Have you actually looked at some of the stuff the skeptics have produced. This guy went back into old studies and shows how newer studies actually lower the past temperatures to make if look like there’s a larger warming tend then there really is. The past temperatures didn’t change. There’s no reason to adjust them unless you are trying to make you CO2 model work out when it isn’t working out.
You keep pointing to individuals who have done unsubstantiated work. And, in this case, one with an obvious political agenda. Why is that? Is it because virtually all the substantiated, peer-reviewed work supports the hypothesis that man is causing global warming?
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Climate change/global warming is becoming a religion or belief system. Not believing in climate change is blasphemous.
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This stuff is right out of the right-wing noise machine playbook. It’s designed to manipulate you. It appears to have worked.
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I want real science not people with agendas screwing with the data to fit their models to keep the grant money rolling in.
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I’m going to have to call B.S. on you saying you want real science. If you want “real science,” you don’t go to a webpage with a clear political agenda for that science. (realclimatescience.com) There’s tons of real science out there. The only “science” you’re focusing on is individuals who clearly have an agenda and, therefore, aren’t doing real science.
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The bottom line is there’s a huge economic investment that has to happen to do any of this and in most cases it will hit the lower middle class and poorest the worst. A new car payment, a new gas tax, higher electricity prices all hit them harder than it would hit me or you.
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First of all, if we’re concerned about “real science,” this has nothing to do with anything. Secondly, to use concern for poor people as a reason to sell the idea that climate change is bogus is highly disingenuous. Basically, the people trying to deny climate change are the same people who regularly show a complete lack of concern for poor people.
