[quote=FlyerInHi]ocrenter, lets say you are right. If people are fleeing China, does it not follow that China will implode on its own like the Soviet Union?
Do you believe that Trump’s trade war is about “freedom” or “human rights”? It’s about forcing Xi to abandon China 2025; you know, social engineering that cannot possibly work.[/quote]
People are not fleeing China. RICH people are fleeing China. As for China imploding. That’s hard to say, but the fear of imploding may have been the reason for the tightening grip since Xi came on board. Trump’s trade war has nothing to do with freedom or human rights, he doesn’t care about that. The trade war is because China is trying to challenge the US’s Unipolar world.
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Everything that China has done and is doing has been tried before. You have to recognize China’s successes where other countries have failed at the same things.
Like the NYT story says, we, the West, are still waiting for China to fail.[/quote]
Reason for China’s success is you had Taiwan/HK exporting their know-how, Japan’s ongoing investment and contribution, and the US keeping its market open for Chinese exports. Interestingly ALL 3 major players that led to China’s success are routinely vilified within China.
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About the Singapore model, it’s not about copying a city State.
Lee Kuan Yew Singapore with “Asian values” regardless of ideology.
China is doing “Capitalism with Chinese characteristics”. Capitalism in this case not meaning totally private ownership or initiative, but using capital/money to achieve development goals. It’s the logical continuation of “to get rich is glorious.” The “freedom” and “democracy” we cherish in the West are secondary to money and wealth in Asia, at least until they catch up to the West. I think they are correct because money is freedom.[/quote]
This Asian Values BS is ridiculous. This is essentially a stereotype that justifies the withholding of civil liberties to 1/5 of humanity.
Asian societies such as Japan and S.Korea and Taiwan are thriving with democratic values, yet a totalitarian city state half the size of LA keep getting brought up as the ultimate case for Asian Value. WHY??? Because it fits the narrative of China. And meanwhile a model that is working well for 200 million Asians are tossed off to the side, once again, because China finds that model to be inconvenient. But China apologists like yourself will continue to push the Singapore model, and completely ignore the Taiwan model, the S.Korea model, or the Japan model. Taiwan and S.Korea and Japan proved they can get rich, be glorious, and still have civil liberty and freedom. Try looking into that, will you?
