[quote=zk][quote=desmond]
This is what I saw coming, the gun control crowd starts bashing the gun owners. Instead of real solutions they just show their hatred of the people that own guns. Finally after so much “LMC” inspired hogwash the gun owners just get sick of it and say no. Gun sales skyrocket the pushback will be harder and the gun control crowd will continue to name call. I was thinking some controls, even though they would not work, would be okay, no large clips, but not anymore, forget it.[/quote]
I just read all of KIBU’s posts on this thread. I didn’t see him call anyone a name. And then we have this:
[quote=Paul0373]Hey KIBU, get out of my face with all of your Gun Control Garbage. You know what? I’ve never felt the need to own a personal firearm until you self-righteous, Constitution hating Communists decided to start going after yet another personal liberty. Listen to Feinstein, Cuomo, Emanuel, Obama… and yourself.. You all make me ill. If I want to own 50 ARs and a million rounds of ammunition, that’s my business bud. If you’re so naive to think that this government is disarming us for our good while they(feinstein) have concealed carry permits and armed guards(all of them), you are a naive fool. Please, crawl in a hole until you have enough votes to amend the Constitution and until then I’d be happy to buy you an NRA membership and take you to the range for some target practice.[/quote]
If Paul’s response is to KIBU, which it certainly appears to be, then Paul’s problem isn’t that he’s fed up with name calling.
There’s been plenty of reasonable discussion on this board for stronger gun control. But that all appears to have been ignored. If all Paul has no response to this except to say is that we’re “self-righteous, Constitution hating Communists” and “naive fool[s],” we “make [him] ill” and that we should “crawl in a hole,” then perhaps the problem isn’t our “LMC inspired hogwash.” Perhaps the problem is the Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage/NRA-inspired, foaming-at-the-mouth, reasonless ranting of angry people like Paul.
You (desmond) say that we’ve bashed gun owners and offered no real solutions. That’s only true if you automatically disagree with all the solutions we have to offer. Let me ask you this: What solutions might we offer that you would consider “real”? Or are there none? If, in your opinion, there are none, then your accusation that we’re offering no real solutions doesn’t really fly.
Did you see Paul offering any solutions to the thousands of gun deaths we have in this country every year? No? Then how come you’re accusing the gun-control side of not offering solutions, but not the anti-gun-control side?
I don’t see how you read Paul’s post and come away with the conclusion that the gun-control side is the one not offering solutions.[/quote]
The problem with all of the “reasonable solutions” is that NONE of them will do anything to fix the problem. You will simply make it more difficult for responsible gun owners to buy guns and ammo. It seems really silly to me to think that someone who has the intention to go on a shooting spree is going to give a rat’s ass about some gun control law. If the threat of being charged with murder and possible death penalty is not enough, then what is?
Paul’s rant may be on the extreme right side of the issue, but you know what? He’ll most likely never fire any one of the weapons he owns at another person. The “Guntards” that have been mentioned aren’t the f’n problem. Why can you guys not see that?