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Either way, a finger to the ruling class is likely preferred to chopped heads, by plebs and patricians alike.[/quote]
The conservatives are losing control of their bases.
The business elites are now losing money because they used and enabled the pitchfork peasants.[/quote]
If you intentionally make people angry and afraid, you shouldn’t expect yourself to be able to predict the outcome of their anger and fear. Especially over a long period of time. Conservatives in this country have been stoking anger and fear for decades, and they got drumpf out of the deal. I’m not sure what’s been going on in the UK, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it were basically the same thing over there (with brexit the result instead of drumpf).[/quote]
And although I hate Trump, whatever the liberals have done has resulted in Hillary as their candidate – which I don’t think is much to be proud of.
I spent a summer at the University of Warwick in England back in the late 80s. It’s a relatively new university with a very good reputation and has an emphasis on science. While I was there I was shocked at the very open expressions of prejudice delivered without a hint of embarrassment against people from India and Pakistan. As one girl said to me “They (meaning the English who were of Northern European heritage) don’t socialize with us.” And when I looked around I saw she was right. It was ironic because when I told people I was from Detroit they immediately started talking about the race problems. But I never saw the openly derogatory attitudes in Detroit that I did at Warwick.
That was 25 years ago in the Midlands (an area that delivered a strong vote to leave). You can’t blame Trump for that one – sorry. People severely underestimate the nationalism present in European countries.
