[quote=ocrenter][quote=CA renter][quote=Jazzman]I don’t think “will” or lack of it has anything to do with mass slayings. If anything, the reserve could be argued. Hitler an Stalin spring to mind. Many simple cultures don’t exercise “will” in the cultural sense referred to, and yet don’t suffer the same cultural ills. I also don’t believe making guns too expensive would be a practical solution. You may as well just ban guns, if you are going to do that. The focus should be on an immediate solution to prevent callous killings. Gun control is as clear cut as any solution to address that problem. Apparently, 90% of Americans believe that to be the case. Yet, the legislation that was to bring about greater gun control failed. So whatever you think is the problem or likely solution, you are possibly going to be denied the means do deal with it, if your detractors are more powerful than you. I think that is a concern and needs to be addressed before philosophizing.[/quote]
Gun control, or gun bans? If they require registration for all guns, how long until they are knocking at everyone’s door because the “powers that be” decide to ban guns, altogether? I’d give it 5-10 years, at most. Nobody in established power likes the unwashed masses to be armed.
And who makes up this 90% when 60% of the population is armed? That only counts those who are willing to admit to gun ownership (I’m willing to bet the number is quite a bit higher).
Can you imagine the massive undertaking it would take to force, like you said, 60% of the country to give up their guns?
You just essentially gave the reason why the “powers.to be” would not dare removing and banning guns.
You also just provided the underlying Psyche as to why there is such resistance to any gun regulation, because there is a huge and unrealistic fear about the formation of a police state.
Again, if the narrative is this:
That ALL gun control equal LOSS of liberty.
Then the sporadic but continued loss of innocent lives IS justified as the price to pay for that liberty.
It is almost like the Aztec sacrifice of young virgins to please their Gods. It was justified as the price to pay inin order for the sun to return the next day.[/quote]
Right, which is why they want to do it piecemeal. First, they enact more “modest” gun control laws like restrictions on types of weapons allowed, and registration — neither of which, BTW, would stop or reduce violence or homicides — because the PTB could begin tracking the movement of weapons. They would have gun buybacks and other programs that would somewhat reduce the number of guns, and gradually, they would get us to a point where we feel that the govt would have the right to know the weapon status of every single citizen and resident in the U.S.
Once they know the weapons status and everything else about us (and they are making HUGE strides in data aggregation on U.S. citizens), then they can go in for the final kill: full confiscation of all weapons that can be used by a resistance or revolutionary movement.
If you can watch what’s been happening over the past few decades (especially as it relates to privacy, data mining and aggregation, laws regarding “domestic terrorism,” etc.) and still feel that the Second Amendment is some how ridiculous or anachronistic, then you’re either naive and/or not paying attention.