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February 28, 2008 at 1:44 PM #162429February 28, 2008 at 1:46 PM #162037ArrayaParticipant
“There are several technologies that are very close”
Close is not the issue. The issue is scaleble.
Hydrogen is an energy carrier, not an energy source. It is that you need to generate the energy to create the hydrogen somehow (which is problematic if energy becomes scarcer) and that this process is wasteful as there are losses at each stage of the energy conversion process.
The car of the future is a railroad car and a bike at the other end. Except for maybe 1% of the population.
February 28, 2008 at 1:46 PM #162331ArrayaParticipant“There are several technologies that are very close”
Close is not the issue. The issue is scaleble.
Hydrogen is an energy carrier, not an energy source. It is that you need to generate the energy to create the hydrogen somehow (which is problematic if energy becomes scarcer) and that this process is wasteful as there are losses at each stage of the energy conversion process.
The car of the future is a railroad car and a bike at the other end. Except for maybe 1% of the population.
February 28, 2008 at 1:46 PM #162348ArrayaParticipant“There are several technologies that are very close”
Close is not the issue. The issue is scaleble.
Hydrogen is an energy carrier, not an energy source. It is that you need to generate the energy to create the hydrogen somehow (which is problematic if energy becomes scarcer) and that this process is wasteful as there are losses at each stage of the energy conversion process.
The car of the future is a railroad car and a bike at the other end. Except for maybe 1% of the population.
February 28, 2008 at 1:46 PM #162365ArrayaParticipant“There are several technologies that are very close”
Close is not the issue. The issue is scaleble.
Hydrogen is an energy carrier, not an energy source. It is that you need to generate the energy to create the hydrogen somehow (which is problematic if energy becomes scarcer) and that this process is wasteful as there are losses at each stage of the energy conversion process.
The car of the future is a railroad car and a bike at the other end. Except for maybe 1% of the population.
February 28, 2008 at 1:46 PM #162434ArrayaParticipant“There are several technologies that are very close”
Close is not the issue. The issue is scaleble.
Hydrogen is an energy carrier, not an energy source. It is that you need to generate the energy to create the hydrogen somehow (which is problematic if energy becomes scarcer) and that this process is wasteful as there are losses at each stage of the energy conversion process.
The car of the future is a railroad car and a bike at the other end. Except for maybe 1% of the population.
February 28, 2008 at 1:59 PM #162043DWCAPParticipantThere is a speculative bubble in oil right now and it will continue for a while. What little change taxes may have had on the price of oil are easily overshadowed by this bubble. Supplies are higher, demand is down and prices are spiking? I dont mean at the pump where switches from winter to summer blends may have a few % influence, I mean the wall street market where oil is priced.
The companies will scream bloody murder over it and Bush will make retarded predictions about it that are scary but he is so far behind the curve I really question how he got an MBA. But in the end the dust will clear, and nothing will have changed cept the Federal gov will just spend another 14billion and the oil companies will keep going on making record profits until this bubble goes pop.It kinda seems that the bubbles are going more and more to the markets that have very steep demand curves. Huge swings in prices affect demand for gas very little. Our population growth easly outpaces this change. It started in Tech stocks which have very gradual demand curves, they are not necessities. Then to housing, which is much steeper but has alternatives (rent, move, downsize), now to oil which has very few viable alternatives right now. In the long run itll be good because itll make alternatives viable, but it hurts now. The next ones are in Food and healthcare, which have no alternatives. Corn and wheat are the base of modern societies and prayer sessions are not viable alternatives to a regular checkup.
February 28, 2008 at 1:59 PM #162335DWCAPParticipantThere is a speculative bubble in oil right now and it will continue for a while. What little change taxes may have had on the price of oil are easily overshadowed by this bubble. Supplies are higher, demand is down and prices are spiking? I dont mean at the pump where switches from winter to summer blends may have a few % influence, I mean the wall street market where oil is priced.
The companies will scream bloody murder over it and Bush will make retarded predictions about it that are scary but he is so far behind the curve I really question how he got an MBA. But in the end the dust will clear, and nothing will have changed cept the Federal gov will just spend another 14billion and the oil companies will keep going on making record profits until this bubble goes pop.It kinda seems that the bubbles are going more and more to the markets that have very steep demand curves. Huge swings in prices affect demand for gas very little. Our population growth easly outpaces this change. It started in Tech stocks which have very gradual demand curves, they are not necessities. Then to housing, which is much steeper but has alternatives (rent, move, downsize), now to oil which has very few viable alternatives right now. In the long run itll be good because itll make alternatives viable, but it hurts now. The next ones are in Food and healthcare, which have no alternatives. Corn and wheat are the base of modern societies and prayer sessions are not viable alternatives to a regular checkup.
February 28, 2008 at 1:59 PM #162353DWCAPParticipantThere is a speculative bubble in oil right now and it will continue for a while. What little change taxes may have had on the price of oil are easily overshadowed by this bubble. Supplies are higher, demand is down and prices are spiking? I dont mean at the pump where switches from winter to summer blends may have a few % influence, I mean the wall street market where oil is priced.
The companies will scream bloody murder over it and Bush will make retarded predictions about it that are scary but he is so far behind the curve I really question how he got an MBA. But in the end the dust will clear, and nothing will have changed cept the Federal gov will just spend another 14billion and the oil companies will keep going on making record profits until this bubble goes pop.It kinda seems that the bubbles are going more and more to the markets that have very steep demand curves. Huge swings in prices affect demand for gas very little. Our population growth easly outpaces this change. It started in Tech stocks which have very gradual demand curves, they are not necessities. Then to housing, which is much steeper but has alternatives (rent, move, downsize), now to oil which has very few viable alternatives right now. In the long run itll be good because itll make alternatives viable, but it hurts now. The next ones are in Food and healthcare, which have no alternatives. Corn and wheat are the base of modern societies and prayer sessions are not viable alternatives to a regular checkup.
February 28, 2008 at 1:59 PM #162370DWCAPParticipantThere is a speculative bubble in oil right now and it will continue for a while. What little change taxes may have had on the price of oil are easily overshadowed by this bubble. Supplies are higher, demand is down and prices are spiking? I dont mean at the pump where switches from winter to summer blends may have a few % influence, I mean the wall street market where oil is priced.
The companies will scream bloody murder over it and Bush will make retarded predictions about it that are scary but he is so far behind the curve I really question how he got an MBA. But in the end the dust will clear, and nothing will have changed cept the Federal gov will just spend another 14billion and the oil companies will keep going on making record profits until this bubble goes pop.It kinda seems that the bubbles are going more and more to the markets that have very steep demand curves. Huge swings in prices affect demand for gas very little. Our population growth easly outpaces this change. It started in Tech stocks which have very gradual demand curves, they are not necessities. Then to housing, which is much steeper but has alternatives (rent, move, downsize), now to oil which has very few viable alternatives right now. In the long run itll be good because itll make alternatives viable, but it hurts now. The next ones are in Food and healthcare, which have no alternatives. Corn and wheat are the base of modern societies and prayer sessions are not viable alternatives to a regular checkup.
February 28, 2008 at 1:59 PM #162439DWCAPParticipantThere is a speculative bubble in oil right now and it will continue for a while. What little change taxes may have had on the price of oil are easily overshadowed by this bubble. Supplies are higher, demand is down and prices are spiking? I dont mean at the pump where switches from winter to summer blends may have a few % influence, I mean the wall street market where oil is priced.
The companies will scream bloody murder over it and Bush will make retarded predictions about it that are scary but he is so far behind the curve I really question how he got an MBA. But in the end the dust will clear, and nothing will have changed cept the Federal gov will just spend another 14billion and the oil companies will keep going on making record profits until this bubble goes pop.It kinda seems that the bubbles are going more and more to the markets that have very steep demand curves. Huge swings in prices affect demand for gas very little. Our population growth easly outpaces this change. It started in Tech stocks which have very gradual demand curves, they are not necessities. Then to housing, which is much steeper but has alternatives (rent, move, downsize), now to oil which has very few viable alternatives right now. In the long run itll be good because itll make alternatives viable, but it hurts now. The next ones are in Food and healthcare, which have no alternatives. Corn and wheat are the base of modern societies and prayer sessions are not viable alternatives to a regular checkup.
February 28, 2008 at 2:40 PM #162057ArrayaParticipantThere is a speculative bubble in oil right now and it will continue for a while. What little change taxes may have had on the price of oil are easily overshadowed by this bubble
Bubble would indicate a disconnect from fundamentals which could not be further from the truth.
If anything oil is way underpriced.
Also RE: Lithium, it is also a finite resource.
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/01/30/beyond-peak-oil-are-we-facing-peak-lithium/
February 28, 2008 at 2:40 PM #162351ArrayaParticipantThere is a speculative bubble in oil right now and it will continue for a while. What little change taxes may have had on the price of oil are easily overshadowed by this bubble
Bubble would indicate a disconnect from fundamentals which could not be further from the truth.
If anything oil is way underpriced.
Also RE: Lithium, it is also a finite resource.
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/01/30/beyond-peak-oil-are-we-facing-peak-lithium/
February 28, 2008 at 2:40 PM #162368ArrayaParticipantThere is a speculative bubble in oil right now and it will continue for a while. What little change taxes may have had on the price of oil are easily overshadowed by this bubble
Bubble would indicate a disconnect from fundamentals which could not be further from the truth.
If anything oil is way underpriced.
Also RE: Lithium, it is also a finite resource.
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/01/30/beyond-peak-oil-are-we-facing-peak-lithium/
February 28, 2008 at 2:40 PM #162385ArrayaParticipantThere is a speculative bubble in oil right now and it will continue for a while. What little change taxes may have had on the price of oil are easily overshadowed by this bubble
Bubble would indicate a disconnect from fundamentals which could not be further from the truth.
If anything oil is way underpriced.
Also RE: Lithium, it is also a finite resource.
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/01/30/beyond-peak-oil-are-we-facing-peak-lithium/
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