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December 13, 2007 at 10:44 AM #116216December 13, 2007 at 11:24 AM #116078bigmoneysalsaParticipant
Good stuff FSD, whybuy. So it seems like the last bottom was around 4.6 * median income. Not affordable by conservative measures, but way better than anything we’ve seen in a while.
Is there any good reason to think we won’t get down to at least 5 * income at the next bottom? I don’t see any.
sdrealtor, don’t get me wrong I agree with your overarching point that prices aren’t determined by incomes. SD is an expensive place to buy, but it’s also an expensive place to rent. Ultimately its the PE ratio that shows how out of whack prices are. I wish people would focus more on that than on incomes.
December 13, 2007 at 11:24 AM #116209bigmoneysalsaParticipantGood stuff FSD, whybuy. So it seems like the last bottom was around 4.6 * median income. Not affordable by conservative measures, but way better than anything we’ve seen in a while.
Is there any good reason to think we won’t get down to at least 5 * income at the next bottom? I don’t see any.
sdrealtor, don’t get me wrong I agree with your overarching point that prices aren’t determined by incomes. SD is an expensive place to buy, but it’s also an expensive place to rent. Ultimately its the PE ratio that shows how out of whack prices are. I wish people would focus more on that than on incomes.
December 13, 2007 at 11:24 AM #116242bigmoneysalsaParticipantGood stuff FSD, whybuy. So it seems like the last bottom was around 4.6 * median income. Not affordable by conservative measures, but way better than anything we’ve seen in a while.
Is there any good reason to think we won’t get down to at least 5 * income at the next bottom? I don’t see any.
sdrealtor, don’t get me wrong I agree with your overarching point that prices aren’t determined by incomes. SD is an expensive place to buy, but it’s also an expensive place to rent. Ultimately its the PE ratio that shows how out of whack prices are. I wish people would focus more on that than on incomes.
December 13, 2007 at 11:24 AM #116243bigmoneysalsaParticipantGood stuff FSD, whybuy. So it seems like the last bottom was around 4.6 * median income. Not affordable by conservative measures, but way better than anything we’ve seen in a while.
Is there any good reason to think we won’t get down to at least 5 * income at the next bottom? I don’t see any.
sdrealtor, don’t get me wrong I agree with your overarching point that prices aren’t determined by incomes. SD is an expensive place to buy, but it’s also an expensive place to rent. Ultimately its the PE ratio that shows how out of whack prices are. I wish people would focus more on that than on incomes.
December 13, 2007 at 11:24 AM #116286bigmoneysalsaParticipantGood stuff FSD, whybuy. So it seems like the last bottom was around 4.6 * median income. Not affordable by conservative measures, but way better than anything we’ve seen in a while.
Is there any good reason to think we won’t get down to at least 5 * income at the next bottom? I don’t see any.
sdrealtor, don’t get me wrong I agree with your overarching point that prices aren’t determined by incomes. SD is an expensive place to buy, but it’s also an expensive place to rent. Ultimately its the PE ratio that shows how out of whack prices are. I wish people would focus more on that than on incomes.
December 13, 2007 at 11:24 AM #116287bigmoneysalsaParticipantGood stuff FSD, whybuy. So it seems like the last bottom was around 4.6 * median income. Not affordable by conservative measures, but way better than anything we’ve seen in a while.
Is there any good reason to think we won’t get down to at least 5 * income at the next bottom? I don’t see any.
sdrealtor, don’t get me wrong I agree with your overarching point that prices aren’t determined by incomes. SD is an expensive place to buy, but it’s also an expensive place to rent. Ultimately its the PE ratio that shows how out of whack prices are. I wish people would focus more on that than on incomes.
December 13, 2007 at 11:24 AM #116299bigmoneysalsaParticipantGood stuff FSD, whybuy. So it seems like the last bottom was around 4.6 * median income. Not affordable by conservative measures, but way better than anything we’ve seen in a while.
Is there any good reason to think we won’t get down to at least 5 * income at the next bottom? I don’t see any.
sdrealtor, don’t get me wrong I agree with your overarching point that prices aren’t determined by incomes. SD is an expensive place to buy, but it’s also an expensive place to rent. Ultimately its the PE ratio that shows how out of whack prices are. I wish people would focus more on that than on incomes.
December 13, 2007 at 11:44 AM #116125(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantbigmoneysalsa –
I also like comparing ownership carrying costs to rent as the best metric.
I think 5x median family income would put us around 350-400K for the median house price.
That’s also consistent with rent/buy equilibrium for a lot of places in San Diego.
December 13, 2007 at 11:44 AM #116255(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantbigmoneysalsa –
I also like comparing ownership carrying costs to rent as the best metric.
I think 5x median family income would put us around 350-400K for the median house price.
That’s also consistent with rent/buy equilibrium for a lot of places in San Diego.
December 13, 2007 at 11:44 AM #116288(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantbigmoneysalsa –
I also like comparing ownership carrying costs to rent as the best metric.
I think 5x median family income would put us around 350-400K for the median house price.
That’s also consistent with rent/buy equilibrium for a lot of places in San Diego.
December 13, 2007 at 11:44 AM #116331(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantbigmoneysalsa –
I also like comparing ownership carrying costs to rent as the best metric.
I think 5x median family income would put us around 350-400K for the median house price.
That’s also consistent with rent/buy equilibrium for a lot of places in San Diego.
December 13, 2007 at 11:44 AM #116343(former)FormerSanDieganParticipantbigmoneysalsa –
I also like comparing ownership carrying costs to rent as the best metric.
I think 5x median family income would put us around 350-400K for the median house price.
That’s also consistent with rent/buy equilibrium for a lot of places in San Diego.
December 13, 2007 at 11:45 AM #116130sdrealtorParticipantBMS,
I agree only entered the fray to debunk the myth that median income HH’s should be able to buy the median priced home and that prices MUST return to that level.December 13, 2007 at 11:45 AM #116260sdrealtorParticipantBMS,
I agree only entered the fray to debunk the myth that median income HH’s should be able to buy the median priced home and that prices MUST return to that level. -
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