Advice on 5bdrms in Carmel Country Highlands

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Rhett]There are a lot of people speculating on commute options by looking at Google maps. Rather than have these ego-driven, “I am smarter than you” exchanges, wouldn’t it make sense for people to actually *ask* if any Piggington reader does those commutes on a regular basis?

I’ve seen it take over 40 minutes to go from Campus Point Drive to the 52 on ramp on Genesee, and that is not abnormal – you can depend on it a few times a week. On many days, it would actually be faster to take 5 South (which is itself a bit congested normally) to 52 East to Regents or Genesee North, effectively making a “loop” around the UTC area.

Likewise, any commute that takes you to 56 Eastbound in the afternoon, or uses Westbound in the morning, is going to be horrible. Every single day.

Worst case scenario analysis is pointless – almost every option for the original poster is going to involve some route that can get awful.[/quote]

I completely agree about looking at maps online, Rhett. That’s why I asked Eugene specifically about his experience with State Route 56. Even AN couldn’t necessarily determine the blockages of the service road from Google maps.

My understanding was that you worked in the vicinity of UCSD. Thanks for your insight as well, as to SR-56. This is definitely in the OP’s “need-to-know” category.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=sdrealtor][quote=bearishgurl]Brian, I live in Chula Vista, which, incidentally, has MUCH higher scores for the “Hispanic” population than these other “coveted” schools can seem to muster. What does that tell you about the teachers in these “top schools,” overall?? WHO exactly are they “catering to” all day??[/quote]

What it tells you is that well educated hispanic families tend to buy newer homes and congregate in Chula Vista while the hispanic kids in carmel Valley tend to come from long time hispanic families that tend to be lower income. Its not the job the schools are doing rather it is the families the kdis are coming from. Great schools are more about immersing your kids in a challenging/competitive environment and instilling that in them at an early age than having great teachers who can be anywhere.[/quote]

Actually, many “well-educated Hispanic families” in the South County are also long-time residents of the US (some 3rd generation) and contrary to popular belief, many are physicians, dentists, lawyers, general contractors and business owners. These families buy (and inherit) both new AND older properties, often with estate-like grounds of more than one acre. I don’t buy the notion that “Hispanic families” living within the TPHS attendance area are lower income. I believe “well-educated Hispanic families” live EVERYWHERE in San Diego County, including inside the covenant. Therefore, it is every public schools’ duty to cater to this population as much as they cater to other populations of students. Just because Spanish is the first language spoken in a student’s home does not necessarily make this student lower income or more “disadvantaged” than his/her peers. In many ways, it is a bonus for a young child to already be bilingual in a world where this is a very necessary skill for many jobs.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=sdrealtor][quote=bearishgurl]Brian, I live in Chula Vista, which, incidentally, has MUCH higher scores for the “Hispanic” population than these other “coveted” schools can seem to muster. What does that tell you about the teachers in these “top schools,” overall?? WHO exactly are they “catering to” all day??[/quote]

What it tells you is that well educated hispanic families tend to buy newer homes and congregate in Chula Vista while the hispanic kids in carmel Valley tend to come from long time hispanic families that tend to be lower income. Its not the job the schools are doing rather it is the families the kdis are coming from. Great schools are more about immersing your kids in a challenging/competitive environment and instilling that in them at an early age than having great teachers who can be anywhere.[/quote]

Actually, many “well-educated Hispanic families” in the South County are also long-time residents of the US (some 3rd generation) and contrary to popular belief, many are physicians, dentists, lawyers, general contractors and business owners. These families buy (and inherit) both new AND older properties, often with estate-like grounds of more than one acre. I don’t buy the notion that “Hispanic families” living within the TPHS attendance area are lower income. I believe “well-educated Hispanic families” live EVERYWHERE in San Diego County, including inside the covenant. Therefore, it is every public schools’ duty to cater to this population as much as they cater to other populations of students. Just because Spanish is the first language spoken in a student’s home does not necessarily make this student lower income or more “disadvantaged” than his/her peers. In many ways, it is a bonus for a young child to already be bilingual in a world where this is a very necessary skill for many jobs.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=sdrealtor][quote=bearishgurl]Brian, I live in Chula Vista, which, incidentally, has MUCH higher scores for the “Hispanic” population than these other “coveted” schools can seem to muster. What does that tell you about the teachers in these “top schools,” overall?? WHO exactly are they “catering to” all day??[/quote]

What it tells you is that well educated hispanic families tend to buy newer homes and congregate in Chula Vista while the hispanic kids in carmel Valley tend to come from long time hispanic families that tend to be lower income. Its not the job the schools are doing rather it is the families the kdis are coming from. Great schools are more about immersing your kids in a challenging/competitive environment and instilling that in them at an early age than having great teachers who can be anywhere.[/quote]

Actually, many “well-educated Hispanic families” in the South County are also long-time residents of the US (some 3rd generation) and contrary to popular belief, many are physicians, dentists, lawyers, general contractors and business owners. These families buy (and inherit) both new AND older properties, often with estate-like grounds of more than one acre. I don’t buy the notion that “Hispanic families” living within the TPHS attendance area are lower income. I believe “well-educated Hispanic families” live EVERYWHERE in San Diego County, including inside the covenant. Therefore, it is every public schools’ duty to cater to this population as much as they cater to other populations of students. Just because Spanish is the first language spoken in a student’s home does not necessarily make this student lower income or more “disadvantaged” than his/her peers. In many ways, it is a bonus for a young child to already be bilingual in a world where this is a very necessary skill for many jobs.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=sdrealtor][quote=bearishgurl]Brian, I live in Chula Vista, which, incidentally, has MUCH higher scores for the “Hispanic” population than these other “coveted” schools can seem to muster. What does that tell you about the teachers in these “top schools,” overall?? WHO exactly are they “catering to” all day??[/quote]

What it tells you is that well educated hispanic families tend to buy newer homes and congregate in Chula Vista while the hispanic kids in carmel Valley tend to come from long time hispanic families that tend to be lower income. Its not the job the schools are doing rather it is the families the kdis are coming from. Great schools are more about immersing your kids in a challenging/competitive environment and instilling that in them at an early age than having great teachers who can be anywhere.[/quote]

Actually, many “well-educated Hispanic families” in the South County are also long-time residents of the US (some 3rd generation) and contrary to popular belief, many are physicians, dentists, lawyers, general contractors and business owners. These families buy (and inherit) both new AND older properties, often with estate-like grounds of more than one acre. I don’t buy the notion that “Hispanic families” living within the TPHS attendance area are lower income. I believe “well-educated Hispanic families” live EVERYWHERE in San Diego County, including inside the covenant. Therefore, it is every public schools’ duty to cater to this population as much as they cater to other populations of students. Just because Spanish is the first language spoken in a student’s home does not necessarily make this student lower income or more “disadvantaged” than his/her peers. In many ways, it is a bonus for a young child to already be bilingual in a world where this is a very necessary skill for many jobs.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=sdrealtor][quote=bearishgurl]Brian, I live in Chula Vista, which, incidentally, has MUCH higher scores for the “Hispanic” population than these other “coveted” schools can seem to muster. What does that tell you about the teachers in these “top schools,” overall?? WHO exactly are they “catering to” all day??[/quote]

What it tells you is that well educated hispanic families tend to buy newer homes and congregate in Chula Vista while the hispanic kids in carmel Valley tend to come from long time hispanic families that tend to be lower income. Its not the job the schools are doing rather it is the families the kdis are coming from. Great schools are more about immersing your kids in a challenging/competitive environment and instilling that in them at an early age than having great teachers who can be anywhere.[/quote]

Actually, many “well-educated Hispanic families” in the South County are also long-time residents of the US (some 3rd generation) and contrary to popular belief, many are physicians, dentists, lawyers, general contractors and business owners. These families buy (and inherit) both new AND older properties, often with estate-like grounds of more than one acre. I don’t buy the notion that “Hispanic families” living within the TPHS attendance area are lower income. I believe “well-educated Hispanic families” live EVERYWHERE in San Diego County, including inside the covenant. Therefore, it is every public schools’ duty to cater to this population as much as they cater to other populations of students. Just because Spanish is the first language spoken in a student’s home does not necessarily make this student lower income or more “disadvantaged” than his/her peers. In many ways, it is a bonus for a young child to already be bilingual in a world where this is a very necessary skill for many jobs.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]yellowS2K, here are some example of what you can get in SV:
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100051278-6688_Hollycrest_Ct_San_Diego_CA_92121

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100053986-11060_Lopez_Ridge_Way_San_Diego_CA_92121

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100070304-5919_Seacrest_View_Rd_San_Diego_CA_92121
[/quote]

AN, your second link on Lopez Ridge Way is a very well-appointed, quiet and kid-friendly property with a view. The fireplace is to die for and its large “rustic” entertainment center appears to be built-in!

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]yellowS2K, here are some example of what you can get in SV:
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100051278-6688_Hollycrest_Ct_San_Diego_CA_92121

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100053986-11060_Lopez_Ridge_Way_San_Diego_CA_92121

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100070304-5919_Seacrest_View_Rd_San_Diego_CA_92121
[/quote]

AN, your second link on Lopez Ridge Way is a very well-appointed, quiet and kid-friendly property with a view. The fireplace is to die for and its large “rustic” entertainment center appears to be built-in!

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]yellowS2K, here are some example of what you can get in SV:
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100051278-6688_Hollycrest_Ct_San_Diego_CA_92121

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100053986-11060_Lopez_Ridge_Way_San_Diego_CA_92121

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100070304-5919_Seacrest_View_Rd_San_Diego_CA_92121
[/quote]

AN, your second link on Lopez Ridge Way is a very well-appointed, quiet and kid-friendly property with a view. The fireplace is to die for and its large “rustic” entertainment center appears to be built-in!

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]yellowS2K, here are some example of what you can get in SV:
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100051278-6688_Hollycrest_Ct_San_Diego_CA_92121

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100053986-11060_Lopez_Ridge_Way_San_Diego_CA_92121

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100070304-5919_Seacrest_View_Rd_San_Diego_CA_92121
[/quote]

AN, your second link on Lopez Ridge Way is a very well-appointed, quiet and kid-friendly property with a view. The fireplace is to die for and its large “rustic” entertainment center appears to be built-in!

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]yellowS2K, here are some example of what you can get in SV:
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100051278-6688_Hollycrest_Ct_San_Diego_CA_92121

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100053986-11060_Lopez_Ridge_Way_San_Diego_CA_92121

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100070304-5919_Seacrest_View_Rd_San_Diego_CA_92121
[/quote]

AN, your second link on Lopez Ridge Way is a very well-appointed, quiet and kid-friendly property with a view. The fireplace is to die for and its large “rustic” entertainment center appears to be built-in!

[Eugene]

[quote]Brian, I live in Chula Vista, which, incidentally, has MUCH higher scores for the “Hispanic” population than these other “coveted” schools can seem to muster. [/quote]

It’s pure socioeconomic status, silly. It works like this.

980: upper middle/upper class Asians
900: middle class Asians
?: lower class Asians (do we have any in San Diego?)

970: upper middle/upper class whites (e.g. Torrey Pines Elementary, Rancho Santa Fe Elementary, Curie Elementary)
850: middle class whites
780: white trash

880: upper middle class hispanics (Bonita, Eastlake)
800: middle class hispanics
700: lower class hispanics/foreign born

[Eugene]

[quote]Brian, I live in Chula Vista, which, incidentally, has MUCH higher scores for the “Hispanic” population than these other “coveted” schools can seem to muster. [/quote]

It’s pure socioeconomic status, silly. It works like this.

980: upper middle/upper class Asians
900: middle class Asians
?: lower class Asians (do we have any in San Diego?)

970: upper middle/upper class whites (e.g. Torrey Pines Elementary, Rancho Santa Fe Elementary, Curie Elementary)
850: middle class whites
780: white trash

880: upper middle class hispanics (Bonita, Eastlake)
800: middle class hispanics
700: lower class hispanics/foreign born

[Eugene]

[quote]Brian, I live in Chula Vista, which, incidentally, has MUCH higher scores for the “Hispanic” population than these other “coveted” schools can seem to muster. [/quote]

It’s pure socioeconomic status, silly. It works like this.

980: upper middle/upper class Asians
900: middle class Asians
?: lower class Asians (do we have any in San Diego?)

970: upper middle/upper class whites (e.g. Torrey Pines Elementary, Rancho Santa Fe Elementary, Curie Elementary)
850: middle class whites
780: white trash

880: upper middle class hispanics (Bonita, Eastlake)
800: middle class hispanics
700: lower class hispanics/foreign born

[Eugene]

[quote]Brian, I live in Chula Vista, which, incidentally, has MUCH higher scores for the “Hispanic” population than these other “coveted” schools can seem to muster. [/quote]

It’s pure socioeconomic status, silly. It works like this.

980: upper middle/upper class Asians
900: middle class Asians
?: lower class Asians (do we have any in San Diego?)

970: upper middle/upper class whites (e.g. Torrey Pines Elementary, Rancho Santa Fe Elementary, Curie Elementary)
850: middle class whites
780: white trash

880: upper middle class hispanics (Bonita, Eastlake)
800: middle class hispanics
700: lower class hispanics/foreign born

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