$500k and 33years old, when is enough enough?

[briansd1]

[quote=ctr70]A huge part of San Diego is very affordable. But I agree, these areas have a junky, dingy, low end feel. That is one of the interesting aspects of San Diego, it has this great weather, landscape and places like La Jolla…but SOOO much of San Diego are these dingy, dumpy, completely uninspiring places, like all that I listed. But they are very affordable.

There was a person that posted a while back about thinking about moving back to Minneapolis. See a place like MN, even the blue collar neighborhoods have character. They are tree lined streets with interesting older unique homes, grassy lawns, etc… Pleasing to the senses. But the 2nd and 3rd tier neighborhoods in San Diego are just so junky and eyesores. Central El Cajon? Spring Valley? Parts of Vista, Oceanside, etc.. They are just not aesthetically pleasing areas at all.

To me in San Diego you either have these dingy crappy neighborhoods with houses that look like Mississippi sharecropper shacks below $250k, or you have the soulless cookie cutter stuff in North Coutny with strip center shopping and zero uniqueness in the better neighborhoods (Rancho P, RB, Scripps, Eastlake…everywhere!). I think San Diego in general is just very, very un-appealing architecturally. Except for a few small pockets like Bankers Hill, Mission Hills, and maybe Kensington.

I’m personally mixed on San Diego. I’m not one of those people that are “gaa gaa” over San Diego and think it is the greatest place on earth.

Postives:
1. climate (although the lack of seasons has started to bore me terribly)
2. It is a large enough city with a lot to do and has economic diversity and ethnic diversity
3. You have the hilly topography next to ocean which is very cool and unique
4. There is some really nice hiking that is very accessible close to the urban areas of SD
5. The congestion and traffic is not bad here compared to places like Boston, LA, Bay Area, NYC, DC, Seattle, Chicago. It is super easy to get anywhere you need to go in 15-20 minutes, I love that. That is NOT the case in Boston, SF or LA…it can be a HUGE pain to get places.

Negatives:
1. It has a very, very low mentality in general and does not have an intellectual or progressive feel (that say SF, Seattle, Boston, Manhattan have). The values, personal tastes of people here, etc… are tacky and cheesy. It is very mainstream and heavily commercialized. It’s kind of a big beach “cow town”. And I don’t mean that politically (I’m in the center politically, not left or right).
2. As mentioned above it is a very architecturally UN-inspiring place. It has no quaintness or character. Lot’s of eyesore strip centers, cookie cutter stuff or the crappy 1950’s-1970’s neighborhoods. Like Clairmont for example, I think that place is just so ugly. It is a collection of these nasty 1950’s houses and eye sore strip centers. It’s so hard on the eyes and senses! And even PB, it’s just not attractive, there’s a ton of fast food places and crappy 1960’s apartment buildings.
3. It has the beach, but the water is too cold to swim in 12 mos a year
4. You can’t getaway drive to beautiful pristine mountains and skiing (like you can in say SF, Seattle, Boston, Denver). I think Julian is very, very average and even Idywild and Big Bear is just not that great. It’s NOT Vail CO, Lake Tahoe, The Cascades or Vermont. Not even close. In those cities you can have a getaway cabin or 2nd home you can drive to in 3hrs or less in a super pretty, pastoral, pristine mountain setting.
5. There are ZERO natural lakes or beautiful rivers in Southern Cal. I personally love boating in hanging out around tree lined natural lakes and rivers. There is nothing close to that here.
6. It’s fairly surface oriented and fake here, people are really into stupid s**t like the brand of their cars here. And they wash them constantly (LOL). That has been the rap on SoCal for decades, and it is really true. Not quite as bad as places like Orange County, but close.
7. There is a lot of tackiness and cheesiness here (Like the Gaslamp for example). Fine dining for people is some national chain with 27 gigantic big screen TV’s.
8. B/c it’s the desert it lacks trees, lush grass, greenery… It is very brown here. it’s amazing going back to the New England states in the summer, they are so green and lush compared to here.
9. Lack of a sense of community

So what that guy said from Minneapolis who wants to leave really connected with me. I just find my soul just feels really unfulfilled here. There is just something empty about the place. But there are very cool things about too it like the climate, hills, beach. So it’s kind of a love/hate place for me. The lack of culture and eye sore architecture just kind of “grinds” on you after a while.[/quote]

As almost a life long San Diegan (on and off, although I wasn’t born here) I have to agree with much of what you said.

The main problem is that most people don’t go anywhere so they don’t have a frame of reference to compare.

Another thing is that houses in San Diego are badly constructed and not well insulated. That would never work in very cold areas with sub-freezing temperatures.

[an]

[quote=briansd1]
As almost a life long San Diegan (on and off, although I wasn’t born here) I have to agree with much of what you said.

The main problem is that most people don’t go anywhere so they don’t have a frame of reference to compare.

Another thing is that houses in San Diego are badly constructed and not well insulated. That would never work in very cold areas with sub-freezing temperatures.[/quote]
Just because people still live here doesn’t mean they didn’t go anywhere and don’t have a frame of reference. Their priorities/tastes are just different than yours. Just a few example, when I go boarding these days, I rather take a week long vacation instead of weekend trip, so be w/in driving distance isn’t too big of a deal for me anymore (it used to be when I was in college). I rather explore various ski resorts throughout North America before I want to come back. I could careless about any of the houses built before 1980. 99% of them are just ugly to me. I rather go to the beach than the lake. I can go on, but the main reason I’ve been here for 20+ years and have no plan to leave is because SD is the most ideal city for me.

SD houses are constructed for the need of SD environment. Why build a house that can withstand sub-freezing temperatures when we’ll never see sub-freezing temperature. That’s a big waste of money. If you want to beef up your insulation, a few grand can cover that.

[an]

[quote=briansd1]
As almost a life long San Diegan (on and off, although I wasn’t born here) I have to agree with much of what you said.

The main problem is that most people don’t go anywhere so they don’t have a frame of reference to compare.

Another thing is that houses in San Diego are badly constructed and not well insulated. That would never work in very cold areas with sub-freezing temperatures.[/quote]
Just because people still live here doesn’t mean they didn’t go anywhere and don’t have a frame of reference. Their priorities/tastes are just different than yours. Just a few example, when I go boarding these days, I rather take a week long vacation instead of weekend trip, so be w/in driving distance isn’t too big of a deal for me anymore (it used to be when I was in college). I rather explore various ski resorts throughout North America before I want to come back. I could careless about any of the houses built before 1980. 99% of them are just ugly to me. I rather go to the beach than the lake. I can go on, but the main reason I’ve been here for 20+ years and have no plan to leave is because SD is the most ideal city for me.

SD houses are constructed for the need of SD environment. Why build a house that can withstand sub-freezing temperatures when we’ll never see sub-freezing temperature. That’s a big waste of money. If you want to beef up your insulation, a few grand can cover that.

[an]

[quote=briansd1]
As almost a life long San Diegan (on and off, although I wasn’t born here) I have to agree with much of what you said.

The main problem is that most people don’t go anywhere so they don’t have a frame of reference to compare.

Another thing is that houses in San Diego are badly constructed and not well insulated. That would never work in very cold areas with sub-freezing temperatures.[/quote]
Just because people still live here doesn’t mean they didn’t go anywhere and don’t have a frame of reference. Their priorities/tastes are just different than yours. Just a few example, when I go boarding these days, I rather take a week long vacation instead of weekend trip, so be w/in driving distance isn’t too big of a deal for me anymore (it used to be when I was in college). I rather explore various ski resorts throughout North America before I want to come back. I could careless about any of the houses built before 1980. 99% of them are just ugly to me. I rather go to the beach than the lake. I can go on, but the main reason I’ve been here for 20+ years and have no plan to leave is because SD is the most ideal city for me.

SD houses are constructed for the need of SD environment. Why build a house that can withstand sub-freezing temperatures when we’ll never see sub-freezing temperature. That’s a big waste of money. If you want to beef up your insulation, a few grand can cover that.

[an]

[quote=briansd1]
As almost a life long San Diegan (on and off, although I wasn’t born here) I have to agree with much of what you said.

The main problem is that most people don’t go anywhere so they don’t have a frame of reference to compare.

Another thing is that houses in San Diego are badly constructed and not well insulated. That would never work in very cold areas with sub-freezing temperatures.[/quote]
Just because people still live here doesn’t mean they didn’t go anywhere and don’t have a frame of reference. Their priorities/tastes are just different than yours. Just a few example, when I go boarding these days, I rather take a week long vacation instead of weekend trip, so be w/in driving distance isn’t too big of a deal for me anymore (it used to be when I was in college). I rather explore various ski resorts throughout North America before I want to come back. I could careless about any of the houses built before 1980. 99% of them are just ugly to me. I rather go to the beach than the lake. I can go on, but the main reason I’ve been here for 20+ years and have no plan to leave is because SD is the most ideal city for me.

SD houses are constructed for the need of SD environment. Why build a house that can withstand sub-freezing temperatures when we’ll never see sub-freezing temperature. That’s a big waste of money. If you want to beef up your insulation, a few grand can cover that.

[an]

[quote=briansd1]
As almost a life long San Diegan (on and off, although I wasn’t born here) I have to agree with much of what you said.

The main problem is that most people don’t go anywhere so they don’t have a frame of reference to compare.

Another thing is that houses in San Diego are badly constructed and not well insulated. That would never work in very cold areas with sub-freezing temperatures.[/quote]
Just because people still live here doesn’t mean they didn’t go anywhere and don’t have a frame of reference. Their priorities/tastes are just different than yours. Just a few example, when I go boarding these days, I rather take a week long vacation instead of weekend trip, so be w/in driving distance isn’t too big of a deal for me anymore (it used to be when I was in college). I rather explore various ski resorts throughout North America before I want to come back. I could careless about any of the houses built before 1980. 99% of them are just ugly to me. I rather go to the beach than the lake. I can go on, but the main reason I’ve been here for 20+ years and have no plan to leave is because SD is the most ideal city for me.

SD houses are constructed for the need of SD environment. Why build a house that can withstand sub-freezing temperatures when we’ll never see sub-freezing temperature. That’s a big waste of money. If you want to beef up your insulation, a few grand can cover that.

[outtamojo]

AN, is it just me or does it seem like these ” San Diego ain’t Paradise” threads all seem to evolve the same way, with the same characters, the same complaints?

[outtamojo]

AN, is it just me or does it seem like these ” San Diego ain’t Paradise” threads all seem to evolve the same way, with the same characters, the same complaints?

[outtamojo]

AN, is it just me or does it seem like these ” San Diego ain’t Paradise” threads all seem to evolve the same way, with the same characters, the same complaints?

[outtamojo]

AN, is it just me or does it seem like these ” San Diego ain’t Paradise” threads all seem to evolve the same way, with the same characters, the same complaints?

[outtamojo]

AN, is it just me or does it seem like these ” San Diego ain’t Paradise” threads all seem to evolve the same way, with the same characters, the same complaints?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=ctr70]There are a LOT of areas in SD County with SFR’s <$250k. But they are not in the most desirable areas. They are not in areas that most people that live by the beach have probably ever been. You can get a totally rehabbed 3/2 1,200-1,500sf house built between the 1940's to 1970's for about $250k, and a 3/2 fixer for say $210k in these areas. -El Cajon -Santee -Lakeside -Old Chula Vista -Paradise Hills -Lemon Grove -Spring Valley -National City -Encanto -City Heights -SE San Diego -Oceanside -Vista -Escondido -San Ysidro -Many parts of the College area There are all more working class, blue collar areas. If you want to get into a white collar area with the very top schools, yes it is going to be $350,000 on the very, very low end for a fixer and more like $500,000 for a fixed up house.

You can get condo’s pretty much ANYWHERE for $250k or less. Even in places like Carlsbad, Scripps Ranch, Rancho Bernardo, Point Loma, PB, etc… And that is even 3/2 condos![/quote]

Thank you, ctr70. However, I want to add that “white-collar professionals” DO live in all these areas and some of these areas have a preponderance of retired homeowners. Many “blue collar workers” make more $$ than the average white collar worker. And very often, retired homeowners have far more discretionary income than homeowners who are still in the workforce.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 59 SFRs and PUDs for sale in 91910 (Chula Vista –Dtn/North/Hilltop/Terra Nova/RDR) that are priced from $175K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Hilltop High/Chula Vista High attendance areas.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 114 SFRs for sale in 91911 (Chula Vista South – Country Club/Castle Park/Loma Verde) that are priced from $130K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Hilltop High/Chula Vista High/Castle Park High attendance areas.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 23 SFRs for sale in 91913 (Chula Vista – Eastlake Shores/Hills, College Estates, St. Claire) that are priced from $250K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Bonita Vista High/Eastlake High attendance areas.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 34 SFRs/PUDs in 91915 (Chula Vista – Otay Ranch, Eastlake Greens/Woods) that are priced from $230K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Eastlake High/Olympian High attendance area.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 8 SFRs for sale (incl. 2 PUDs) in 91902 (Bonita – Sunnyside) that are priced from $230K to $298K. All six of the SFRs are fixers, one with a cracked slab and another with a severe subsidence problem. All of these properties are within the Bonita Vista High attendance areas and are located 13-18 miles from dtn SD.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 41 SFR’s for sale in 92019 (El Cajon – Granite Hills, Vista Grande, Dehesa) that are priced from $175K to $300K. A small portion of these properties are in the Valhalla HS attendance area.

ctr70’s “very top schools” issue is subjective, depending on your child. Let’s look again at the breakdown of the 2010 API scores for the “coveted” Torrey Pines HS (TPHS) again:

Black: unscored
Hispanic: 680
White: 867
Asian: 949
Filipino: unscored

If your child happens to be “Hispanic,” there are many HS’s serving the above areas where “Hispanics” score better on the API, often MUCH better than TPHS.

For instance:

Hilltop HS (Chula Vista) 759
Castle Park HS (Chula Vista) 758
Eastlake HS (Chula Vista) 782
Bonita Vista HS (Chula Vista) 810
Olympian HS (Chula Vista) 778
Valhalla HS (El Cajon) 759

Other demographics of student scores are higher or a lot higher in these schools.

[quote=doooh]For the $, and school districts, every one of these places are compromises to living out of state. Unless you get to the outskirts of these cities your living in non desirable areas.
East Escondido near san Pasqual is an option, but seriously, you might as well live in LA if San Yesidro is a consideration.
San Diego is not the place it was when my folks raised me here. Lemon Grove, la Mesa and El cajon are obnoxiously priced for the holes they’ve become. They’re not options, yet they were 20 yes ago.[/quote]

Doooh, would you care to tell us what community of San Diego County you grew up in? And, if you still have relatives there, why don’t you want to purchase in the same community you grew up, to be close to family? This is what many young native San Diegans do.

And do you consider ALL of those communities that ctr70 brought up as “inland?”

And why do you think SD County family homes should be priced at sub $100K, on par, with say, some rural or semi-rural areas of the Midwest?

And if you really want to leave SD County, where do you think you could work and raise a family that would afford you and your family a better lifestyle than SD County??

And what does a 680 API score for Hispanics say about a “top” school such as TPHS which has the apparent inability to properly prepare Hispanics to take these required tests? Is it possible that the teachers there might be too busy catering to students of other demographics?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=ctr70]There are a LOT of areas in SD County with SFR’s <$250k. But they are not in the most desirable areas. They are not in areas that most people that live by the beach have probably ever been. You can get a totally rehabbed 3/2 1,200-1,500sf house built between the 1940's to 1970's for about $250k, and a 3/2 fixer for say $210k in these areas. -El Cajon -Santee -Lakeside -Old Chula Vista -Paradise Hills -Lemon Grove -Spring Valley -National City -Encanto -City Heights -SE San Diego -Oceanside -Vista -Escondido -San Ysidro -Many parts of the College area There are all more working class, blue collar areas. If you want to get into a white collar area with the very top schools, yes it is going to be $350,000 on the very, very low end for a fixer and more like $500,000 for a fixed up house.

You can get condo’s pretty much ANYWHERE for $250k or less. Even in places like Carlsbad, Scripps Ranch, Rancho Bernardo, Point Loma, PB, etc… And that is even 3/2 condos![/quote]

Thank you, ctr70. However, I want to add that “white-collar professionals” DO live in all these areas and some of these areas have a preponderance of retired homeowners. Many “blue collar workers” make more $$ than the average white collar worker. And very often, retired homeowners have far more discretionary income than homeowners who are still in the workforce.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 59 SFRs and PUDs for sale in 91910 (Chula Vista –Dtn/North/Hilltop/Terra Nova/RDR) that are priced from $175K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Hilltop High/Chula Vista High attendance areas.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 114 SFRs for sale in 91911 (Chula Vista South – Country Club/Castle Park/Loma Verde) that are priced from $130K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Hilltop High/Chula Vista High/Castle Park High attendance areas.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 23 SFRs for sale in 91913 (Chula Vista – Eastlake Shores/Hills, College Estates, St. Claire) that are priced from $250K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Bonita Vista High/Eastlake High attendance areas.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 34 SFRs/PUDs in 91915 (Chula Vista – Otay Ranch, Eastlake Greens/Woods) that are priced from $230K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Eastlake High/Olympian High attendance area.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 8 SFRs for sale (incl. 2 PUDs) in 91902 (Bonita – Sunnyside) that are priced from $230K to $298K. All six of the SFRs are fixers, one with a cracked slab and another with a severe subsidence problem. All of these properties are within the Bonita Vista High attendance areas and are located 13-18 miles from dtn SD.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 41 SFR’s for sale in 92019 (El Cajon – Granite Hills, Vista Grande, Dehesa) that are priced from $175K to $300K. A small portion of these properties are in the Valhalla HS attendance area.

ctr70’s “very top schools” issue is subjective, depending on your child. Let’s look again at the breakdown of the 2010 API scores for the “coveted” Torrey Pines HS (TPHS) again:

Black: unscored
Hispanic: 680
White: 867
Asian: 949
Filipino: unscored

If your child happens to be “Hispanic,” there are many HS’s serving the above areas where “Hispanics” score better on the API, often MUCH better than TPHS.

For instance:

Hilltop HS (Chula Vista) 759
Castle Park HS (Chula Vista) 758
Eastlake HS (Chula Vista) 782
Bonita Vista HS (Chula Vista) 810
Olympian HS (Chula Vista) 778
Valhalla HS (El Cajon) 759

Other demographics of student scores are higher or a lot higher in these schools.

[quote=doooh]For the $, and school districts, every one of these places are compromises to living out of state. Unless you get to the outskirts of these cities your living in non desirable areas.
East Escondido near san Pasqual is an option, but seriously, you might as well live in LA if San Yesidro is a consideration.
San Diego is not the place it was when my folks raised me here. Lemon Grove, la Mesa and El cajon are obnoxiously priced for the holes they’ve become. They’re not options, yet they were 20 yes ago.[/quote]

Doooh, would you care to tell us what community of San Diego County you grew up in? And, if you still have relatives there, why don’t you want to purchase in the same community you grew up, to be close to family? This is what many young native San Diegans do.

And do you consider ALL of those communities that ctr70 brought up as “inland?”

And why do you think SD County family homes should be priced at sub $100K, on par, with say, some rural or semi-rural areas of the Midwest?

And if you really want to leave SD County, where do you think you could work and raise a family that would afford you and your family a better lifestyle than SD County??

And what does a 680 API score for Hispanics say about a “top” school such as TPHS which has the apparent inability to properly prepare Hispanics to take these required tests? Is it possible that the teachers there might be too busy catering to students of other demographics?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=ctr70]There are a LOT of areas in SD County with SFR’s <$250k. But they are not in the most desirable areas. They are not in areas that most people that live by the beach have probably ever been. You can get a totally rehabbed 3/2 1,200-1,500sf house built between the 1940's to 1970's for about $250k, and a 3/2 fixer for say $210k in these areas. -El Cajon -Santee -Lakeside -Old Chula Vista -Paradise Hills -Lemon Grove -Spring Valley -National City -Encanto -City Heights -SE San Diego -Oceanside -Vista -Escondido -San Ysidro -Many parts of the College area There are all more working class, blue collar areas. If you want to get into a white collar area with the very top schools, yes it is going to be $350,000 on the very, very low end for a fixer and more like $500,000 for a fixed up house.

You can get condo’s pretty much ANYWHERE for $250k or less. Even in places like Carlsbad, Scripps Ranch, Rancho Bernardo, Point Loma, PB, etc… And that is even 3/2 condos![/quote]

Thank you, ctr70. However, I want to add that “white-collar professionals” DO live in all these areas and some of these areas have a preponderance of retired homeowners. Many “blue collar workers” make more $$ than the average white collar worker. And very often, retired homeowners have far more discretionary income than homeowners who are still in the workforce.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 59 SFRs and PUDs for sale in 91910 (Chula Vista –Dtn/North/Hilltop/Terra Nova/RDR) that are priced from $175K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Hilltop High/Chula Vista High attendance areas.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 114 SFRs for sale in 91911 (Chula Vista South – Country Club/Castle Park/Loma Verde) that are priced from $130K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Hilltop High/Chula Vista High/Castle Park High attendance areas.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 23 SFRs for sale in 91913 (Chula Vista – Eastlake Shores/Hills, College Estates, St. Claire) that are priced from $250K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Bonita Vista High/Eastlake High attendance areas.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 34 SFRs/PUDs in 91915 (Chula Vista – Otay Ranch, Eastlake Greens/Woods) that are priced from $230K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Eastlake High/Olympian High attendance area.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 8 SFRs for sale (incl. 2 PUDs) in 91902 (Bonita – Sunnyside) that are priced from $230K to $298K. All six of the SFRs are fixers, one with a cracked slab and another with a severe subsidence problem. All of these properties are within the Bonita Vista High attendance areas and are located 13-18 miles from dtn SD.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 41 SFR’s for sale in 92019 (El Cajon – Granite Hills, Vista Grande, Dehesa) that are priced from $175K to $300K. A small portion of these properties are in the Valhalla HS attendance area.

ctr70’s “very top schools” issue is subjective, depending on your child. Let’s look again at the breakdown of the 2010 API scores for the “coveted” Torrey Pines HS (TPHS) again:

Black: unscored
Hispanic: 680
White: 867
Asian: 949
Filipino: unscored

If your child happens to be “Hispanic,” there are many HS’s serving the above areas where “Hispanics” score better on the API, often MUCH better than TPHS.

For instance:

Hilltop HS (Chula Vista) 759
Castle Park HS (Chula Vista) 758
Eastlake HS (Chula Vista) 782
Bonita Vista HS (Chula Vista) 810
Olympian HS (Chula Vista) 778
Valhalla HS (El Cajon) 759

Other demographics of student scores are higher or a lot higher in these schools.

[quote=doooh]For the $, and school districts, every one of these places are compromises to living out of state. Unless you get to the outskirts of these cities your living in non desirable areas.
East Escondido near san Pasqual is an option, but seriously, you might as well live in LA if San Yesidro is a consideration.
San Diego is not the place it was when my folks raised me here. Lemon Grove, la Mesa and El cajon are obnoxiously priced for the holes they’ve become. They’re not options, yet they were 20 yes ago.[/quote]

Doooh, would you care to tell us what community of San Diego County you grew up in? And, if you still have relatives there, why don’t you want to purchase in the same community you grew up, to be close to family? This is what many young native San Diegans do.

And do you consider ALL of those communities that ctr70 brought up as “inland?”

And why do you think SD County family homes should be priced at sub $100K, on par, with say, some rural or semi-rural areas of the Midwest?

And if you really want to leave SD County, where do you think you could work and raise a family that would afford you and your family a better lifestyle than SD County??

And what does a 680 API score for Hispanics say about a “top” school such as TPHS which has the apparent inability to properly prepare Hispanics to take these required tests? Is it possible that the teachers there might be too busy catering to students of other demographics?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=ctr70]There are a LOT of areas in SD County with SFR’s <$250k. But they are not in the most desirable areas. They are not in areas that most people that live by the beach have probably ever been. You can get a totally rehabbed 3/2 1,200-1,500sf house built between the 1940's to 1970's for about $250k, and a 3/2 fixer for say $210k in these areas. -El Cajon -Santee -Lakeside -Old Chula Vista -Paradise Hills -Lemon Grove -Spring Valley -National City -Encanto -City Heights -SE San Diego -Oceanside -Vista -Escondido -San Ysidro -Many parts of the College area There are all more working class, blue collar areas. If you want to get into a white collar area with the very top schools, yes it is going to be $350,000 on the very, very low end for a fixer and more like $500,000 for a fixed up house.

You can get condo’s pretty much ANYWHERE for $250k or less. Even in places like Carlsbad, Scripps Ranch, Rancho Bernardo, Point Loma, PB, etc… And that is even 3/2 condos![/quote]

Thank you, ctr70. However, I want to add that “white-collar professionals” DO live in all these areas and some of these areas have a preponderance of retired homeowners. Many “blue collar workers” make more $$ than the average white collar worker. And very often, retired homeowners have far more discretionary income than homeowners who are still in the workforce.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 59 SFRs and PUDs for sale in 91910 (Chula Vista –Dtn/North/Hilltop/Terra Nova/RDR) that are priced from $175K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Hilltop High/Chula Vista High attendance areas.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 114 SFRs for sale in 91911 (Chula Vista South – Country Club/Castle Park/Loma Verde) that are priced from $130K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Hilltop High/Chula Vista High/Castle Park High attendance areas.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 23 SFRs for sale in 91913 (Chula Vista – Eastlake Shores/Hills, College Estates, St. Claire) that are priced from $250K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Bonita Vista High/Eastlake High attendance areas.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 34 SFRs/PUDs in 91915 (Chula Vista – Otay Ranch, Eastlake Greens/Woods) that are priced from $230K to $300K. All of these properties are within the Eastlake High/Olympian High attendance area.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 8 SFRs for sale (incl. 2 PUDs) in 91902 (Bonita – Sunnyside) that are priced from $230K to $298K. All six of the SFRs are fixers, one with a cracked slab and another with a severe subsidence problem. All of these properties are within the Bonita Vista High attendance areas and are located 13-18 miles from dtn SD.

Acc to SDLookup, there currently appear to be 41 SFR’s for sale in 92019 (El Cajon – Granite Hills, Vista Grande, Dehesa) that are priced from $175K to $300K. A small portion of these properties are in the Valhalla HS attendance area.

ctr70’s “very top schools” issue is subjective, depending on your child. Let’s look again at the breakdown of the 2010 API scores for the “coveted” Torrey Pines HS (TPHS) again:

Black: unscored
Hispanic: 680
White: 867
Asian: 949
Filipino: unscored

If your child happens to be “Hispanic,” there are many HS’s serving the above areas where “Hispanics” score better on the API, often MUCH better than TPHS.

For instance:

Hilltop HS (Chula Vista) 759
Castle Park HS (Chula Vista) 758
Eastlake HS (Chula Vista) 782
Bonita Vista HS (Chula Vista) 810
Olympian HS (Chula Vista) 778
Valhalla HS (El Cajon) 759

Other demographics of student scores are higher or a lot higher in these schools.

[quote=doooh]For the $, and school districts, every one of these places are compromises to living out of state. Unless you get to the outskirts of these cities your living in non desirable areas.
East Escondido near san Pasqual is an option, but seriously, you might as well live in LA if San Yesidro is a consideration.
San Diego is not the place it was when my folks raised me here. Lemon Grove, la Mesa and El cajon are obnoxiously priced for the holes they’ve become. They’re not options, yet they were 20 yes ago.[/quote]

Doooh, would you care to tell us what community of San Diego County you grew up in? And, if you still have relatives there, why don’t you want to purchase in the same community you grew up, to be close to family? This is what many young native San Diegans do.

And do you consider ALL of those communities that ctr70 brought up as “inland?”

And why do you think SD County family homes should be priced at sub $100K, on par, with say, some rural or semi-rural areas of the Midwest?

And if you really want to leave SD County, where do you think you could work and raise a family that would afford you and your family a better lifestyle than SD County??

And what does a 680 API score for Hispanics say about a “top” school such as TPHS which has the apparent inability to properly prepare Hispanics to take these required tests? Is it possible that the teachers there might be too busy catering to students of other demographics?

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