It is called insurance for a reason. It is health insurance, not health care. Like Immigration, there is room for reform, but the pork packed bill is going to be a time bomb if it passes. Not only that, there are some people whether they are very wealthy or very healthy and young, who forego health insurance because they do not use it. Why should they pay for other people? We already have a safety net for indigents and TG knows this is not about health care reform, it is just another big government power grab. No takers on the children limit? Does that mean even the libs understand when there is too much government? Maybe there should be a parenting test? We test drivers, why not parents? It might cut down on the prison population. That would be a good thing.