a demand for the smaller, more affordable housing. Which is why anything under $300k gets snatched up.

I can see a developer doing a dense build of smaller houses on smaller lots – 1500 sf house on 3500 sf lot. Yes, the ppsf would be higher than the 4500 sf McMansion, but it would still price out at a spot where more middle class people could afford it… without the creative financing.

But – it would require people getting over their sense of entitlement that they deserve a starter home in a new development that is 2500sf and bigger. This recession and the collapse of the bubble might be doing it’s part to adjust that feeling of entitlement.

[UCGal]

I agree with AN – there will be a surplus of the 2500sf+ houses for a while. There is already a demand for the smaller, more affordable housing. Which is why anything under $300k gets snatched up.

I can see a developer doing a dense build of smaller houses on smaller lots – 1500 sf house on 3500 sf lot. Yes, the ppsf would be higher than the 4500 sf McMansion, but it would still price out at a spot where more middle class people could afford it… without the creative financing.

But – it would require people getting over their sense of entitlement that they deserve a starter home in a new development that is 2500sf and bigger. This recession and the collapse of the bubble might be doing it’s part to adjust that feeling of entitlement.

[UCGal]

I agree with AN – there will be a surplus of the 2500sf+ houses for a while. There is already a demand for the smaller, more affordable housing. Which is why anything under $300k gets snatched up.

I can see a developer doing a dense build of smaller houses on smaller lots – 1500 sf house on 3500 sf lot. Yes, the ppsf would be higher than the 4500 sf McMansion, but it would still price out at a spot where more middle class people could afford it… without the creative financing.

But – it would require people getting over their sense of entitlement that they deserve a starter home in a new development that is 2500sf and bigger. This recession and the collapse of the bubble might be doing it’s part to adjust that feeling of entitlement.

[UCGal]

I agree with AN – there will be a surplus of the 2500sf+ houses for a while. There is already a demand for the smaller, more affordable housing. Which is why anything under $300k gets snatched up.

I can see a developer doing a dense build of smaller houses on smaller lots – 1500 sf house on 3500 sf lot. Yes, the ppsf would be higher than the 4500 sf McMansion, but it would still price out at a spot where more middle class people could afford it… without the creative financing.

But – it would require people getting over their sense of entitlement that they deserve a starter home in a new development that is 2500sf and bigger. This recession and the collapse of the bubble might be doing it’s part to adjust that feeling of entitlement.

[UCGal]

I agree with AN – there will be a surplus of the 2500sf+ houses for a while. There is already a demand for the smaller, more affordable housing. Which is why anything under $300k gets snatched up.

I can see a developer doing a dense build of smaller houses on smaller lots – 1500 sf house on 3500 sf lot. Yes, the ppsf would be higher than the 4500 sf McMansion, but it would still price out at a spot where more middle class people could afford it… without the creative financing.

But – it would require people getting over their sense of entitlement that they deserve a starter home in a new development that is 2500sf and bigger. This recession and the collapse of the bubble might be doing it’s part to adjust that feeling of entitlement.

[an]

Some more data from Sandag regarding this same topic:
http://profilewarehouse.sandag.org/profiles/est/reg999est.pdf
http://profilewarehouse.sandag.org/profiles/fcst/reg999fcst.pdf

First link is 2000-2008 estimate. Second link is 2030 forecast. You can see that they’re forecasting that by 2030, total population would increase by 32% (~970k people). While total housing unite will only increase by 26% (~300k units). They’re also have some very interesting forecast on household income between 2004 and 2030 as well. They’re expecting median household income to increase by 20% between 2004-2030, adjusted for inflation.

[an]

Some more data from Sandag regarding this same topic:
http://profilewarehouse.sandag.org/profiles/est/reg999est.pdf
http://profilewarehouse.sandag.org/profiles/fcst/reg999fcst.pdf

First link is 2000-2008 estimate. Second link is 2030 forecast. You can see that they’re forecasting that by 2030, total population would increase by 32% (~970k people). While total housing unite will only increase by 26% (~300k units). They’re also have some very interesting forecast on household income between 2004 and 2030 as well. They’re expecting median household income to increase by 20% between 2004-2030, adjusted for inflation.

[an]

Some more data from Sandag regarding this same topic:
http://profilewarehouse.sandag.org/profiles/est/reg999est.pdf
http://profilewarehouse.sandag.org/profiles/fcst/reg999fcst.pdf

First link is 2000-2008 estimate. Second link is 2030 forecast. You can see that they’re forecasting that by 2030, total population would increase by 32% (~970k people). While total housing unite will only increase by 26% (~300k units). They’re also have some very interesting forecast on household income between 2004 and 2030 as well. They’re expecting median household income to increase by 20% between 2004-2030, adjusted for inflation.

[an]

Some more data from Sandag regarding this same topic:
http://profilewarehouse.sandag.org/profiles/est/reg999est.pdf
http://profilewarehouse.sandag.org/profiles/fcst/reg999fcst.pdf

First link is 2000-2008 estimate. Second link is 2030 forecast. You can see that they’re forecasting that by 2030, total population would increase by 32% (~970k people). While total housing unite will only increase by 26% (~300k units). They’re also have some very interesting forecast on household income between 2004 and 2030 as well. They’re expecting median household income to increase by 20% between 2004-2030, adjusted for inflation.

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