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February 19, 2013 at 6:16 AM #20536February 19, 2013 at 8:27 AM #759720no_such_realityParticipant
Number eight should be:
8. You’re overweight and you have bad habits. Nothing destroys and prevents wealth like excess weight. Smoking, drinking, and gambling run a solid second. The correlation between weight and bad eating habits that are ironically, quite expensive is fairly strong. Excess weight also damages your earning power, promotions and eventually, leads to catastrophic illnesses that will cripple your earnings, destroy your life and drain your wealth.
February 19, 2013 at 8:33 AM #759722UCGalParticipant[quote=no_such_reality]Number eight should be:
8. You’re overweight and you have bad habits. Nothing destroys and prevents wealth like excess weight. Smoking, drinking, and gambling run a solid second. The correlation between weight and bad eating habits that are ironically, quite expensive is fairly strong. Excess weight also damages your earning power, promotions and eventually, leads to catastrophic illnesses that will cripple your earnings, destroy your life and drain your wealth.[/quote]
This fatty disagrees. π
I’m on track for early retirement and a paid off house. And I’m fat.February 19, 2013 at 8:33 AM #759723barnaby33Participant9. You are blissfully unaware of how wealthy you are because you’ve never spent time where people have truly lost hope. Your passport, assuming you have one has no stamps and you have no perspective.
February 19, 2013 at 8:42 AM #759724no_such_realityParticipant[quote=UCGal][quote=no_such_reality]Number eight should be:
8. You’re overweight and you have bad habits. Nothing destroys and prevents wealth like excess weight. Smoking, drinking, and gambling run a solid second. The correlation between weight and bad eating habits that are ironically, quite expensive is fairly strong. Excess weight also damages your earning power, promotions and eventually, leads to catastrophic illnesses that will cripple your earnings, destroy your life and drain your wealth.[/quote]
This fatty disagrees. π
I’m on track for early retirement and a paid off house. And I’m fat.[/quote]Well, this fatty is doing fine too, but you’re still wrong. Give it time, the weight (not the 5-10 lb kind), will get you. I’m talking the 40% over 40 that are obese and gaining. I’m 100% confident that if I don’t win my battle of the bulge, it will kill me and destroy my finances.
February 19, 2013 at 8:46 AM #759725nlaParticipant[quote=barnaby33]9. You are blissfully unaware of how wealthy you are because you’ve never spent time where people have truly lost hope. Your passport, assuming you have one has no stamps and you have no perspective.[/quote]
What passport? Oh wait, you don’t have a passport.
February 19, 2013 at 9:24 AM #759742The-ShovelerParticipantKeeping healthy saves a lot; usually you don’t end up spending a lot of time in the hospital,
But I have noticed they usually don’t live that much longer than the out of shape types, they just tend not to have long illnesses, usually they just fall over dead one day.
February 19, 2013 at 9:30 AM #759739bearishgurlParticipant2 and 4 don’t make sense together. If one is “financially afraid” and wants to learn about how to invest their money, they would do well to use “qualified and vetted” professionals to help them invest properly. It’s not a sin to not know but it’s probably a sin to do nothing and thus make nothing due to fear (assuming growing your nest egg is important to you).
It also leaves out a few crucial “life events” which happen to everyone, at one time or another:
(1) death of a “breadwinner” spouse who could not get life insurance or could not get very much life insurance;
(2) having a “pre-existing condition” and thus be unable to secure an individual healthplan without being gouged;
(3) divorce, no matter who sued whom;
(4) having a child with special needs or one who is severely disabled from birth;
(5) having to support grandchildren into your old age due to their parent(s) being incompetent, indigent, incarcerated, addicted, critically ill or a combination of these factors exist;
(6) having an immediate family member who gets into a terrible accident and the other party at fault did not have insurance and the injured party’s UI/UIM coverage maxes out;
(7) having a family member get severely injured on the job and their employer’s worker’s comp coverage was insufficient to pay the lifetime medical bills of the injured worker;
(8) having a spouse who has a secret addiction and spends or gambles your assets away before you realize what happened;
(9) having a spouse who secretly converts joint-account proceeds to themselves or closes joint accounts and then can’t or refuses settle up with you when confronted;
(10) and, having an adult child who needs legal help and/or getting bailed out of jail, help obtaining necessary rehab for an addiction or help getting a divorce and/or child custody.
Believe it or not, a CA divorce judge isn’t going to give one whit about the damages one party suffered because 8 and/or 9 happened to them. This is a “community property” state and you are on your own. You should have left them sooner :-0
I could go on. There are SO MANY VARIABLES in life that if one does everything right and even keeps constant tabs on their finances, even just 1-3 of these events happening to a “millionaire” in their lifetime could wipe them out.
The article is a “pie-in-the-sky,” pollyanna, trite explanation for why people who “should be rich” are NOT rich.
February 19, 2013 at 9:37 AM #759746anParticipantBG, 2 & 4 makes total sense together. If you’re too afraid then you’ll be poor. But your solution is to let other manage your finances, you’ll probably be poor too. The correct solution is to learn about finances and get over your fear. It doesn’t hurt have other help you take care of your money but to have other take care of your money, that’s a different situation.
BTW, this list nails it. It doesn’t cover the exceptions, but it does a pretty good job nailing the vast majority.
February 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM #759747CoronitaParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]2 and 4 don’t make sense together. If one is “financially afraid” and wants to learn about how to invest their money, they would do well to use “qualified and vetted” professionals to help them invest properly. It’s not a sin to not know but it’s probably a sin to do nothing and thus make nothing due to fear (assuming growing your nest egg is important to you).
[/quote]Lol… You mean like Madoff?
Come on BG… You know very well, the best way for an average person to screw oneself is to hand over one’s finances to a “money manager” and be hands off…Because if you ever bothered to go to one of those money manager’s sell jobs (free dinner, free activity, blah blah blah), you would realize a “qualified” and “vetted” professional money managers really don’t exist if you yourself are clueless.
The only time “advisors” might work is if you pay them for advice, but ultimately the trigger finger is still you, you’re moves and your decisions, which still requires you to understand, research, weigh risk/reward, and make a decision. And unfortunately, if you’re always risk adverse and never pull the trigger, there’s no point in paying for advice that you won’t use…. If you don’t understand how to invest, turning the keys completely over to a money manager isn’t gonna help you get there any faster. In a lot of ways, it can be a lot worse.
The only time money managers might be helpful is someone completely financially irresponsible..But chances are, those folks have nothing worth managing π
February 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM #759748SK in CVParticipant[quote=flu]
The only time money managers might be helpful is someone completely financially irresponsible..But chances are, those folks have nothing worth managing :)[/quote]I think maybe our host on this blog might have a different opinion.
February 19, 2013 at 9:41 AM #759749CoronitaParticipant[quote=SK in CV][quote=flu]
The only time money managers might be helpful is someone completely financially irresponsible..But chances are, those folks have nothing worth managing :)[/quote]I think maybe our host on this blog might have a different opinion.[/quote]
He’s different.
February 19, 2013 at 9:43 AM #759750anParticipant[quote=SK in CV][quote=flu]
The only time money managers might be helpful is someone completely financially irresponsible..But chances are, those folks have nothing worth managing :)[/quote]I think maybe our host on this blog might have a different opinion.[/quote]
Exception or the rule? How many can consistently say they beat the market?February 19, 2013 at 9:44 AM #759751SK in CVParticipant[quote=flu][quote=SK in CV][quote=flu]
The only time money managers might be helpful is someone completely financially irresponsible..But chances are, those folks have nothing worth managing :)[/quote]I think maybe our host on this blog might have a different opinion.[/quote]
He’s different.[/quote]
Nice save.
February 19, 2013 at 9:51 AM #759752CoronitaParticipant[quote=SK in CV][quote=flu][quote=SK in CV][quote=flu]
The only time money managers might be helpful is someone completely financially irresponsible..But chances are, those folks have nothing worth managing :)[/quote]I think maybe our host on this blog might have a different opinion.[/quote]
He’s different.[/quote]
Nice save.[/quote]
What?
He’s different.
There’s a difference between getting advice (and paying for it) and being ignorant/risk adverse and turning the kingdom over to someone completely.
And a majority of money managers available to average joe do not have your best interest in mind.
You’re just full of nit picking aren’t you SK? π
You know what. Forget it.. I take back what I say. I’m wrong. Most money managers for average joe are great at what they do. I think everyone should turn there money over to a complete stranger, completely count on them, never try to understand what they are getting themselves into, listen to whatever money manager says as 100% accurate..And in the unlikely scenario that the investment/speculation blows up, call up our government and ask for a bailout…Seems to work for real estate.
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