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January 31, 2009 at 10:27 AM #339835January 31, 2009 at 10:54 AM #339297NotCrankyParticipant
Lucky,
Is your attic ventilated? I have way over ventilated my attic with dormer vents .I read in a construction trade magazine that they are much more effective than the turbine type. It’s over insulated too. The house has the sensation of being under a shady tree on hot days and keep added heat in on cold ones. Single storey with large overhangs helps a lot in California. As you say dual pane windows are incredible for comfort and also noise control.January 31, 2009 at 10:54 AM #339623NotCrankyParticipantLucky,
Is your attic ventilated? I have way over ventilated my attic with dormer vents .I read in a construction trade magazine that they are much more effective than the turbine type. It’s over insulated too. The house has the sensation of being under a shady tree on hot days and keep added heat in on cold ones. Single storey with large overhangs helps a lot in California. As you say dual pane windows are incredible for comfort and also noise control.January 31, 2009 at 10:54 AM #339719NotCrankyParticipantLucky,
Is your attic ventilated? I have way over ventilated my attic with dormer vents .I read in a construction trade magazine that they are much more effective than the turbine type. It’s over insulated too. The house has the sensation of being under a shady tree on hot days and keep added heat in on cold ones. Single storey with large overhangs helps a lot in California. As you say dual pane windows are incredible for comfort and also noise control.January 31, 2009 at 10:54 AM #339746NotCrankyParticipantLucky,
Is your attic ventilated? I have way over ventilated my attic with dormer vents .I read in a construction trade magazine that they are much more effective than the turbine type. It’s over insulated too. The house has the sensation of being under a shady tree on hot days and keep added heat in on cold ones. Single storey with large overhangs helps a lot in California. As you say dual pane windows are incredible for comfort and also noise control.January 31, 2009 at 10:54 AM #339840NotCrankyParticipantLucky,
Is your attic ventilated? I have way over ventilated my attic with dormer vents .I read in a construction trade magazine that they are much more effective than the turbine type. It’s over insulated too. The house has the sensation of being under a shady tree on hot days and keep added heat in on cold ones. Single storey with large overhangs helps a lot in California. As you say dual pane windows are incredible for comfort and also noise control.January 31, 2009 at 11:16 AM #339302poway_sellerParticipantcheck NY Times front page today, “utilities turn their customers green, with envy”. Interesting article. I would get an unhappy face.
Re: solar paneling. Our home does not face ideal south. Also current panels are very old and perhaps in coming years more efficient grade panels will be made available that require less square footage.
January 31, 2009 at 11:16 AM #339628poway_sellerParticipantcheck NY Times front page today, “utilities turn their customers green, with envy”. Interesting article. I would get an unhappy face.
Re: solar paneling. Our home does not face ideal south. Also current panels are very old and perhaps in coming years more efficient grade panels will be made available that require less square footage.
January 31, 2009 at 11:16 AM #339724poway_sellerParticipantcheck NY Times front page today, “utilities turn their customers green, with envy”. Interesting article. I would get an unhappy face.
Re: solar paneling. Our home does not face ideal south. Also current panels are very old and perhaps in coming years more efficient grade panels will be made available that require less square footage.
January 31, 2009 at 11:16 AM #339751poway_sellerParticipantcheck NY Times front page today, “utilities turn their customers green, with envy”. Interesting article. I would get an unhappy face.
Re: solar paneling. Our home does not face ideal south. Also current panels are very old and perhaps in coming years more efficient grade panels will be made available that require less square footage.
January 31, 2009 at 11:16 AM #339845poway_sellerParticipantcheck NY Times front page today, “utilities turn their customers green, with envy”. Interesting article. I would get an unhappy face.
Re: solar paneling. Our home does not face ideal south. Also current panels are very old and perhaps in coming years more efficient grade panels will be made available that require less square footage.
January 31, 2009 at 12:05 PM #339307LuckyInOCParticipantAll attics are ventilated. Good insulation (R-30+) above the ceiling makes venting the attic much better and less of an energy hit. Good ventilation in the attic also prolongs your roof from overheating, especially for standard composition roofs.
Unfortunately, my house is 90% cathedral ceilings: upstairs Master Bed & Bath, (2) Bedrooms, Bonus Room. I have a small attic above the hall way and one bathroom upstairs. I have to calculate the free area of the vents see how much fan (CFM) I can use. It may not be enough to make a big enough difference. But you must have good outside air quality to use a whole house fan and little or no allergies.
I am thinking to put a drop insulated ceiling the 2 bedrooms for better comfort and less heating in the rooms. 75% of the room capacity is above 8 ft.
For us, the dual-pane windows was more for:
1. Air (Dirt) Infiltration during Santa Ana’s.
2. Temperature Comfort
3. Building Aesthetics
4. Noise Control
5. UV Control
6. Energy SavingsOur payback for our windows is something like 11 years and we paid only $10k for the windows, much less than most would have. We had quotes up to $30-40k. Last year electric bill for winter (3 mos) is $100 per month. $50 in summer with fans & no AC. Our gas averages about $40 per month. We might be saving $25 per month due to the windows, probably less.
Invest $10-20k SCE, SDG&E, &/or Sempra and offset your energy bills from the income, inflation proof.
Its kind of like using a Discover card, pay yourself.Lucky In OC
January 31, 2009 at 12:05 PM #339634LuckyInOCParticipantAll attics are ventilated. Good insulation (R-30+) above the ceiling makes venting the attic much better and less of an energy hit. Good ventilation in the attic also prolongs your roof from overheating, especially for standard composition roofs.
Unfortunately, my house is 90% cathedral ceilings: upstairs Master Bed & Bath, (2) Bedrooms, Bonus Room. I have a small attic above the hall way and one bathroom upstairs. I have to calculate the free area of the vents see how much fan (CFM) I can use. It may not be enough to make a big enough difference. But you must have good outside air quality to use a whole house fan and little or no allergies.
I am thinking to put a drop insulated ceiling the 2 bedrooms for better comfort and less heating in the rooms. 75% of the room capacity is above 8 ft.
For us, the dual-pane windows was more for:
1. Air (Dirt) Infiltration during Santa Ana’s.
2. Temperature Comfort
3. Building Aesthetics
4. Noise Control
5. UV Control
6. Energy SavingsOur payback for our windows is something like 11 years and we paid only $10k for the windows, much less than most would have. We had quotes up to $30-40k. Last year electric bill for winter (3 mos) is $100 per month. $50 in summer with fans & no AC. Our gas averages about $40 per month. We might be saving $25 per month due to the windows, probably less.
Invest $10-20k SCE, SDG&E, &/or Sempra and offset your energy bills from the income, inflation proof.
Its kind of like using a Discover card, pay yourself.Lucky In OC
January 31, 2009 at 12:05 PM #339729LuckyInOCParticipantAll attics are ventilated. Good insulation (R-30+) above the ceiling makes venting the attic much better and less of an energy hit. Good ventilation in the attic also prolongs your roof from overheating, especially for standard composition roofs.
Unfortunately, my house is 90% cathedral ceilings: upstairs Master Bed & Bath, (2) Bedrooms, Bonus Room. I have a small attic above the hall way and one bathroom upstairs. I have to calculate the free area of the vents see how much fan (CFM) I can use. It may not be enough to make a big enough difference. But you must have good outside air quality to use a whole house fan and little or no allergies.
I am thinking to put a drop insulated ceiling the 2 bedrooms for better comfort and less heating in the rooms. 75% of the room capacity is above 8 ft.
For us, the dual-pane windows was more for:
1. Air (Dirt) Infiltration during Santa Ana’s.
2. Temperature Comfort
3. Building Aesthetics
4. Noise Control
5. UV Control
6. Energy SavingsOur payback for our windows is something like 11 years and we paid only $10k for the windows, much less than most would have. We had quotes up to $30-40k. Last year electric bill for winter (3 mos) is $100 per month. $50 in summer with fans & no AC. Our gas averages about $40 per month. We might be saving $25 per month due to the windows, probably less.
Invest $10-20k SCE, SDG&E, &/or Sempra and offset your energy bills from the income, inflation proof.
Its kind of like using a Discover card, pay yourself.Lucky In OC
January 31, 2009 at 12:05 PM #339756LuckyInOCParticipantAll attics are ventilated. Good insulation (R-30+) above the ceiling makes venting the attic much better and less of an energy hit. Good ventilation in the attic also prolongs your roof from overheating, especially for standard composition roofs.
Unfortunately, my house is 90% cathedral ceilings: upstairs Master Bed & Bath, (2) Bedrooms, Bonus Room. I have a small attic above the hall way and one bathroom upstairs. I have to calculate the free area of the vents see how much fan (CFM) I can use. It may not be enough to make a big enough difference. But you must have good outside air quality to use a whole house fan and little or no allergies.
I am thinking to put a drop insulated ceiling the 2 bedrooms for better comfort and less heating in the rooms. 75% of the room capacity is above 8 ft.
For us, the dual-pane windows was more for:
1. Air (Dirt) Infiltration during Santa Ana’s.
2. Temperature Comfort
3. Building Aesthetics
4. Noise Control
5. UV Control
6. Energy SavingsOur payback for our windows is something like 11 years and we paid only $10k for the windows, much less than most would have. We had quotes up to $30-40k. Last year electric bill for winter (3 mos) is $100 per month. $50 in summer with fans & no AC. Our gas averages about $40 per month. We might be saving $25 per month due to the windows, probably less.
Invest $10-20k SCE, SDG&E, &/or Sempra and offset your energy bills from the income, inflation proof.
Its kind of like using a Discover card, pay yourself.Lucky In OC
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