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May 7, 2009 at 5:12 PM #395377May 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM #394726
Oxford
ParticipantJust spoke with GF. She reminded me that he said he watered the avocado trees and landscape alot so that might be it. Re-doing the landscape should fix that.
We saw signs in the area for 25 avocados for $5 so screw the trees and let nature reclaim the yard.
ox
…or pay $50 each for homegrown avocadosMay 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM #394980ParticipantJust spoke with GF. She reminded me that he said he watered the avocado trees and landscape alot so that might be it. Re-doing the landscape should fix that.
We saw signs in the area for 25 avocados for $5 so screw the trees and let nature reclaim the yard.
ox
…or pay $50 each for homegrown avocadosMay 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM #395199ParticipantJust spoke with GF. She reminded me that he said he watered the avocado trees and landscape alot so that might be it. Re-doing the landscape should fix that.
We saw signs in the area for 25 avocados for $5 so screw the trees and let nature reclaim the yard.
ox
…or pay $50 each for homegrown avocadosMay 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM #395252ParticipantJust spoke with GF. She reminded me that he said he watered the avocado trees and landscape alot so that might be it. Re-doing the landscape should fix that.
We saw signs in the area for 25 avocados for $5 so screw the trees and let nature reclaim the yard.
ox
…or pay $50 each for homegrown avocadosMay 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM #395392ParticipantJust spoke with GF. She reminded me that he said he watered the avocado trees and landscape alot so that might be it. Re-doing the landscape should fix that.
We saw signs in the area for 25 avocados for $5 so screw the trees and let nature reclaim the yard.
ox
…or pay $50 each for homegrown avocadosMay 7, 2009 at 6:51 PM #394731Eugene
Participant[quote=Oxford]Just spoke with GF. She reminded me that he said he watered the avocado trees and landscape alot so that might be it. Re-doing the landscape should fix that.
We saw signs in the area for 25 avocados for $5 so screw the trees and let nature reclaim the yard.
ox
…or pay $50 each for homegrown avocados [/quote]Those avocados from “25 avocados for $5” are really small.
A mature 5-7 year old avocado tree with a canopy 20 feet in diameter requires, on average, $2 to $3 worth of water per month, using Valley Center MWD rates and depending on the elevation.
Each tree will produce 100-400 avocados per year, depending on age and conditions (proper fertilization can double the yield). Full yield may be inaccessible, because avocado trees easily grow 50-60 feet tall – good luck getting them from that height.
How many trees were there?
May 7, 2009 at 6:51 PM #394985Participant[quote=Oxford]Just spoke with GF. She reminded me that he said he watered the avocado trees and landscape alot so that might be it. Re-doing the landscape should fix that.
We saw signs in the area for 25 avocados for $5 so screw the trees and let nature reclaim the yard.
ox
…or pay $50 each for homegrown avocados [/quote]Those avocados from “25 avocados for $5” are really small.
A mature 5-7 year old avocado tree with a canopy 20 feet in diameter requires, on average, $2 to $3 worth of water per month, using Valley Center MWD rates and depending on the elevation.
Each tree will produce 100-400 avocados per year, depending on age and conditions (proper fertilization can double the yield). Full yield may be inaccessible, because avocado trees easily grow 50-60 feet tall – good luck getting them from that height.
How many trees were there?
May 7, 2009 at 6:51 PM #395204Participant[quote=Oxford]Just spoke with GF. She reminded me that he said he watered the avocado trees and landscape alot so that might be it. Re-doing the landscape should fix that.
We saw signs in the area for 25 avocados for $5 so screw the trees and let nature reclaim the yard.
ox
…or pay $50 each for homegrown avocados [/quote]Those avocados from “25 avocados for $5” are really small.
A mature 5-7 year old avocado tree with a canopy 20 feet in diameter requires, on average, $2 to $3 worth of water per month, using Valley Center MWD rates and depending on the elevation.
Each tree will produce 100-400 avocados per year, depending on age and conditions (proper fertilization can double the yield). Full yield may be inaccessible, because avocado trees easily grow 50-60 feet tall – good luck getting them from that height.
How many trees were there?
May 7, 2009 at 6:51 PM #395257Participant[quote=Oxford]Just spoke with GF. She reminded me that he said he watered the avocado trees and landscape alot so that might be it. Re-doing the landscape should fix that.
We saw signs in the area for 25 avocados for $5 so screw the trees and let nature reclaim the yard.
ox
…or pay $50 each for homegrown avocados [/quote]Those avocados from “25 avocados for $5” are really small.
A mature 5-7 year old avocado tree with a canopy 20 feet in diameter requires, on average, $2 to $3 worth of water per month, using Valley Center MWD rates and depending on the elevation.
Each tree will produce 100-400 avocados per year, depending on age and conditions (proper fertilization can double the yield). Full yield may be inaccessible, because avocado trees easily grow 50-60 feet tall – good luck getting them from that height.
How many trees were there?
May 7, 2009 at 6:51 PM #395398Participant[quote=Oxford]Just spoke with GF. She reminded me that he said he watered the avocado trees and landscape alot so that might be it. Re-doing the landscape should fix that.
We saw signs in the area for 25 avocados for $5 so screw the trees and let nature reclaim the yard.
ox
…or pay $50 each for homegrown avocados [/quote]Those avocados from “25 avocados for $5” are really small.
A mature 5-7 year old avocado tree with a canopy 20 feet in diameter requires, on average, $2 to $3 worth of water per month, using Valley Center MWD rates and depending on the elevation.
Each tree will produce 100-400 avocados per year, depending on age and conditions (proper fertilization can double the yield). Full yield may be inaccessible, because avocado trees easily grow 50-60 feet tall – good luck getting them from that height.
How many trees were there?
May 8, 2009 at 12:15 AM #394849temeculaguy
ParticipantIt’s probably the water, there is nothing screwier than water law. I took an entire class in college on riparian water rights and while i never quite understood it, it’s completely unique from other utilities. Some areas have very high water rates, sometimes multiples of other places nearby. Sometimes it’s about being at the end of the line so to speak, or far from a supply that they do not own. Intermediate water districts that buy their water also sell it to the next town and the proceeds lower their town’s bill because of the laws that regulate profit, but the guy at the end gets screwed. His district isn’t profitting more, they just pay more because they are subsidizing everyone along the way from the source, as the water becomes more scarce, his price will rise even higher in comparison. If he had enough trees to become an actual farm, their rates are entirely different, in some districts, ag users can pay a fraction of residential rates. With gas and electric, there aren’t as severe of swings in rates. Places that are elevated and far from water get to pay all the middle men and then the delivery charge. Electric price per kw is fairly stable from town to town as is gas or propane but water can have much more variance by area.
This is why in places with insane water rates, many people have wells. Unfortunately, from parcel to parcel, the ability to have a well can also vary and it is used as a selling point if it has a good well, if it doesn’t, it is worth far less.
May 8, 2009 at 12:15 AM #395101ParticipantIt’s probably the water, there is nothing screwier than water law. I took an entire class in college on riparian water rights and while i never quite understood it, it’s completely unique from other utilities. Some areas have very high water rates, sometimes multiples of other places nearby. Sometimes it’s about being at the end of the line so to speak, or far from a supply that they do not own. Intermediate water districts that buy their water also sell it to the next town and the proceeds lower their town’s bill because of the laws that regulate profit, but the guy at the end gets screwed. His district isn’t profitting more, they just pay more because they are subsidizing everyone along the way from the source, as the water becomes more scarce, his price will rise even higher in comparison. If he had enough trees to become an actual farm, their rates are entirely different, in some districts, ag users can pay a fraction of residential rates. With gas and electric, there aren’t as severe of swings in rates. Places that are elevated and far from water get to pay all the middle men and then the delivery charge. Electric price per kw is fairly stable from town to town as is gas or propane but water can have much more variance by area.
This is why in places with insane water rates, many people have wells. Unfortunately, from parcel to parcel, the ability to have a well can also vary and it is used as a selling point if it has a good well, if it doesn’t, it is worth far less.
May 8, 2009 at 12:15 AM #395320ParticipantIt’s probably the water, there is nothing screwier than water law. I took an entire class in college on riparian water rights and while i never quite understood it, it’s completely unique from other utilities. Some areas have very high water rates, sometimes multiples of other places nearby. Sometimes it’s about being at the end of the line so to speak, or far from a supply that they do not own. Intermediate water districts that buy their water also sell it to the next town and the proceeds lower their town’s bill because of the laws that regulate profit, but the guy at the end gets screwed. His district isn’t profitting more, they just pay more because they are subsidizing everyone along the way from the source, as the water becomes more scarce, his price will rise even higher in comparison. If he had enough trees to become an actual farm, their rates are entirely different, in some districts, ag users can pay a fraction of residential rates. With gas and electric, there aren’t as severe of swings in rates. Places that are elevated and far from water get to pay all the middle men and then the delivery charge. Electric price per kw is fairly stable from town to town as is gas or propane but water can have much more variance by area.
This is why in places with insane water rates, many people have wells. Unfortunately, from parcel to parcel, the ability to have a well can also vary and it is used as a selling point if it has a good well, if it doesn’t, it is worth far less.
May 8, 2009 at 12:15 AM #395373ParticipantIt’s probably the water, there is nothing screwier than water law. I took an entire class in college on riparian water rights and while i never quite understood it, it’s completely unique from other utilities. Some areas have very high water rates, sometimes multiples of other places nearby. Sometimes it’s about being at the end of the line so to speak, or far from a supply that they do not own. Intermediate water districts that buy their water also sell it to the next town and the proceeds lower their town’s bill because of the laws that regulate profit, but the guy at the end gets screwed. His district isn’t profitting more, they just pay more because they are subsidizing everyone along the way from the source, as the water becomes more scarce, his price will rise even higher in comparison. If he had enough trees to become an actual farm, their rates are entirely different, in some districts, ag users can pay a fraction of residential rates. With gas and electric, there aren’t as severe of swings in rates. Places that are elevated and far from water get to pay all the middle men and then the delivery charge. Electric price per kw is fairly stable from town to town as is gas or propane but water can have much more variance by area.
This is why in places with insane water rates, many people have wells. Unfortunately, from parcel to parcel, the ability to have a well can also vary and it is used as a selling point if it has a good well, if it doesn’t, it is worth far less.
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