A nice “upbeat” commentary on America’s future

[bubba99]

18 inches is the legal minimum, but never cut it that short. 18.5 is the recommended minimum since about a half inch goes into the upper receiver, and some police might think 18 is really 17.5 which would be illegal.

Plus, any modification to a stock weapon makes it harder to explain to a DA or jury that you were only acting in self defense. The modification make it look like you had the intent to kill, the desire to harm etc.

[jonnycsd]

Per Peterb’s post – he is right on the money – shotguns are a superior home defense weapon.

Now, my original post was not clear that you should keep in practice with the rounds you will use. If you plan to use them, for any purpose, shoot them enough to know them. Thanks to Allan for pointing that out.

But there is no reason to ALWAYS shoot a “combat” load – that is just silly. In fact, for novice shooters working on technique it can be a great help to get comfortable with a light load, and move up as you get more comfortable (which is what I suggested) – especially if you are intimidated at first. Also, if you are going shoot a lot you may not want the real abuse that a hotter round will dish out.

Most people who are shooting 38s with a .357 revolver are doing it because they are cheaper, not for the reduced kick.

You can learn plenty at the range despite what Allan says. If you are interested in combat training, I’d recommend going to a true combat school with professional instructors. You will have a great time and learn a ton.

[jonnycsd]

Per Peterb’s post – he is right on the money – shotguns are a superior home defense weapon.

Now, my original post was not clear that you should keep in practice with the rounds you will use. If you plan to use them, for any purpose, shoot them enough to know them. Thanks to Allan for pointing that out.

But there is no reason to ALWAYS shoot a “combat” load – that is just silly. In fact, for novice shooters working on technique it can be a great help to get comfortable with a light load, and move up as you get more comfortable (which is what I suggested) – especially if you are intimidated at first. Also, if you are going shoot a lot you may not want the real abuse that a hotter round will dish out.

Most people who are shooting 38s with a .357 revolver are doing it because they are cheaper, not for the reduced kick.

You can learn plenty at the range despite what Allan says. If you are interested in combat training, I’d recommend going to a true combat school with professional instructors. You will have a great time and learn a ton.

[jonnycsd]

Per Peterb’s post – he is right on the money – shotguns are a superior home defense weapon.

Now, my original post was not clear that you should keep in practice with the rounds you will use. If you plan to use them, for any purpose, shoot them enough to know them. Thanks to Allan for pointing that out.

But there is no reason to ALWAYS shoot a “combat” load – that is just silly. In fact, for novice shooters working on technique it can be a great help to get comfortable with a light load, and move up as you get more comfortable (which is what I suggested) – especially if you are intimidated at first. Also, if you are going shoot a lot you may not want the real abuse that a hotter round will dish out.

Most people who are shooting 38s with a .357 revolver are doing it because they are cheaper, not for the reduced kick.

You can learn plenty at the range despite what Allan says. If you are interested in combat training, I’d recommend going to a true combat school with professional instructors. You will have a great time and learn a ton.

[jonnycsd]

Per Peterb’s post – he is right on the money – shotguns are a superior home defense weapon.

Now, my original post was not clear that you should keep in practice with the rounds you will use. If you plan to use them, for any purpose, shoot them enough to know them. Thanks to Allan for pointing that out.

But there is no reason to ALWAYS shoot a “combat” load – that is just silly. In fact, for novice shooters working on technique it can be a great help to get comfortable with a light load, and move up as you get more comfortable (which is what I suggested) – especially if you are intimidated at first. Also, if you are going shoot a lot you may not want the real abuse that a hotter round will dish out.

Most people who are shooting 38s with a .357 revolver are doing it because they are cheaper, not for the reduced kick.

You can learn plenty at the range despite what Allan says. If you are interested in combat training, I’d recommend going to a true combat school with professional instructors. You will have a great time and learn a ton.

[jonnycsd]

Per Peterb’s post – he is right on the money – shotguns are a superior home defense weapon.

Now, my original post was not clear that you should keep in practice with the rounds you will use. If you plan to use them, for any purpose, shoot them enough to know them. Thanks to Allan for pointing that out.

But there is no reason to ALWAYS shoot a “combat” load – that is just silly. In fact, for novice shooters working on technique it can be a great help to get comfortable with a light load, and move up as you get more comfortable (which is what I suggested) – especially if you are intimidated at first. Also, if you are going shoot a lot you may not want the real abuse that a hotter round will dish out.

Most people who are shooting 38s with a .357 revolver are doing it because they are cheaper, not for the reduced kick.

You can learn plenty at the range despite what Allan says. If you are interested in combat training, I’d recommend going to a true combat school with professional instructors. You will have a great time and learn a ton.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

jonny: Best way to learn proper technique with a handgun is to learn by shooting a .22. There are some excellent pistols out there, like the Ruger Mark II, that fit the bill. You can purchase targets that show, based on where the round is hitting, what you are doing wrong from a technical standpoint (i.e. yanking the trigger versus squeezing, anticipating recoil, etc).

I would agree that shooting .38s is more inexpensive and certainly less punishing. However, once you acclimate yourself with the weapon, switch to the rounds you are going to use in a combat situation.

Problem with range shooting versus combat shooting is that range shooting teaches several bad habits that can prove fatal in combat. The reports that followed the Newhall Massacre more than adequately cover this, and illustrate the dangers of spending too much time on the range. If you are interested in combat shooting, put yourself as close to the actual situation as possible, including shooting in low light and sublight conditions and without hearing and eye protection. Learn different styles of shooting, including point shooting and instinctive shooting.

I concur completely with the recommendation of going to a good combat school and learning. No disrespect intended, but I’ve spent a considerable amount of time on ranges and the idiot to professional ratio is disproportionately in favor of the former.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

jonny: Best way to learn proper technique with a handgun is to learn by shooting a .22. There are some excellent pistols out there, like the Ruger Mark II, that fit the bill. You can purchase targets that show, based on where the round is hitting, what you are doing wrong from a technical standpoint (i.e. yanking the trigger versus squeezing, anticipating recoil, etc).

I would agree that shooting .38s is more inexpensive and certainly less punishing. However, once you acclimate yourself with the weapon, switch to the rounds you are going to use in a combat situation.

Problem with range shooting versus combat shooting is that range shooting teaches several bad habits that can prove fatal in combat. The reports that followed the Newhall Massacre more than adequately cover this, and illustrate the dangers of spending too much time on the range. If you are interested in combat shooting, put yourself as close to the actual situation as possible, including shooting in low light and sublight conditions and without hearing and eye protection. Learn different styles of shooting, including point shooting and instinctive shooting.

I concur completely with the recommendation of going to a good combat school and learning. No disrespect intended, but I’ve spent a considerable amount of time on ranges and the idiot to professional ratio is disproportionately in favor of the former.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

jonny: Best way to learn proper technique with a handgun is to learn by shooting a .22. There are some excellent pistols out there, like the Ruger Mark II, that fit the bill. You can purchase targets that show, based on where the round is hitting, what you are doing wrong from a technical standpoint (i.e. yanking the trigger versus squeezing, anticipating recoil, etc).

I would agree that shooting .38s is more inexpensive and certainly less punishing. However, once you acclimate yourself with the weapon, switch to the rounds you are going to use in a combat situation.

Problem with range shooting versus combat shooting is that range shooting teaches several bad habits that can prove fatal in combat. The reports that followed the Newhall Massacre more than adequately cover this, and illustrate the dangers of spending too much time on the range. If you are interested in combat shooting, put yourself as close to the actual situation as possible, including shooting in low light and sublight conditions and without hearing and eye protection. Learn different styles of shooting, including point shooting and instinctive shooting.

I concur completely with the recommendation of going to a good combat school and learning. No disrespect intended, but I’ve spent a considerable amount of time on ranges and the idiot to professional ratio is disproportionately in favor of the former.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

jonny: Best way to learn proper technique with a handgun is to learn by shooting a .22. There are some excellent pistols out there, like the Ruger Mark II, that fit the bill. You can purchase targets that show, based on where the round is hitting, what you are doing wrong from a technical standpoint (i.e. yanking the trigger versus squeezing, anticipating recoil, etc).

I would agree that shooting .38s is more inexpensive and certainly less punishing. However, once you acclimate yourself with the weapon, switch to the rounds you are going to use in a combat situation.

Problem with range shooting versus combat shooting is that range shooting teaches several bad habits that can prove fatal in combat. The reports that followed the Newhall Massacre more than adequately cover this, and illustrate the dangers of spending too much time on the range. If you are interested in combat shooting, put yourself as close to the actual situation as possible, including shooting in low light and sublight conditions and without hearing and eye protection. Learn different styles of shooting, including point shooting and instinctive shooting.

I concur completely with the recommendation of going to a good combat school and learning. No disrespect intended, but I’ve spent a considerable amount of time on ranges and the idiot to professional ratio is disproportionately in favor of the former.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

jonny: Best way to learn proper technique with a handgun is to learn by shooting a .22. There are some excellent pistols out there, like the Ruger Mark II, that fit the bill. You can purchase targets that show, based on where the round is hitting, what you are doing wrong from a technical standpoint (i.e. yanking the trigger versus squeezing, anticipating recoil, etc).

I would agree that shooting .38s is more inexpensive and certainly less punishing. However, once you acclimate yourself with the weapon, switch to the rounds you are going to use in a combat situation.

Problem with range shooting versus combat shooting is that range shooting teaches several bad habits that can prove fatal in combat. The reports that followed the Newhall Massacre more than adequately cover this, and illustrate the dangers of spending too much time on the range. If you are interested in combat shooting, put yourself as close to the actual situation as possible, including shooting in low light and sublight conditions and without hearing and eye protection. Learn different styles of shooting, including point shooting and instinctive shooting.

I concur completely with the recommendation of going to a good combat school and learning. No disrespect intended, but I’ve spent a considerable amount of time on ranges and the idiot to professional ratio is disproportionately in favor of the former.

[sdduuuude]

Rich – I think we need a thread re-naming function that could be used in case of major thread-jacking.

Or at least a “sub name” that could be listed next to the original title.

The subname here would be “All about guns”

[sdduuuude]

Rich – I think we need a thread re-naming function that could be used in case of major thread-jacking.

Or at least a “sub name” that could be listed next to the original title.

The subname here would be “All about guns”

[sdduuuude]

Rich – I think we need a thread re-naming function that could be used in case of major thread-jacking.

Or at least a “sub name” that could be listed next to the original title.

The subname here would be “All about guns”

[sdduuuude]

Rich – I think we need a thread re-naming function that could be used in case of major thread-jacking.

Or at least a “sub name” that could be listed next to the original title.

The subname here would be “All about guns”

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