Thanks flu, but my tastes are odd and I would like to avoid anything new. I refuse to drop 50k on a car that I will drive 3-5k miles a year tops. I like the M35/37, 3 years old they are 25k but they just look like a fancy maxima/camry/accord to me. One thing to realize is that my purchase is not for transportation reasons, it has to be fun and it needs to be an ass magnet. At least the G35/37 looks unique, unfortunately they just came out with a convertible so there aren’t any 2-4 year old used ones out there. Mustangs do nothing for me. I can put off the purchase for a year if I need to, I may do just that and hope the g37 ragtop falls in value, there are some 2009’s out there starting to sell for between 38-40k with under 10k miles on them. Used cars seem to fall in price at different ages based on model, but it almost always takes 2 years at least for the lease returns to start showing up. I’ll probably just bite the bullet and get the 6 series but after your suggestion I’m finding some 911 cabrios about 5-8 years old with very few miles on them for about 30k, I might go that way and make it my new hobby learning how to fix it myself. Thanks for the advice flu.