[quote=livinincali]
I don’t think Obama hates America. I think he’d like to see America become more socialist federally controlled country. He might hate certain aspects of our constitution, the 2nd amendment comes to mind. He might like to see the 1st and 4th more limited. That’s probably where the Obama hates American rhetoric is coming from.
He hasn’t been all that effective at bringing the country together. It’s much more divided now than it was when he was elected. I think America is just sick and tired of the bought and paid for politician. He epitomizes that person and if there were a republican in the presidents role it would probably be similar rhetoric from the Democrats. I.e. Romney hates America because he sells it out to business special interests.
The political rhetoric always gets bad before an election. We got people here comparing Trump to Hilter and he’s a populist racist that’s going to set the country back 50 years in civil rights. I don’t know that Trump’s ever done anything in business that supports that view and talking negatively about illegal immigration doesn’t seem to justify that fear. He doesn’t have a track record in political office so it’s a bit of an unknown. Certainly some of his supporters would like to see that happen, but I don’t think most of them do.
I think the 2 most important issues for this country are fixing the costs associated with health care/education and re-establishing the rule of law (No more we’re above the law for businesses and special interests). Both of those involve standing up to the special interests and their large campaign contributions. I think Sanders and Trump would be the most effective at doing that. I don’t have a lot of faith in Clinton or the establishment republicans doing that.[/quote]
I agree with the above post…I think from what I have read/seen, Obama has used racial comments in general to make race as a problem and a thing to divide the country. That has been something I have read/heard from even non-right wing nuts. This probably feeds into them then taking that and saying he hates America…
Also, I think every economic study has shown that the black people haven’t improved a wee bit anything since he was elected…Probably just another politician…or politics as usual.
flu, you mistake my Trump comments as someone who supports him. My disagreement is that I don’t think he’s insane and he knows that there is a huge segment of the party very disenfranchised with the whole thing and he knows how to tap that.
He could be racist, problem is maybe unlike you, I also think I’m probably racist too, at least to a certain degree. Problem is I actually think everyone is racist to a point. Some may not make negative comments or what not in public, but I even have family members that married someone else get tons of negative comments (black/muslim, white spouse’s parents making disparaging Asian remarks, etc…).
I suppose this is why Japan doesn’t have immigration. It’s one benefit (and problem) they don’t have to deal with…
As for Trump being president and starting to kill off or persecute everyone who isn’t white, even if he wanted to do that, I don’t think that will happen…maybe you do or at least put limits on anyone who isn’t white. If that were to occur, maybe we’d end up with another Civil war at that point.
I do agree with the above post that a lot of the Trump supporters are just out to look for anyone who isn’t establishment (special interest). Heck, Taylor Swift can run and she’d probably win (at least she’s pleasing to look at). People simply don’t care and maybe they are naïve to think that, with him thumb on nukes, but that’s where things are at. The people in political power are viewed very negatively (and they do have hand son nukes) and a lot of the Trump fans just want them all out.
I do believe that if there was say, a real world war with China, even if you aren’t from China, any Chinese or any Asian person is going to be in a world of hurt, even citizens or people born here. It’s just the nature of the situation and at the end of the day, if the shit is bad enough, I wouldn’t be surprised to see internment camps again.
It is a sad state in America (and tons of other countries) dealing with this now…
See all the corruption out in Brazil? Olympics there are dead (no one is going) with Zika and they are trying to impeach their current leader…
