[quote=temeculaguy] I had to go to L.A. today, albeit it was raining but it took me 3 hours and 45 minutes to go 65 miles.
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If I remember right you were about to retire soon TG.
The good thing about being retired is you are generally in no rush to go anywhere and you can mostly choose to drive not in rush hours. the biggest issue my mother has with crowds and traffic is when she goes to Costco.