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We need to stay the hell out of other people’s countries
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[quote=CA renter]
We owe these refugees safe zones in their own countries, and we have the obligation to pay whatever it takes to have a sufficient enough military presence to protect them within these zones. [/quote]
How do you reconcile these two ideas?[/quote]
Easy. One is the result of the other (and context matters…if you had read my posts in their entirety, the answer would be obvious).
I am totally opposed to invading other countries in an attempt to forcibly “open markets,” or extract resources, or overturn fairly popular and effective leaders, etc. This is almost always what we are doing when we go into other countries. Sure, our leaders try to provide cover by constructing some story about how we are “liberating” some particular group or getting rid of “dictators,” etc.; but the truth is that we are almost always in other countries because our military exists to serve and protect corporate interests.
But the refugees that I was referring to above **already exist** because of our meddling and disastrous actions. As a result, we owe it to them to try to repair what we have damaged as best as possible. And we owe the innocent civilians protection for as long as necessary. While we are doing this, we should take absolutely no action to establish a “Western-friendly” government, or to benefit any Western corporations or interests of any kind. All of our actions should be decided by the will of the local people; and nothing we do should be for our own benefit or the benefit of any of our “allies.”
Ultimately, the goal is to avoid creating refugees to begin with. That’s why I support a fairly isolationist military agenda (and fair, not “free,” trade).