Airline shutdowns

[dumbrenter]

This was not about oil. It was about airlines managements doing nothing for 18 months to comply with FAA regulations on maintenance. They got scared after Southwest got fined by FAA.

More than oil, it has to do with incompetence and lack of responsibility towards shareholders.

[DWCAP]

HUH? no, the bankruptcies had everything to do with oil. If I remember right, Southwests fuel bill doubled last year. It is offly hard to survive when your second biggest input doubled, but competion says you cant raise fares.
The disruptions to travel were caused by the FAA freaking out on American and a few other airlines for much to do about nothing. That was politics and retarded government oversight but it didnt put anyone outa buisness, yet. The weakest airlines will go first, and the rest will merge to reduce competion and raise fares. Dont be suprised when American blames their miserable numbers this quarter on the gov though.

[DWCAP]

HUH? no, the bankruptcies had everything to do with oil. If I remember right, Southwests fuel bill doubled last year. It is offly hard to survive when your second biggest input doubled, but competion says you cant raise fares.
The disruptions to travel were caused by the FAA freaking out on American and a few other airlines for much to do about nothing. That was politics and retarded government oversight but it didnt put anyone outa buisness, yet. The weakest airlines will go first, and the rest will merge to reduce competion and raise fares. Dont be suprised when American blames their miserable numbers this quarter on the gov though.

[DWCAP]

HUH? no, the bankruptcies had everything to do with oil. If I remember right, Southwests fuel bill doubled last year. It is offly hard to survive when your second biggest input doubled, but competion says you cant raise fares.
The disruptions to travel were caused by the FAA freaking out on American and a few other airlines for much to do about nothing. That was politics and retarded government oversight but it didnt put anyone outa buisness, yet. The weakest airlines will go first, and the rest will merge to reduce competion and raise fares. Dont be suprised when American blames their miserable numbers this quarter on the gov though.

[DWCAP]

HUH? no, the bankruptcies had everything to do with oil. If I remember right, Southwests fuel bill doubled last year. It is offly hard to survive when your second biggest input doubled, but competion says you cant raise fares.
The disruptions to travel were caused by the FAA freaking out on American and a few other airlines for much to do about nothing. That was politics and retarded government oversight but it didnt put anyone outa buisness, yet. The weakest airlines will go first, and the rest will merge to reduce competion and raise fares. Dont be suprised when American blames their miserable numbers this quarter on the gov though.

[DWCAP]

HUH? no, the bankruptcies had everything to do with oil. If I remember right, Southwests fuel bill doubled last year. It is offly hard to survive when your second biggest input doubled, but competion says you cant raise fares.
The disruptions to travel were caused by the FAA freaking out on American and a few other airlines for much to do about nothing. That was politics and retarded government oversight but it didnt put anyone outa buisness, yet. The weakest airlines will go first, and the rest will merge to reduce competion and raise fares. Dont be suprised when American blames their miserable numbers this quarter on the gov though.

[dumbrenter]

American is already blaming the government if you read arpey’s rants.
Airlines with decent management that can read, write and think will HAVE to account for a scenario where the cost of fuel increases. Rising cost of fuel is not an unexpected event anymore and somebody as dumb as I am would have mentioned that even 4 years ago. Rising fuel prices affect all other airlines too. Then how come they are showing profits? Southwest, if I remember right was the first one to get into hedging business in fuel. International airlines copied this method and perfected it further.

Here are some dumb questions from a dumb renter about airline business:
(1) How is Southwest surviving by raising their ticket prices? Even I noticed that their fares are more expensive than a year ago.
(2) How is it that international carriers make money on the pacific routes and fill their seats while United and American go empty? How is it that these routes are considered lucrative by international airlines, but no so by US based carriers? They all pay for their fuel in open market, don’t they?

Maybe these asian airlines fill their planes because they provide “service”? A quick check shows that they are actually more expensive to fly pacific routes than either United or American.

[dumbrenter]

American is already blaming the government if you read arpey’s rants.
Airlines with decent management that can read, write and think will HAVE to account for a scenario where the cost of fuel increases. Rising cost of fuel is not an unexpected event anymore and somebody as dumb as I am would have mentioned that even 4 years ago. Rising fuel prices affect all other airlines too. Then how come they are showing profits? Southwest, if I remember right was the first one to get into hedging business in fuel. International airlines copied this method and perfected it further.

Here are some dumb questions from a dumb renter about airline business:
(1) How is Southwest surviving by raising their ticket prices? Even I noticed that their fares are more expensive than a year ago.
(2) How is it that international carriers make money on the pacific routes and fill their seats while United and American go empty? How is it that these routes are considered lucrative by international airlines, but no so by US based carriers? They all pay for their fuel in open market, don’t they?

Maybe these asian airlines fill their planes because they provide “service”? A quick check shows that they are actually more expensive to fly pacific routes than either United or American.

[dumbrenter]

American is already blaming the government if you read arpey’s rants.
Airlines with decent management that can read, write and think will HAVE to account for a scenario where the cost of fuel increases. Rising cost of fuel is not an unexpected event anymore and somebody as dumb as I am would have mentioned that even 4 years ago. Rising fuel prices affect all other airlines too. Then how come they are showing profits? Southwest, if I remember right was the first one to get into hedging business in fuel. International airlines copied this method and perfected it further.

Here are some dumb questions from a dumb renter about airline business:
(1) How is Southwest surviving by raising their ticket prices? Even I noticed that their fares are more expensive than a year ago.
(2) How is it that international carriers make money on the pacific routes and fill their seats while United and American go empty? How is it that these routes are considered lucrative by international airlines, but no so by US based carriers? They all pay for their fuel in open market, don’t they?

Maybe these asian airlines fill their planes because they provide “service”? A quick check shows that they are actually more expensive to fly pacific routes than either United or American.

[dumbrenter]

American is already blaming the government if you read arpey’s rants.
Airlines with decent management that can read, write and think will HAVE to account for a scenario where the cost of fuel increases. Rising cost of fuel is not an unexpected event anymore and somebody as dumb as I am would have mentioned that even 4 years ago. Rising fuel prices affect all other airlines too. Then how come they are showing profits? Southwest, if I remember right was the first one to get into hedging business in fuel. International airlines copied this method and perfected it further.

Here are some dumb questions from a dumb renter about airline business:
(1) How is Southwest surviving by raising their ticket prices? Even I noticed that their fares are more expensive than a year ago.
(2) How is it that international carriers make money on the pacific routes and fill their seats while United and American go empty? How is it that these routes are considered lucrative by international airlines, but no so by US based carriers? They all pay for their fuel in open market, don’t they?

Maybe these asian airlines fill their planes because they provide “service”? A quick check shows that they are actually more expensive to fly pacific routes than either United or American.

[dumbrenter]

American is already blaming the government if you read arpey’s rants.
Airlines with decent management that can read, write and think will HAVE to account for a scenario where the cost of fuel increases. Rising cost of fuel is not an unexpected event anymore and somebody as dumb as I am would have mentioned that even 4 years ago. Rising fuel prices affect all other airlines too. Then how come they are showing profits? Southwest, if I remember right was the first one to get into hedging business in fuel. International airlines copied this method and perfected it further.

Here are some dumb questions from a dumb renter about airline business:
(1) How is Southwest surviving by raising their ticket prices? Even I noticed that their fares are more expensive than a year ago.
(2) How is it that international carriers make money on the pacific routes and fill their seats while United and American go empty? How is it that these routes are considered lucrative by international airlines, but no so by US based carriers? They all pay for their fuel in open market, don’t they?

Maybe these asian airlines fill their planes because they provide “service”? A quick check shows that they are actually more expensive to fly pacific routes than either United or American.

[atr]

There are two separate issues being discussed here:

1. Several airlines have recently tanked due to rising fuel costs, industry competition, etc. Others may be coming down the pike this year. This is nothing new in the airline industry, but will certainly be prevalent as the cost of fuel isn’t going to decrease anytime soon.

2. American Airlines (among others) canceled a bunch of flights due to overdue inspections on certain aircraft. This doesn’t have anything to do with oil prices. When Southwest was fined, other airlines had to sit up and take steps to avoid the same thing happening to them.

I can’t answer your other questions, dumbrenter, but I am seeing from your posts and those of others that people are discussing two separate and not necessarily related issues.

[atr]

There are two separate issues being discussed here:

1. Several airlines have recently tanked due to rising fuel costs, industry competition, etc. Others may be coming down the pike this year. This is nothing new in the airline industry, but will certainly be prevalent as the cost of fuel isn’t going to decrease anytime soon.

2. American Airlines (among others) canceled a bunch of flights due to overdue inspections on certain aircraft. This doesn’t have anything to do with oil prices. When Southwest was fined, other airlines had to sit up and take steps to avoid the same thing happening to them.

I can’t answer your other questions, dumbrenter, but I am seeing from your posts and those of others that people are discussing two separate and not necessarily related issues.

[atr]

There are two separate issues being discussed here:

1. Several airlines have recently tanked due to rising fuel costs, industry competition, etc. Others may be coming down the pike this year. This is nothing new in the airline industry, but will certainly be prevalent as the cost of fuel isn’t going to decrease anytime soon.

2. American Airlines (among others) canceled a bunch of flights due to overdue inspections on certain aircraft. This doesn’t have anything to do with oil prices. When Southwest was fined, other airlines had to sit up and take steps to avoid the same thing happening to them.

I can’t answer your other questions, dumbrenter, but I am seeing from your posts and those of others that people are discussing two separate and not necessarily related issues.

[atr]

There are two separate issues being discussed here:

1. Several airlines have recently tanked due to rising fuel costs, industry competition, etc. Others may be coming down the pike this year. This is nothing new in the airline industry, but will certainly be prevalent as the cost of fuel isn’t going to decrease anytime soon.

2. American Airlines (among others) canceled a bunch of flights due to overdue inspections on certain aircraft. This doesn’t have anything to do with oil prices. When Southwest was fined, other airlines had to sit up and take steps to avoid the same thing happening to them.

I can’t answer your other questions, dumbrenter, but I am seeing from your posts and those of others that people are discussing two separate and not necessarily related issues.

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