[quote=zk][quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=zk][quote=flyer]I find it amusing that “nonbelievers” think their opinion is more valid than “believers.”
[/quote]
Not more valid necessarily, but definitely more rational.[/quote]
zk: So, you’re arguing AGAINST dogmatism, by USING dogmatism?[/quote]
No. I’m not saying that my position is incontrovertibly true (dogmatism).
I’m saying that my position is rational. Completely different from incontrovertibly true.
Rational means based on or in accordance with reason or logic. I have used reason and logic to arrive at my conclusion. Faith, by definition, does not use these things to reach a conclusion.[/quote]
zk: In a previous post, you asserted that ALL religions were a “fantasy”. Not SOME or CERTAIN, but ALL. That’s a dogmatic assertion. Interestingly, as someone who believes in empiricism and observable phenomena, that’s a position you cannot PROVE.
Here’s the point I was trying to make: Faith and Reason are not incompatible. You referenced astronomy (spherical Earth) and microbiology (bacteria) in a previous post. Some of the greatest research in those areas has been performed by people of faith. Did their faith or beliefs get in the way of their research? It doesn’t appear so. If you were to remove the body of work from just the Catholic scientists, researchers, doctors, etc, you would take away a staggering amount from science.
Saint Thomas Aquinas was one of the first contributors and proponents of the scientific method used extensively to this day. One can hold Faith and Reason with equal ease, was my point.